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#1017245 - 01/06/11 10:19 PM New Forum Opportunities - Request them here  
4x4Wire  Offline

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Another thread has evolved into potential new forum opportunities on 4x4Wire.

I am open to additional topics being established for forums where thoughts and ideas about a specific topic of interest can be shared without getting buried in other topics.

Please use this thread to request new forum topics of interest.

I do request that new topics have a relation to motor vehicles and/or recreation opportunities.


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#1017246 - 01/07/11 04:41 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: 4x4Wire]  
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We have a tattered freebie thread in the Mistu tech section. Would something like that make a better forum? Free parts to give or needed?

Russell


1988 Mighty Max turbo 2.6 service body
1980 Power Wagon W400
Sundry Mitsubishi Montero Gen 1 parts
Parts vehicles: 1980 D50 2wd, 1988 Mighty Max 4wd, 89 LS Montero 4-door, 2002 Sport AWD
For Sale: 1989 Power Ram 50 extended cab

#1017247 - 01/07/11 06:33 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: rxinhed]  
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That would be a good candidate for adding to the Part Bin section...


#1017248 - 01/07/11 12:17 PM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: 4x4Wire]  
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firearms/gun section perhaps?


leo d.

90 4runner, v6, auto, WCOR CitB kit,
marlin duals, arb rear, tt front
4.88, blah, blah, blah...

Pres. of TEAM IFS! and
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#1017249 - 01/07/11 01:08 PM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: ldivinag]  
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A free parts bin would be great, set up as a classifieds section.

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firearms/gun section perhaps?


That would be cool too. Include knives?

A forum about Reuben? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Sorry, I couldn't resist <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


'97 Montero 'LSR' - 4.6 gears & factory rear locker, 33" Procomp muds on 15x8 steelies, 50mm coil spacers, T-bar crank, Airlift, sans rear sway, 50mm rear frame & fuel tank lift, Aisins, ARB front bumper + 10k lb winch, 50mm DIY body lift, rock sliders, cut rear quarter panels...

#1017250 - 01/08/11 06:59 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: Mad_Scientist]  
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A free parts bin would be great, set up as a classifieds section.

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firearms/gun section perhaps?


That would be cool too. Include knives?

A forum about Reuben? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Sorry, I couldn't resist <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


Relates to

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...I do request that new topics have a relation to motor vehicles and/or recreation opportunities


There are plenty of gun/weapon forums, not really needed here.

It would be like me asking for a yacht section because I use my 4X4 to tow a yacht, or a chess section because I use my 4X4 to drive through the snow to get to chess tournaments.

Quite simply not 4X4 related.
Try to keep it relevant.


2002 Sporty , Ironman 2.5" spring, 2" body, 15 x 7 ROH wheels, K&N, 15 x 10.5 Simex Centipedes, Powerchip 91.

"Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level then beat you with experience!"

#1017251 - 01/08/11 09:14 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: DamKia]  
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Forums that don't expand will eventually hit a peak of users and then its a slow decline. Adding a gun section would not make the 4x4wire suddenly become the "4X4WIRE SPONSORED BY KELTEC" (although that would be an added bonus to expand sponsorship opportunities). I don't hunt but I am sure alot of the hunters here do use the 4x4s to get to the hunting cabin or tree stand area. I also think a watersports (lol) forum would be not too far off since I know I take the old access roads down to the swimming holes I went to as a kid. So yea, ideas should not be dismissed over a single persons view against something.


Richard E
1989 Montero - Stock-ish
1989 V6 Auto Raider - 5.3 Vortech Swap.
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6t, soon to be 3.5
1983 Honda XL600R

#1017252 - 01/08/11 08:06 PM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: StockRaider]  
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So yea, ideas should not be dismissed over a single persons view against something.


OK then let's make it two. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I agree we don't need a gun forum. Isn't the what the "Off-Topic chat" forum for?

Just my two cents.


Michael j

TreadLightly! Trainer

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GrassCat II, 1998 Gen 2.5 Locked and loaded. Ran off with Hector.

