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Re: Gun Recommendations [Re: Kirk] #1044559 04/03/12 05:38 AM
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I got the roomdawg eased back into her Dad's firearms with her old Ruger 10/22 and a High Standard 9-shot revolver. Pulled a couple rounds out of it and had her pull it out of the holster for each shot. Double action on the thing absolutely sucks, but for what we were doing, SA was fine.

I've got small hands too, and found most of the Ruger SP101 series fit nicely. Am still looking for a 44mag as an aw**** in brush.

My .40 is almost too big to grip, but managed to get control with some range time. FINALLY found someone to move things to the left side of it for me. Target rounds for range; Noslers the rest of the time.

We did some shotgun work before heading to Cordova last summer. Funny stuff. Glad she kept the piece down range and didn't drop it the first time. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

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Whatever you choose, take a firearms course and get a lot of range practice. The time of need is not when a fellow should learn the basics of shooting.


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Re: Gun Recommendations [Re: stock87] #1044560 04/03/12 07:35 AM
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Requirements:

1) Durability/simplicity - [color:"blue"]Sig P series. i vote for P226 [/color]

2) Ammo availability - [color:"blue"]start with 9mm. NATO round. [/color]

3) Safety - [color:"blue"]with the Sig P series. the safety is that thing between your ears. [/color]

4) Price - [color:"blue"]Sigs... you know that saying you get what you paid for? this... [/color]

Other things I'm considering, especially for pistols, is size. I have enormous hands, and my wife has tiny ones. I'm guessing we'll probably wind up with his & hers guns, at least in the pistol department.
[color:"blue"]P226 for you, P229 or P238 for her... [/color]



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Re: Gun Recommendations [Re: Kirk] #1044561 04/03/12 03:52 PM
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If your wife is at all reluctant about firearms this may be a way to ease her into it.


<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Oh man, good one. No, but seriously, we've been talking about this since before we were married, and just never really got around to it until now.

The other day we went out shooting with a friend of ours (with his MP15), and that sort of served as the spark for finally talking seriously about it.

We would have had his pistol to play with too (Walther P22), but the slide broke in half a few months ago, and the manufacturer is still fixing it.


We're definitely impressed with the ease of shooting of the 22, and with the accuracy that can be achieved. There were things we did and didn't like about the gun though. One big thing for me was the fact that it got dirty enough to not fire within only maybe 150-200 rounds. And he claims it was cleaned before being put away last time. Maybe it's just the novice speaking, but that seems awfully quick for things to gum up.

On the plus side, as people have mentioned, practically NO recoil, and really no need for earplugs either. And accuracy. That was basically my first time shooting for any period of time, and I nailed a spent shotgun shell at 50-60feet.

It seems like it doesn't get much more basic than a .22 Rifle, and that sounds like a good place to start in the rifle category.

Maybe we should just go with a (some?) pistol(s) of the same caliber for practice, and simplicity of only needing one ammo.

As for home defense, I can't honestly ever really see needing to, but I'd rather have it and not need it


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Re: Gun Recommendations [Re: stock87] #1044562 04/03/12 08:07 PM
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I learned on a Remington Nylon66 .22lr automatic with a 4power scope. It was a tack driver. My g'father could write his name in the target with it at 50yds.


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Re: Gun Recommendations [Re: stock87] #1044563 04/05/12 09:30 AM
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The other day we went out shooting with a friend of ours (with his MP15), and that sort of served as the spark for finally talking seriously about it.

We're definitely impressed with the ease of shooting of the 22, and with the accuracy that can be achieved. There were things we did and didn't like about the gun though. One big thing for me was the fact that it got dirty enough to not fire within only maybe 150-200 rounds. And he claims it was cleaned before being put away last time. Maybe it's just the novice speaking, but that seems awfully quick for things to gum up.

It seems like it doesn't get much more basic than a .22 Rifle, and that sounds like a good place to start in the rifle category.

Maybe we should just go with a (some?) pistol(s) of the same caliber for practice, and simplicity of only needing one ammo.


The gumming up of the MP15 after only 150-200 rounds could be from using very poor quality rounds, design of the riffle or a combo of both. I have easily put 1500k rounds through my Ruger 10/22 in a day shooting, and have never had it gum up, even after 3 or 4 trips to the range w/o cleaning it. The MP15 is a pricey piece at $400+, if it were I , I would opt for a Ruger 10/22 for around $200. With the few hundred dollars you would save, you could easily have enough money to buy a new stock, case, scope, extra mags, and likely several 1000 rounds of ammo.

Having a one cal. round set-up is nice, but w/.22LR conversions for several semi-autos, you could buy a 9mm or .40 cal. semi-auto, and have 2 handguns in one. The Glock kits from http://www.22lrconversions.com/ordpg-p.htm come with a new slide and clip, and takes only seconds to convert between the two calibers.


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Re: Gun Recommendations [Re: Snowtoy] #1044564 04/05/12 02:35 PM
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jeepdriver Offline
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Ciener may be out of business, he was arrested a few months back. His kits are hit and miss, but his customer service flat out sucks. He doesn't answer the phone or emails.

I had a Advantage Arms .22 conversion kit for my Glock 26's. It did not work 100% of the time on either gun. It was nicely made but the reliability issues were too much to deal with. IMHO, one would be better off to purchase a .22 handgun. My AA kit listed for $325.00 and had an optional extended, threaded barrel for suppressor use, another $130.00. That kind of money will buy a nice .22 handgun.

Some ammo is just plain filthy, and rimfire ammo is among the worst of nasty. Test several types of ammo in a firearm to determine what it likes the best. I always thought PMC and Aguila were dirty burning ammo.


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Re: Gun Recommendations [Re: jeepdriver] #1044565 04/05/12 07:37 PM
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Kirk Offline
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Bought a bunch of Aguila once because it was on sale. Not only does it stink when you shoot it but it was the dirtiest ammo I've ever shot. I hate that stuff. Had to clean my rifle after a couple hundred rounds.


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