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Gen1 Transfer Cases Options #1026851
04/19/11 01:20 PM
04/19/11 01:20 PM
RECON45  Offline OP
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I know it has been discussed multiple times that a Np231 case will bolt up and maintain the driverside drop of the front diff. What all Tcases bolt up that are passenger drop?


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89 Raider "Trailbreaker", 3.0, Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats
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Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026852
04/19/11 04:44 PM
04/19/11 04:44 PM
TOASTY  Offline
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Dana 300 Can do either side but is originally designed to be a passenger side drop. So if you buy one and then change your mind because of finding a deal on a driver side axle you just buy a flip kit for the 300.


1999 Montero Blizzard package

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Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: TOASTY] #1026853
04/20/11 04:23 AM
04/20/11 04:23 AM
rxinhed  Offline
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If the NP231 fits, why not an NP205 or NP208? These were bolted to the same GM transmissions as the NP231, right?

Atlas 4-speed?

Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: rxinhed] #1026854
04/20/11 07:30 AM
04/20/11 07:30 AM
TOASTY  Offline
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just needs to be the standard 6 bolt round pattern and 23 spline.


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2005 Montero Limited

2015 Mirage with antifreeze Sparco wheel package
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: TOASTY] #1026855
04/20/11 08:59 AM
04/20/11 08:59 AM
spencevans  Offline
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Utah
All the following should bolt up to the first gen V6 automatic transmission.

1992-2000 Mitsubishi Activ-Trak AWD t-cases


Short input or a clocking ring are required for the following:
23 spline Atlas transfer cases
Rock Trac NP241
NP242 with AWD Select Trac
NP231
STaK Tcases
Dana 300
Dana 20

Personally I think an NP242 out of Jeep Liberty with 4.1 crawler gears would be cool. It has fixed yokes, it would give a great low range ratio and AWD for those snowy days. Down side is it's chain driven.

There are also 2.85 crawler gears available for your current tcase but I am sure your already aware of this. An other option I have been looking into is possibly adding a reduction box between the tranny and tcase. Several companies like advance adapters make reduction boxes that will bolt in, it's just a matter of how many mods to the tunnel, drive shafts and frame would it take to get a reduction box to fit.


Spence
1985 Mitsubishi PU 2.3 Turbo Diesel, 13" lift, Watercooled turbo, 4D56 Head, Atlas II,Fox Coilovers, Elockers,

1983 Mitsubishi PU 2.5 Turbo Diesel 4x4, fully restored

2003 G500, sliders, beadlocks, roofrack, ladder etc.
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: spencevans] #1026856
04/20/11 02:17 PM
04/20/11 02:17 PM
RECON45  Offline OP
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Well this whole idea spun off the point of if I might do a SAS and the Tcase swap is an option, then why not look at all options. There are Chevy dana44s running hot and cold around here. not so many Wagoneer 44s, so with that I am exploring other Tcase options. this has been alot of good information.

I have thought about the reduction box, but you are right about alot of work involved with mounts, crossmembers, and driveshafts. Hopefully just swaping out tcases will not require major work.


91 Montero LS "Sandstorm", Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats, 2" Suspension lift, 2" Body Lift, GENII front IFS, 32" MT tires

89 Raider "Trailbreaker", 3.0, Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026857
04/20/11 06:15 PM
04/20/11 06:15 PM
zarktheshark  Offline
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Monroe, Wa *****
Just a thought, but what about a portal axel setup? you would get a slight gear reduction and you are going SAS anyway? One draw back would be you have to do both axels. IDK. Like i said, just a thought.


'88 Raider. 2.6L dead...2.4L swap in progress, AT, 33's, 2 bouncy seat,AC, CC, 2.25 exh, 2" Tbar, 2" BL, rear DB, rear LSD,4.90's, SW hubs,gen2 uca's, KYB shocks, snorkel, elec fan, MSD.

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Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: zarktheshark] #1026858
04/20/11 07:14 PM
04/20/11 07:14 PM
RECON45  Offline OP
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Statesville, NC
Thats an intersting thought. Get portal axles from a hummer might be interesting. IFS set up and the hubs then run the CTIS would be slick. I bet it would be wide set up.