GrassCat I, 1991 Gen 1 Ran off with Justice.

#1017253 - 01/08/11 11:56 PM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: Grasscat]  
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I will vote for a gun forum. Most of the current thread on Hunting Rifle Mission Creep was really Frank and I.

I understand and respect that many people are interested or are even opposed to the topic.

I don't think that it is any different than the forum on radio communication. There are very limited number of people who have ever participated in that forum.


Jim Paget
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#1017254 - 01/09/11 12:52 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: Jim_Paget]  
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I am supporting the idea of a gun section. I would like to see a Subaru section myself <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />. Or, since we all use computers to communicate and I see it pop up sometimes maybe have a computer section, where forum members who are more savvy (Brendan, Stony, myself and others) can advise people on either buying a new computer, or walk people through common problems.


Richard E
1989 Montero - Stock-ish
1989 V6 Auto Raider - 5.3 Vortech Swap.
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6t, soon to be 3.5
1983 Honda XL600R

#1017255 - 01/09/11 01:55 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: StockRaider]  
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I have no opinion about a gun forum, not being a consumer/use of these products. However, is this topic not already represented de facto in the "Outdoor Equipment" topic area.

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We recognize that many people use their 4WD's to get to out-of-the-way places and do things other than 'wheel. We set up this forum to discuss what we all do once we're "out there", along with discussion on gear we all use. Some suggested topics for this include:

* Camping gear
* Camp cuisine
* Clothes and boots
* Fishing gear
* Hunting, to include bows, muzzle-loaders, and rifles
* Climbing
* Mountainbiking
* Hiking
* Canoeing or kayaking
* or whatever else you do once you turn the engine off!


We hope you enjoy this new forum!

Edited by little_joe (04/04/04 09:38 PM)


I know how rabid gun supporters may be/are, as I worked at the skeet range the US Olympic team practiced at in 1984 for the Los Angeles games, and therefore have experience.

What other topics? Some of the forums do not have any/many traffickers, agreed. Might these face deletion? The Nissan/Rover/International forums are the three particulars I'm thinking of.


1988 Mighty Max turbo 2.6 service body
1980 Power Wagon W400
Sundry Mitsubishi Montero Gen 1 parts
Parts vehicles: 1980 D50 2wd, 1988 Mighty Max 4wd, 89 LS Montero 4-door, 2002 Sport AWD
For Sale: 1989 Power Ram 50 extended cab

#1017256 - 01/09/11 04:46 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: rxinhed]  
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How about a "my woman is a pain in the ass forum?"
<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
I'd have plenty to offer in that sucker.

Just kidding. I love her (crazy or not) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


#1017257 - 01/09/11 05:17 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: stony-man]  
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How about a "my woman is a pain in the ass forum?"
<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
I'd have plenty to offer in that sucker.

Just kidding. I love her (crazy or not) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Seriously bad move.

The last thing we want to do is "cross pollinate" ideas for them.

On a serious note, how about a "Men's health/Men's stuff" forum? I know it is not in the "line of fire" for what was asked, but we have had one on Outerlimits4x4 as a thread that has allowed people to learn a bit about aging, mental health/depression ("R U OK?"), diabetes, cancer, "waterworks" issues, and various other conditions, or to just chat with the big expectation that there are no foolish/toolish answers. The whole thread started as a result of about 3 suicides over a period of 6 months of our members (we're not that bad....really <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />).

Not being sexist or anything, but women do open up more freely to each other than men do with men, and sometimes the "anonymity" of hiding behind a keyboard works for us guys.


2002 Sporty , Ironman 2.5" spring, 2" body, 15 x 7 ROH wheels, K&N, 15 x 10.5 Simex Centipedes, Powerchip 91.

"Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level then beat you with experience!"

#1017258 - 01/09/11 05:52 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: rxinhed]  
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What other topics? Some of the forums do not have any/many traffickers, agreed. Might these face deletion? The Nissan/Rover/International forums are the three particulars I'm thinking of.

