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Re: ladies and gentlemen- we have difflock! [Re: logansportage] #1021742 03/31/11 06:06 AM
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great news- the case is made by trackfinder and is relatively cheap- 100$. it will be sent to me next week- which means that with a bit of luck i will be able to get it in 2 weeks after it will pass customs. of course i will post an install guide and a video.


2001 sporty. 4 inch lift+ body lift-front lovlells coils+extended forks. reat tj. monroe shocks. full skid plate, auxilary fan. external oil cooler. maxxis 8060 235/75 R15 tires on american racing wheels. trackfinder rear diff lock.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3948684/2001-kia-sportage
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Re: ladies and gentlemen- we have difflock! [Re: hadtomer] #1021743 04/05/11 06:09 PM
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allright- the case has arrived- i will have it installed probably next week. also- my guy in korea made all the enquiries - trackfinder currently produce aftermarket parts for most korean SUVs. they specialise in diff locks. as far as KIA goes- they make rear diff locks for the sorento. also- they make front and rear diff locks for the sporty- [color:"purple"] [/color] and extended front forks [color:"purple"] [/color] - the price for the forks is 250$. they do not manufacture transfer or axle ratios

Last edited by hadtomer; 04/05/11 06:11 PM.

2001 sporty. 4 inch lift+ body lift-front lovlells coils+extended forks. reat tj. monroe shocks. full skid plate, auxilary fan. external oil cooler. maxxis 8060 235/75 R15 tires on american racing wheels. trackfinder rear diff lock.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3948684/2001-kia-sportage
Re: ladies and gentlemen- we have difflock! [Re: hadtomer] #1021744 04/11/11 12:05 AM
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Re: ladies and gentlemen- we have difflock! [Re: Moshe_Buhboot] #1021745 04/11/11 02:04 PM
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hadtomer Offline OP
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hello buhboot- my diff lock will be installed this thursday at KIA JAFFO. i will be there to take pics. also- didnt forget your spring enquiry regarding my LOVELLS springs. my DOBINSON lift will be here in a couple of months (hope hope...). patience is a virtue.


2001 sporty. 4 inch lift+ body lift-front lovlells coils+extended forks. reat tj. monroe shocks. full skid plate, auxilary fan. external oil cooler. maxxis 8060 235/75 R15 tires on american racing wheels. trackfinder rear diff lock.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3948684/2001-kia-sportage
Re: ladies and gentlemen- we have difflock! [Re: hadtomer] #1021746 10/29/11 08:31 AM
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Hi hadtomer,

How did it go installing the differential? All's good?

Cheers,

Bogdan


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Re: ladies and gentlemen- we have difflock! [Re: BogdanS] #1021747 11/01/11 11:38 AM
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hadtomer Offline OP
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It was installed almost 6 months ago. its great.


2001 sporty. 4 inch lift+ body lift-front lovlells coils+extended forks. reat tj. monroe shocks. full skid plate, auxilary fan. external oil cooler. maxxis 8060 235/75 R15 tires on american racing wheels. trackfinder rear diff lock.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3948684/2001-kia-sportage
Re: ladies and gentlemen- we have difflock! [Re: DamKia] #1021748 02/11/12 01:39 AM
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Hi there old post i know but is not a diff lock ,its a traction device .We need locker police <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/nana.gif" alt="" />



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i would be interested in the front. the question is ur saying dif lock now are we talking spool or limited slip


Neither.

It is a Lockrite style locker

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Re: ladies and gentlemen- we have difflock! [Re: kia74] #1021749 02/11/12 08:05 AM
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hadtomer Offline OP
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NO! a traction device is a limited slip diff - mine is a fully lockable rear diff. you are ignoring the fact that diff locks can be operated-and can be automatic ---


from wikipedia:

Automatic lockers
Automatic lockers lock and unlock automatically with no direct input from the driver. Some automatic locking differential designs ensure that engine power is always transmitted to both wheels, regardless of traction conditions, and will "unlock" only when one wheel is required to spin faster than the other during cornering. They will never allow either wheel to spin slower than the differential carrier or axle as a whole, but will permit a wheel to be over-driven faster than the carrier speed. The most common example of this type would be the famous "Detroit Locker," also known as the "Detroit No-Spin," which replaces the entire differential carrier assembly. Others, sometimes referred to as "lunchbox lockers," employ the stock differential carrier and replace only the internal spider gears and shafts with interlocking plates. Both types of automatic lockers will allow for a degree of differential wheel speed while turning corners in conditions of equal traction, but will otherwise lock both axle shafts together when traction conditions demand it.
Pros: Automatic action, no driver interaction necessary, no stopping for (dis-) engagement necessary
Cons: Increased tire wear and noticeable impact on driving behavior. During cornering, the automatic locker is characterized by heavy understeer which transitions instantly to power oversteer when traction is exceeded.
Some other automatic lockers operate as an open differential until wheelspin is encountered and then they lockup. This style generally uses an internal governor to sense a difference in wheel speeds. An example of this would be GM's "Gov-Lok."
Some other automatic lockers operate as an open differential until high torque is applied and then they lockup. This style generally uses internal gears systems with very high friction. An example of this would be ZF "sliding pins and cams" available for use in early VWs.


Here is how an automatic diff lock works -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL0hPEOStGk

Last edited by hadtomer; 02/11/12 04:37 PM.

2001 sporty. 4 inch lift+ body lift-front lovlells coils+extended forks. reat tj. monroe shocks. full skid plate, auxilary fan. external oil cooler. maxxis 8060 235/75 R15 tires on american racing wheels. trackfinder rear diff lock.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3948684/2001-kia-sportage
Re: ladies and gentlemen- we have difflock! [Re: hadtomer] #1021750 02/11/12 12:55 PM
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Ah, but is it user selectable? If not, then it's just a traction device, right? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


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Re: ladies and gentlemen- we have difflock! [Re: Dryver] #1021751 02/11/12 04:06 PM
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hadtomer Offline OP
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LOL!!!

Its not user selectable - its an automatic kind -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL0hPEOStGk

Dude.....after 3 years of watching my friends -who own 1000$ suzuki vitaras with a simple rear diff lock do stuff that i could only dream about - i took the first diff lock i could find!!!!!!! dont care if its an automatic type - an air pressure type or a chicked poo operated type - as long as it works!!!!! and mine works.

BTW - automatic lockers are more reliable - pressure operated ones can fail on you when you least expect it.

here is a quote from wikipedia about my kind of locker -

Automatic lockers
Automatic lockers lock and unlock automatically with no direct input from the driver. Some automatic locking differential designs ensure that engine power is always transmitted to both wheels, regardless of traction conditions, and will "unlock" only when one wheel is required to spin faster than the other during cornering. They will never allow either wheel to spin slower than the differential carrier or axle as a whole, but will permit a wheel to be over-driven faster than the carrier speed. The most common example of this type would be the famous "Detroit Locker," also known as the "Detroit No-Spin," which replaces the entire differential carrier assembly. Others, sometimes referred to as "lunchbox lockers," employ the stock differential carrier and replace only the internal spider gears and shafts with interlocking plates. Both types of automatic lockers will allow for a degree of differential wheel speed while turning corners in conditions of equal traction, but will otherwise lock both axle shafts together when traction conditions demand it.
Pros: Automatic action, no driver interaction necessary, no stopping for (dis-) engagement necessary
Cons: Increased tire wear and noticeable impact on driving behavior. During cornering, the automatic locker is characterized by heavy understeer which transitions instantly to power oversteer when traction is exceeded.
Some other automatic lockers operate as an open differential until wheelspin is encountered and then they lockup. This style generally uses an internal governor to sense a difference in wheel speeds. An example of this would be GM's "Gov-Lok."
Some other automatic lockers operate as an open differential until high torque is applied and then they lockup. This style generally uses internal gears systems with very high friction. An example of this would be ZF "sliding pins and cams" available for use in early VWs. [color:"red"] [/color]

Last edited by hadtomer; 02/11/12 04:38 PM.

2001 sporty. 4 inch lift+ body lift-front lovlells coils+extended forks. reat tj. monroe shocks. full skid plate, auxilary fan. external oil cooler. maxxis 8060 235/75 R15 tires on american racing wheels. trackfinder rear diff lock.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3948684/2001-kia-sportage
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