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Ruger .44 mag rework #1021806 02/28/11 06:40 AM
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Am looking at a NIB revolver of same; small-handed person here.

My fit under the hammer with the grip is okay; but is it possible to taper the grips a bit, so I'm wrapping around the bottom a little better? OR- get a refit pair?

50-year flat-top $400 if I can get a fitment. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Ruger .44 mag rework [Re: kewlynx] #1021807 02/28/11 08:31 AM
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The 50th anniversery flattop has the original Ruger grip frame that only lasted a few years when the first blackhawks came out, which is nearly the same size as the old Colt single actions and are the smallest grip frames Ruger makes for any of the Blackhawk and Vaquero line ups ever.

Make sure the grips are the stock grips. They'll be black, hard rubber. If they are, this is as a small as a Blackhawk grip frame gets from the factory. If it has an aftermarket or fancier set of grips they tend to be wider and that might be the problem.

Custom grips can be made of course anyway you want, but they tend to be a little pricy.

The .50 anniversaries are great guns. I had a .357 version and almost opted for a .44 mag, but the barrel is a little longer than I like. I currently have a Super Blackhawk stainless in .44 mag with 4-3/4 barrel, with a Montedo grip frame, which is the same small size frame as the New Vaquero and 50th Anniversary Blackhawks.


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Re: Ruger .44 mag rework [Re: Brian894X4] #1021808 03/02/11 02:13 AM
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This be it; pretty sure they're stock; as mentioned, NIB.

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Re: Ruger .44 mag rework [Re: kewlynx] #1021809 03/02/11 02:17 AM
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Looks stock to me. Beautiful gun. If you want a decent carry load that will at least give you a fighting chance against some bear, but not hurt with the recoil of full house or +P .44 mag, I like to shoot Buffalo Bore low recoil .44 mag in 250 grain keith style hardcast. They call it low recoil, but it's no .44 special. I'd say just a notch below full house mag load, which is probably on par with many standard .44 mag commerical loads these days.

If you could get a spare set of grips, you "might" be able to belt sand the back side of the lower part of the grip to make them narrower. The only thing is, I'm not sure if that would cause a gap or not, since may not really be a way to cinch in the grips at the bottom. But might be worth experimenting on.

Ruger sells these grips if you want an extra pair to work with. They are listed as New Vaquero grips, but are the same ones use on the 50th annivesary models.

http://shopruger.com/MVQ11001-Black-Panels-New-Vaquero/productinfo/19936/

Re: Ruger .44 mag rework [Re: Brian894X4] #1021810 03/02/11 05:33 AM
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Thanks Brian; was thinking a sand job might be the way to go; my ring/pinky fingers barely come around the other side of a grip (friend has one). I've shot them before; gives a Hi-C can some hell. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Ain't skeered of 'em.

Buff rounds are also choice up here, and minimum loads in some areas is REQUIRED.

A 'new' guy with big-hootus mentality tried to impress me with his new shiny .460 the other day; not impressed. Too dang heavy to pull fast; would be better off with bear spray, and told him as much. Dummy. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> Has no clue about working his way around bears. Wants to kill everything. We'd like to send him back to the '48.

ANYWAY-- In my quest for a dang holster as a LH pistol shooter and a RH rifle shooter, I came across this; $80 smackers; guy down around Palmer makes 'em in a couple configs (shotgun/speedloader pouches) and LH. A lot of guys on sno-gos pack this way, as it beats losing firearms on the trail and they're reachable.

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We're going to be in some fair bear country this summer for about 10 days, with fish running and found out that bears like to go clamming too, I'd like to have a good stinger along for just in case; shotgun and pepper spray for camp. I think the Fritzmeister might be okay with toting spray on the trails.

Gotta catch up to the guy to talk turkey, so I can get in a little range time too. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Ruger .44 mag rework [Re: kewlynx] #1021811 03/02/11 12:27 PM
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Poor bears.... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Nice pistol, Marge. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Ruger .44 mag rework [Re: FrankR] #1021812 03/03/11 04:11 AM
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Oh Frank, I think the bears would be okay for the most part; lots of food around. Just gotta pay attention and know when to call it a day and get off the water/trails.

In Valdez, there's a place where a lot of people shore fish for silvers; the blackies come down and fish too. For the most part, the bears ignore you and go fishing, so leaving your catch on the rocks isn't a very good idea, heheh. You're fine if you don't startle them.

I sure as heck don't want to get stuck salvaging a bear that's been eating fish and clams--pass!! Don't think we'd have enough beer in camp to wash yer mouth out.
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Re: Ruger .44 mag rework [Re: kewlynx] #1021813 03/03/11 09:27 PM
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How fast is that hammer strap release? Otherwise, I likee muchee. I've seen big butt revolvers like that with fingertip dimples in the inner grip edge for smaller handed shooters. Are you planning to shoot offhanded or two handed?


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Re: Ruger .44 mag rework [Re: fasteddy] #1021814 03/04/11 03:57 AM
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It's not bad Eddy. I've got the LH version of this holster.

With my other sidearm I've been doing the draw with my left hand and popping the strap at the same time with my right; it's a squeeze clip, and I can work it with gloves on. Haven't done it with a rain jacket on yet. This is also a more centered carry, esp if a larger firearm; comfy. I also prefer an African carry with a shotgun, but am too short; he's got a nice little shotgun setup for a back rig that I'm considering.

It's going to cost some $$ to convert my Para to a LH firearm, so I'm faced with either selling it or giving RH a try. It's a good fit otherwise. There's a lot of thought put into this rig. I think he sells them in camo too.

I will say that if in bear country and I can't see more than 30 ft around me, or if hiking along a stream where you're not quite loud enough for an animal to hear you, I've got the firearm dujour in condition one and/or unlooped.

I practice offhand, because you're not always going to be able to get into a shooting stance; not enough time. If out just plinking, then I can get a little more refined and work on my distance shooting.


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Re: Ruger .44 mag rework [Re: kewlynx] #1021815 03/08/11 07:07 PM
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A single action revolver is meant to be fired with the pinky finger under the grip, not wrapped around it. Originally, the Colt SAA was a calvary weapon, meant for use while on horseback. Ever hear the term "throwdown" in a cowboy movie? While riding, one kept their revolver about head level, as they approached their target/adversary the arm was flung forward, thumb cocking the hammer on the way down, and it was fired. Recoil rocked the revolver rearward in the hand and up, where the rider had it ready to repeat the process. This worked great for six shots. Actually, because the gun's design left the firing pin resting on a primer of a cartridge, most SA guns were carried with five rounds, and the hammer down on a empty chamber. Paper money was often carried in the empty chamber. If you ever examine a 100+ year old revolver and find one of the six chambers to be rusty, while the other chambers are clean, often it is because paper money attracted moisture.

Google search for gunsmith's that customize SA revolvers and I am sure you will find somebody to convert your frame to a different size grip. The SASS cowboy participants have created a market for such work.


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