There was mention of expanding to include new topics and yes, there are some dormant topics.

Which is why I posed the question...

I am not going to delete any of the older/little used forums. I am considering an order change to bring them into a smaller area.

In the process, I will add topics of interest that will potentially attract (and keep) visitors.

After all, traffic generates revenue which pays to keep the site on line.


#1017259 - 01/09/11 06:07 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: DamKia]  
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I would actually suggest not adding a new forum topic and in fact consolidating existing forums.

I think the more forums that are added, the more separated people get and forums that certain people tend to want to visit, start to die out from lack of participation and then a vicious circle begins as people leave the website due to lack of participation and forum activity.

A new vehicle section, like Subaru, might actually make some sense, because thereís potential to attract new visitors, but if existing forums are watered down further, like the off topic section, readers will be further divided and forum participation will decrease and eventually die off.

Iím a believer in as few forums per website as possible, keeping in mind that the VAST majority of viewers do not click on all forums and forums that get the most viewers and participation, often increase in popularity and increase readers exponentially, just as failing forums lose popularity and readership as they get less and less participation.

Many people who use certain forums as their own personal clubs, and especially want to narrow the topic range to only what they want to discuss, may disagree with forum consolidation, but if I was the webmaster, the goal would be increasing readership and popularity, not maintaining a personal clubhouse for a half dozen people who do nothing significant to pay the website bills.

My suggestion would be to consolidate all of the vehicle forums into a single section or may be two at the most plus an archive, if needed. And consolidate the off topic back into one section and some of the other sections as well.

This will increase participation in each of those forums. Increased readers will build on itself and the forums are increasingly linked too and visited by new readers as an active forum.


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#1017260 - 01/09/11 08:18 PM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: Brian894X4]  
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I would actually suggest not adding a new forum topic and in fact consolidating existing forums. I think the more forums that are added, the more separated people get and forums that certain people tend to want to visit, start to die out from lack of participation and then a vicious circle begins as people leave the website due to lack of participation and forum activity.


This is a good point. I also follow the boards on Pirate, Power Wagon Advertiser, and Ramcharger Central. I peruse these boards to sell and trade parts, pick things up, and similar along my lines of interest. The comment about using a particular board as a 'club' is appropriate and I have to admit this pitfall holds for me to a great degree. I like to think that I am versed in my automotive interests, but have settled in to a few marques. The settling I would attribute to: 1. what I have available in the yard, 2. what I can afford to own and learn about, and 3. not having local friends with interests similar/slightly different.

My questions about consolidation would be: which topics, which marques? The tech boards as current may not handle compression too well, for example.

I really am enjoying this discussion, BTW. Cathartic and expressive.
R-


1988 Mighty Max turbo 2.6 service body
1980 Power Wagon W400
Sundry Mitsubishi Montero Gen 1 parts
Parts vehicles: 1980 D50 2wd, 1988 Mighty Max 4wd, 89 LS Montero 4-door, 2002 Sport AWD
For Sale: 1989 Power Ram 50 extended cab

#1017261 - 01/09/11 08:49 PM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: rxinhed]  
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I think I may have stopped breastfeeding too early...


Fasteddy's advice is occasionally sound...

#1017262 - 01/09/11 09:45 PM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: hazy_daze]  
rxinhed  Offline

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How's that? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Remember board guidelines for topic and our clean, squeakiness. I merely intoned that an open discussion of the topic at hand would lead to the bettering of our board. 'Ya know, like totally?' <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/drunk.gif" alt="" />


#1017263 - 01/09/11 11:07 PM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: rxinhed]  
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Sorry Russell. It was a random statement. First thing that came to mind. It was more directed as a response to DK about the suicides and mental health. I make random statements for comic relief in person, guess the humor gets lost in the keyboard...


Fasteddy's advice is occasionally sound...

#1017264 - 01/10/11 01:13 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: hazy_daze]  
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No problem for me. I have posted a pic that had me banned for a moment... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> I was forgiven. I am the comic relief in my surroundings, too. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />


#1017265 - 01/10/11 03:46 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: DamKia]  
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Seriously bad move.