91 Montero LS "Sandstorm", Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats, 2" Suspension lift, 2" Body Lift, GENII front IFS, 32" MT tires

89 Raider "Trailbreaker", 3.0, Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026859
04/20/11 08:36 PM
04/20/11 08:36 PM
TOASTY  Offline
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Mesa AZ, US. *****
here's the Humraider on hummer portal axles but i think Volvo portals would be the easiest and most practical/cost effective/most capable. Solid axles are better


[Linked Image]



here's volvo portals, lighter duty than Mog portals but they don't need to be modified since the volvo C303 doesn't have torque tube suspension


[Linked Image]


1999 Montero Blizzard package

2005 Montero Limited

2015 Mirage with antifreeze Sparco wheel package
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: TOASTY] #1026860
04/20/11 09:41 PM
04/20/11 09:41 PM
RECON45  Offline OP
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Statesville, NC
Thats really cool that some one has already done it but after seeing it, not too impressed. The unimog and volvo portals are very nice. They do have something coming out for the d60, it is a portal hub to be inplace of the stock one. I think its $2000 a side. But me I am not wantig to go to extreme been there. i want something just a step above what my montero is currently capable. more than likely d44 front and lower gear Tcase. Thanks for the info. Anymore pics and specs on the Humraider?


91 Montero LS "Sandstorm", Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats, 2" Suspension lift, 2" Body Lift, GENII front IFS, 32" MT tires

89 Raider "Trailbreaker", 3.0, Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026861
04/21/11 03:41 AM
04/21/11 03:41 AM
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Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: rxinhed] #1026862
05/02/11 08:57 PM
05/02/11 08:57 PM
lordtrunks  Offline
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d300 and passenger side drop d44 one thing i will tell you if you use a dana case or atlas like the 300 you will have to cut the floor to make it fit, the gear drive cases are kinda tall unlike the chain driven cases. i have flipped dana 300 in the 89 "savage" chop and ive got a 3" body lift and the t\case is against the floor. no i'm not leaving it that way gotta cut it. I did have a bronco dana 20 which is driver side drop and that fit a bit better but with anything less than a 3" bl the floor will need to be cut to fit it aswell, i bet a atlas would be a fair bit of cutting too. Once you go gear drive you won't wanna mess with anything else so beware. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


89 2 dr turbo diesel
89/88 "Backwoods sas"
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: lordtrunks] #1026863
05/02/11 09:24 PM
05/02/11 09:24 PM
RECON45  Offline OP
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Statesville, NC
Is it nessacary to cut the floor for the np231 driverside drop? I have a 2" body lift. thanks for the info this is good info to know. i think I might go with the driverside route. i also heard something somewhere about using atoyota axle and swaping the knuckles to make it a driverside drop, but I know nothing about this.


91 Montero LS "Sandstorm", Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats, 2" Suspension lift, 2" Body Lift, GENII front IFS, 32" MT tires

89 Raider "Trailbreaker", 3.0, Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026864
05/02/11 09:34 PM
05/02/11 09:34 PM
TOASTY  Offline
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Toy axles can be "flipped" but if you are swapping t-cases might as well just go passenger side drop to make it easier and less expensive. NP231 goes in without cutting the floor, at least mine did with itīs 2" body lift.


1999 Montero Blizzard package

2005 Montero Limited

2015 Mirage with antifreeze Sparco wheel package
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: TOASTY] #1026865
05/02/11 10:08 PM
05/02/11 10:08 PM
lordtrunks  Offline
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231 will fit no problem size wise its pretty close to the mitsu case. Jb conversions offer a nice SYE for it.


89 2 dr turbo diesel
89/88 "Backwoods sas"
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: lordtrunks] #1026866
05/03/11 07:41 AM
05/03/11 07:41 AM
TOASTY  Offline
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The 231 is Much smaller than the Gen 2 cases and still smaller than the gen 1 case so it should go with no clearance problems on a stock truck. A clocking ring would be good insurance for fitting since you could use the long input cases as well as clocking the case.


1999 Montero Blizzard package

2005 Montero Limited

2015 Mirage with antifreeze Sparco wheel package
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: spencevans] #1026867
06/05/11 04:01 AM
06/05/11 04:01 AM
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belijose  Offline
Wheeler
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Posts: 102
florida, USA
what about manual transmissions? have you heard any t cases that would just bolt on the mt's ?