The last thing we want to do is "cross pollinate" ideas for them.


<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> True.


#1017266 - 01/10/11 04:24 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: stony-man]  
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How bout one for homebrew mongrels that don't have a "real" make or model? Betting a few people have some weird creations they'd like to show off.


1989 Dodge Power Ram 50 w/ no engine <- rotten frame <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
1988 Power Ram 50 2.6 Long Bed
1990 Mitsubishi MightyMax V6, swapping to the Daimler-Benz OM617 3.0L I5 diesel

#1017267 - 01/10/11 05:28 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: 300D50]  
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How bout one for homebrew mongrels that don't have a "real" make or model? Betting a few people have some weird creations they'd like to show off.


Incorporate fabrication into it, ie how to do good bends, fine art/science of welding, tools discussion, etc


2002 Sporty , Ironman 2.5" spring, 2" body, 15 x 7 ROH wheels, K&N, 15 x 10.5 Simex Centipedes, Powerchip 91.

"Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level then beat you with experience!"

#1017268 - 01/10/11 05:39 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: DamKia]  
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We do have a General 4x4 and Tools n Fab sections here already.

As far as a firearms section, we do like 'em around here, and they come up from time to time, but not a lot. Personally, I'm not real keen on having the anti-gun nazis lurking around here, nevermind big brother. Frank and Jim spoke a bit about smithing, which is something a lot of us gunowners here do NOT do; that's what gun forums are for.

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#1017269 - 01/10/11 11:22 PM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: kewlynx]  
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As far as a firearms section, we do like 'em around here, and they come up from time to time, but not a lot. Personally, I'm not real keen on having the anti-gun nazis lurking around here, nevermind big brother. Frank and Jim spoke a bit about smithing, which is something a lot of us gunowners here do NOT do; that's what gun forums are for.

<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" />


In 21 months since it was initiated, there have been a total of 45 threads in the Amateur Radio Forum with a total of 245 posts. There are also lots of Amateur Radio Forums out there. I don't understand your arguement.


Jim Paget
88 YJ with a few changes

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#1017270 - 01/11/11 12:12 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: Jim_Paget]  
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Today, I think I got some insight into why I enjoy 4x4wire. In this morning's snowstorm, I was one of only two people who showed up at work.... and I was there at my usual time, well before we opened. I saw not only the benefit of having a reliable, capable vehicle, but the experience to drive it confidently and the desire to get a job done at work.

Most here are at least trying to be a little self-sufficient and/or self-reliant when it comes to DIY projects. Yes, most of them are auto-mechanical related, but not all. I suspect the qualities of self-reliance, accountability and responsibility are becoming somewhat a thing of the past.

I don't care if we have a gun forum or not - there are plenty of those forums around with a lot more knowledge and experience than is contained here. If I wanted to know how to resolve a rifle issue, I could certainly find better places to ask questions. However; the company might not be as congenial..... or might not share other similar values. Sometimes, a chat with buddies (internet or otherwise) is preferable to a bunch of knowledgeable jerks...... and sometimes it might be a chat that would interest someone in something he wouldn't normally get involved with and result in a broadening of horizons.

Internet forums are a little like life. When I was a young fella, I ran from bar to bar looking for the pretty girls. Later, I learned to conserve energy, pick a good spot and wait for them to pass by. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Frank <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


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#1017271 - 12/31/12 01:32 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: FrankR]  
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Some of the most interesting posts in the forums have been off topic. Too much focus narrows the mind too much. And narrer minded is like narrer asted, too tipsy fer comfort.


Not responsible for advice not taken...

#1017272 - 01/01/13 07:44 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: fasteddy]  
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I agree with Eddie. Too many can be as bad too few.


#1017273 - 01/01/13 09:05 AM Re: New Forum Opportunities - Request them here [Re: stony-man]  
DRX350  Offline

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I like the idea of a freebie thread, maybe a "racing/competition" thread too? :-D


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