1989 Dodge Raider v6 3.0 L, MT.
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: belijose] #1026868
01/16/12 12:28 AM
01/16/12 12:28 AM
RECON45  Offline OP
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Statesville, NC
Talks about the Aussie gear for the factory Tcase in another thread has inspired me to dig up this thread.
The stats I got online on some Tcase options:

Gen1 Stock= 1.925:1
Aussie Gear= 2.85:1
Dana 300= 2.62:1
NP231= 2.72:1

Both the 300 and 231 have kits to make them 4:1

Looking at the numbers and what I have been reading and advice the 300 is sounding more appealing. The biggest thing for me is what is going to fit without altering the floor. Custom crossmember is not a big deal. Also making the tcase work for a driverside set up is important. I do like the fact that the 300 will not need a slip yoke eliminator (like the np231) it is a sealed unit. It also looks like the 300 is smaller than the 231 but about 10lbs heavier. Anybody wants to add info to this that would be great. I did alot of research and asked alot of members on here about all the info on the 231 now I need info on the 300. Thanks


91 Montero LS "Sandstorm", Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats, 2" Suspension lift, 2" Body Lift, GENII front IFS, 32" MT tires

89 Raider "Trailbreaker", 3.0, Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026869
01/18/12 08:32 PM
01/18/12 08:32 PM
RECON45  Offline OP
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Statesville, NC
I am doing alot of homework with lots of help on figuring out the most straight forward swap of a flipped dana 300 into the montero.

Thanks everyone for your help.


91 Montero LS "Sandstorm", Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats, 2" Suspension lift, 2" Body Lift, GENII front IFS, 32" MT tires

89 Raider "Trailbreaker", 3.0, Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026870
02/12/12 12:39 AM
02/12/12 12:39 AM
RECON45  Offline OP
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Statesville, NC
So I went with the np231 case. The speedometer cable will thread on but the cable itself does not match. the mitsu has a round piece with a key style adapter and the np231 is a square adapter. I am going to look into seeing if I can swap a cherokee cable and see if it will plug into the back of the speedo since the mitsu has a square input.

I am looking at getting the tcase swap in a month once I get my shifter and cable linkage set up done.


91 Montero LS "Sandstorm", Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats, 2" Suspension lift, 2" Body Lift, GENII front IFS, 32" MT tires

89 Raider "Trailbreaker", 3.0, Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026871
02/12/12 02:20 AM
02/12/12 02:20 AM
Mudraider  Offline
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Orange Park, FL
Take lots of pics dude, looking at a Dana 300 so it interests me to see how you do it.

Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026872
02/12/12 07:22 AM
02/12/12 07:22 AM
spencevans  Offline
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Utah
Quote
So I went with the np231 case. The speedometer cable will thread on but the cable itself does not match. the mitsu has a round piece with a key style adapter and the np231 is a square adapter. I am going to look into seeing if I can swap a cherokee cable and see if it will plug into the back of the speedo since the mitsu has a square input.

I am looking at getting the tcase swap in a month once I get my shifter and cable linkage set up done.


Just call nevada speedometer and they can make you an adapter for about $100. You just screw the adapter on to the end of the existing cable and it should work. They made an adapter for my stock Mitsu cable to my Atlas and my speedo works not to mention it is accurate. Turn around time was about a week after I gave them the specs.


Spence
1985 Mitsubishi PU 2.3 Turbo Diesel, 13" lift, Watercooled turbo, 4D56 Head, Atlas II,Fox Coilovers, Elockers,

1983 Mitsubishi PU 2.5 Turbo Diesel 4x4, fully restored

2003 G500, sliders, beadlocks, roofrack, ladder etc.
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: spencevans] #1026873
02/12/12 04:25 PM
02/12/12 04:25 PM
fasteddy  Offline
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Why not a nv242? There's a 242hd amg version behind the 4L60E (or is it the 4L80E) in H1's and H2's. This gives you all the options of the Gen2 tcase with the 4wh, 2wh, a N position, and 4wl with the center diff locked. Dside drop, too. THere are sye kits that fit. THe Heep version needs a Novak adapter to bolt up to the same pattern as the 231, another $550...


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Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: fasteddy] #1026874
02/12/12 09:40 PM
02/12/12 09:40 PM
RECON45  Offline OP
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Statesville, NC
Keeping it simple. Plus I got an insane deal on my 231. But through this work it could easily be applied to the 242 or similar cases. The big thing I am trying to take care are all the little things that come up and get in the way like speedometer, linkages, driveshaft lengths. I hope to have an easy answer for all these things. Toasty has did the hard part of seeing if this stuff will bolt up.

O yeah one other tip I learn this weekend. If you get one of the tcases with the electric speedo set up you can swap in an older style manual speedo with 1 bolt. Saves money on buying expensive conversion adapters to make it work.


91 Montero LS "Sandstorm", Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats, 2" Suspension lift, 2" Body Lift, GENII front IFS, 32" MT tires

89 Raider "Trailbreaker", 3.0, Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026875
02/13/12 08:05 PM
02/13/12 08:05 PM
fasteddy  Offline
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Posts: 13,649
Helen , GA *****
Any good speedo shop can adapt cable ends and such. Speeometer Repair Service in Roswell/Alpharetta, GA has done good work for me in the past, adapting a B&M pulse generator and magic box to control the TC lockup on a 700r4 in my LC FJ55 with the 350sbc.


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Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026876
02/15/12 05:55 PM
02/15/12 05:55 PM
heathdogg  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 422
Flagstaff, Az
Are you going to try to keep the shifter in the same place? I thought about moving the parking brake to the other side of the console and getting the jeep shifter to put there. Reasoning that the driver wouldn't bump the shifter in a mad scramble to keep oneself from bouncing around the cab. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> I did find a electric switch for the 231. It's a NAPA 600-2941/ dorman 600551. There is a connector that fits it so the dash light can be retained. I don't know about room for the tunnel though. It's been cold so I haven't started mine conversion yet. And I'm trying to get the SYE kit.


Blacktero: 90 Montero Lwb V6 RS Model. 16" Toyota Alloy Rims, Dual Bouncy's; Gen II Front Rotors & Calipers; Rear LSD

Sraider: 87 Raider 2.6 base. Work yet to be done.
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: heathdogg] #1026877
02/15/12 06:11 PM
02/15/12 06:11 PM
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willwinchforfood  Offline
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Posts: 508
Tucker, Ga
Had anyone looked at an NVG 249OR? Factory fixed output and 4.0:1 low gear. 23 spline short like we need.
John


SOLD!!: 91 LS 95 SR Rear LSD front 95 LS front brakes Dons Bumper 10k Gorilla/Promark winch Safari Snorkel Dual bouncy 31's

1991 Chevy Suburban 33's. All other stock.
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: willwinchforfood] #1026878
02/15/12 06:37 PM
02/15/12 06:37 PM
off-roader  Offline
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Had anyone looked at an NVG 249OR? Factory fixed output and 4.0:1 low gear. 23 spline short like we need.
John


Which case is that? When I checked wikipedia (yeah it's not necessarily accurate) it didn't show that model. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Venture_Gear

It shows the NVG 249 as an all wheel drive xcase and only has a final ratio of 2.72:1.

Then there's the 2410R which matches the final drive ratio you mention. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: off-roader] #1026879
02/15/12 08:06 PM
02/15/12 08:06 PM
RECON45  Offline OP
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Statesville, NC
I hope to use the stock location but figuring out the shifter will be fun. I like the idea of the shifter beside the center console but I rather not make more holes in my cab. but I think the idea would be slick looking. My 231 has that switch on the case. I need to get the plug and wire and figure out how to tie into the stock wiring.


91 Montero LS "Sandstorm", Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats, 2" Suspension lift, 2" Body Lift, GENII front IFS, 32" MT tires

89 Raider "Trailbreaker", 3.0, Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026880
02/15/12 10:12 PM
02/15/12 10:12 PM
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willwinchforfood  Offline
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Tucker, Ga
sorry 241or out of the rubicon tj
241or link


SOLD!!: 91 LS 95 SR Rear LSD front 95 LS front brakes Dons Bumper 10k Gorilla/Promark winch Safari Snorkel Dual bouncy 31's

1991 Chevy Suburban 33's. All other stock.
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: willwinchforfood] #1026881
02/16/12 01:29 AM
02/16/12 01:29 AM
dannytuned  Offline
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St. John, IN
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sorry 241or out of the rubicon tj
241or link


Slim chance finding one of those for a reasonable price.

4:1 gears are $600 for the Dana 300, cheapest 4:1 gearset.


2001Sport 3.0-Headers-Cage-RoofChop-NP231/D300-D44/ARB-Ford9/Yukon/3Link-37's+H1's-PSC Assist-108:1
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: dannytuned] #1026882
02/16/12 01:57 AM
02/16/12 01:57 AM
fasteddy  Offline
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Posts: 13,649
Helen , GA *****
There is an NPG249. It's a viscous coupler type. Has problems with the VC unit often and the 242 is the usual swap.

IIRC the three digits on NV/NPG tcases are as follows
first didgit = # of speeds, i.e., 1 is hi only, 2 is hi-lo
second digit = strength, the bigger the #, the stronger, so a 231 is weaker than a 242. I think they go up to about 7 or 8
third digit = type of center diff/torque splitter -
1 = Part-time 4WD
2 = Full-time 4WD
3 = Electronic shift
4 = Not currently used
5 = Torsen-type differential
6 = Computer controlled multi-plate wet clutch
7 = GeroDisc
8 = Not currently used
9 = Viscous coupling

I cheated and looked up the 3rd digit stuff....


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Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: fasteddy] #1026883
02/16/12 02:13 AM
02/16/12 02:13 AM
Mudraider  Offline
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Orange Park, FL
So it is looking like the Dana 300 is going to be my choice to facilitate the Toyota axle. Now to keep an eye out for the 4:1 gears.

Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026884
02/16/12 05:04 PM
02/16/12 05:04 PM
heathdogg  Offline
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Posts: 422
Flagstaff, Az
I can give you the NAPA numbers. The connector is a 725176 and the terminals are (2) 725171 16-14ga wire or (2) 725150 for 20-18ga wire and (2) 725152 for the seals. The terminals have to be crimped on though. There is a connector that come with wire on it already a NAPA EC152/ Standard S172 but it is way over priced. Or snag one from a Grand Cheerokee. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by heathdogg; 02/16/12 05:05 PM.

Blacktero: 90 Montero Lwb V6 RS Model. 16" Toyota Alloy Rims, Dual Bouncy's; Gen II Front Rotors & Calipers; Rear LSD

Sraider: 87 Raider 2.6 base. Work yet to be done.
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: heathdogg] #1026885
02/25/12 01:15 PM
02/25/12 01:15 PM
lordtrunks  Offline
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Apache Jct, Arizona,USA *****
mudraider i'm trying to remember but i think when i was playing with my d300 when it was unflipped(pass drop) it cleared the floor just fine now running it driver side drop is a whole different story haha had to cut my floor and move my seat frame back. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> i still gotta order shifters for it i've been crawling under it to shift in and out of 4wd <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />


89 2 dr turbo diesel
89/88 "Backwoods sas"
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: lordtrunks] #1026886
02/25/12 10:37 PM
02/25/12 10:37 PM
dannytuned  Offline
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Posts: 391
St. John, IN
When I took off my body lift I had to cut the floor to clear my flipped 300, but did not have to touch my seat, mines a Sport though. I might have been able to clock it down one notch but wanted it to tuck up as much as possible.

edit. I guess I would have had to do something with my seat if I wasn't running a doubler.

Last edited by dannytuned; 02/25/12 10:40 PM.

2001Sport 3.0-Headers-Cage-RoofChop-NP231/D300-D44/ARB-Ford9/Yukon/3Link-37's+H1's-PSC Assist-108:1
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: lordtrunks] #1026887
02/26/12 05:57 AM
02/26/12 05:57 AM
Mudraider  Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,249
Orange Park, FL
LT, picked up the Toy axle, this weekend. Dana 300, next weekend. gathering parts to leaf spring the front end.

Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: Mudraider] #1026888
03/02/12 12:12 AM
03/02/12 12:12 AM
RECON45  Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,342
Statesville, NC
I got a cable linkage set up and playing with the shifter trying to figure out its orientation. I was looking under the montero and notice 2 things. How has others work the body mount situation? The montero has a driverside body mount that the 231 does not have. Also with the automatic transmission the shifter linkage bolts up at this point as well. How has others addressed this? or did yall have manual trannys. Thanks.


91 Montero LS "Sandstorm", Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats, 2" Suspension lift, 2" Body Lift, GENII front IFS, 32" MT tires

89 Raider "Trailbreaker", 3.0, Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026889
03/02/12 01:05 AM
03/02/12 01:05 AM
fasteddy  Offline
Web Wheeler
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,649
Helen , GA *****
The "mount" on the dside is not a support, just a roll restrictor.

Time for a cable shifter for the tranny. Look at art carr.


Not responsible for advice not taken...
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: fasteddy] #1026890
03/02/12 02:06 AM
03/02/12 02:06 AM
RECON45  Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,342
Statesville, NC
Really. that is fantastic news about the mount is not an actual mount. i was wondering it did seems kinda flimsy or not as beefy as all the other things on the montero. I will see if I can retain the factory shifter set up, but that does seem to be a poorly design set up.


91 Montero LS "Sandstorm", Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats, 2" Suspension lift, 2" Body Lift, GENII front IFS, 32" MT tires

89 Raider "Trailbreaker", 3.0, Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026891
03/02/12 07:09 PM
03/02/12 07:09 PM
LandRaider  Offline
Forum Moderator
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 8,557
Ocean Springs, MS *****
on my 231 I hacked the handle off the shifter, and welded on a chromed steel rod that was bent like I needed it to be. I slotted the floorboard with a jigsaw, and then used some rubber matting with a slit in it to work as the floor seal. Then I got a K5Blazer Boot, and used it to cut out a ring, and screwed that all to the floor.


87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
31's..Basically Stock
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: LandRaider] #1026892
03/02/12 07:11 PM
03/02/12 07:11 PM
LandRaider  Offline
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Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 8,557
Ocean Springs, MS *****
Here's a pic. Notice the location... This is with a 700r4, and GM motor, so it has little bearing on where yours would need to go.

http://alliedpaper.org/landraider/SASpics%20%2812%29.JPG

LARGE picture


87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
31's..Basically Stock
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: LandRaider] #1026893
03/02/12 08:01 PM
03/02/12 08:01 PM
RECON45  Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,342
Statesville, NC
Very clean. If I had carpeting for mine, I might would consider that route. I think I got most everything figured out now. it is now a matter of having a few clear weather days to work on it to get everything swaped. Thanks for the input and picture.


91 Montero LS "Sandstorm", Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats, 2" Suspension lift, 2" Body Lift, GENII front IFS, 32" MT tires

89 Raider "Trailbreaker", 3.0, Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026894
03/06/12 09:34 PM
03/06/12 09:34 PM
RECON45  Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,342
Statesville, NC
I will try to get pictures but I have a mcmaster carr shifter and 6' cable to use for my shifting. i need to fab a bracket for the shifter to hold it to the floor and a bracket for the cable part to the Tcase. there really is much of a place to set up a bracket that bolts up to the tcase. i will try to get pictures. I want to see if I can use the factory shifter knob on the new set up. i might have to mod it a little bit.


91 Montero LS "Sandstorm", Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats, 2" Suspension lift, 2" Body Lift, GENII front IFS, 32" MT tires

89 Raider "Trailbreaker", 3.0, Auto, Dual Bouncy Seats
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1026895
03/07/12 03:03 AM
03/07/12 03:03 AM
Mudraider  Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,249
Orange Park, FL
I got my Dana 300. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: Mudraider] #1026896
06/05/12 10:20 PM
06/05/12 10:20 PM
dsmguy  Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 25
Texas
the 4cyl raider transfercase and upgrade for the mighty max? the only thing i see different is that is has the nuetral position and mine does not.


89 Raider V6 5 speed factory lsd rear
88 mighty max 4 cyl. 5 speed
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1104154
02/03/18 04:31 AM
02/03/18 04:31 AM
djacidjac  Offline
Wheeler
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 161
PA USA
I'm exploring options. I was hoping to fit some kind of under-drive box like the BlackBox from NorthWest Fabworks. I've been googling for a couple of hours and all I can find is some vague "23 spline" talk.

Does anybody know for sure what are the shaft specs on a gen 1, 2.6, manual KM-145 transmission:

1. transmission output shaft
a. diameter
b. spline count
c. usable/spline length
2. transfer case
a. (will be same as above)
b. (will be same as above)
c. usable/spline depth
3. any other info related (such as what adapters or cases have the same bolt pattern, what model name/number the transfer case is, etc)


87 Dodge Raider 5sp 2.6l no jet valves, Tuffpan
OME Dakar leaf springs + T-bar crank + 2" body lift (4" lift).
5500lb winch, Starion alternator, grp31 marine bat'
OBA (stock AC compressor)
33x12.5x15 Baja Claws or Wintermark extra load 235/75/15 M/S
Re: Gen1 Transfer Cases Options [Re: RECON45] #1104164
02/03/18 06:50 PM
02/03/18 06:50 PM
rxinhed  Offline
Trail Leader
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,090
Gerber, CA *****
Mark's in Australia sell a 2.85 low gear set. They've had 3.15 in the past. Look up Toasty or Josh on Adventure Driven Design (.com), as I believe they're marketing the kits.


1988 Mighty Max turbo 2.6 service body
1980 Power Wagon W400
Sundry Mitsubishi Montero Gen 1 parts
Parts vehicles: 1980 D50 2wd, 1988 Mighty Max 4wd, 89 LS Montero 4-door, 2002 Sport AWD
For Sale: 1989 Power Ram 50 extended cab
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