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Re: Bad diff, transmission, driveshaft axle, what? [Re: Nukeiridium] #1061267 06/28/13 10:04 PM
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OK well, the shop called back. They quoted me $2000 to put in a used transmission from a junkyard, because they are only willing to do the job if they can open up the transmission and replace all the seals or whatever while they are at it.

I told them I can't spend that much money on that car so I'm going to drive it home. I'll either buy a different car or more likely, I'll get a used transmission from a junkyard and do the swap myself when I have time. I've done harder jobs before and I just can't make myself pay so much money for this job. I think I can get a used transmission for close to 500 bucks and just do the work myself.

Actually to be honest, I am a little bit excited to do the job myself, crazy right?

Any suggestions on a good place to buy a clutch, throwout bearing, and whatever other parts I will need for this job? If anyone who knows what parts I will need could give me some advice that would be great! I've never swapped out a manual transmission especially one with a transfer case. I am guessing the hardest part will be putting the clutch on correctly and adjusting it or whatever it is you do to the clutch?

I have the shop manuals so that helps!

Also does anybody know, are all the model years of manual transmission compatible with each other? Any gotchas I need to watch out for when picking which manual transmission to put in?

Last edited by Nukeiridium; 06/28/13 10:12 PM.

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Re: Bad diff, transmission, driveshaft axle, what? [Re: Nukeiridium] #1061268 06/29/13 02:23 AM
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Guess I'd better look over my transmission case for cracks... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Bad diff, transmission, driveshaft axle, what? [Re: Nukeiridium] #1061269 06/29/13 08:06 AM
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Check RockAuto. They have clutch kits for your vehicle that have the throw out bearing, clutch, disc and the alignment tool - all in the price range of $98-$135. If you Google RockAuto discount codes, you can get a code that will take a few bucks off your purchase. These are all OEM kits. If you want a performance clutch, you'll have to look elsewhere. If you are on a budget and have no issues with stock parts, there's no harm in looking there. I've bought lots of parts from them and never had a problem. As for replacing the tranny, if you have the skills to do it yourself, do it. You can get a used tranny, new clutch, some extra tools and a tranny jack for less than you'll pay a shop to do it. You can always shop around to see how much a shop will charge to rebuild the used tranny as a drop-off without installation. I think Everet just had his rebuilt. He might be able to give you some good advice on the subject...

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Re: Bad diff, transmission, driveshaft axle, what? [Re: Nukeiridium] #1061270 06/29/13 11:43 PM
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Nuke,
Find another shop.
I had my 5 speed rebuilt by the #1 guy here in the South Bay and it cost $400 + $100 in parts. My mechanic charged me $500 to R&R the transmission and transfer case.
If you are going to replace the clutch, pressure plate and throwout bearing, I really like the Kevlar clutch and HD pressure plate I got from South Bend Clutches.

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Re: Bad diff, transmission, driveshaft axle, what? [Re: Everet] #1061271 07/02/13 07:11 PM
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Well I am currently checking prices with other transmission shops. There is a guy my dad's neighbor who sells used cars uses for all his transmission work, he is supposedly really fair with his pricing. We're taking the sporty to him to see what he would charge to swap in a used gearbox, and replace the clutch while he's at it. If his quote is more reasonable than the first place, I might just bite the bullet and pay for it to be done.

I've had some other complications come up at the same time with my life, with work problems, dating (which I can't really do without a car that has AC), and the AC in my house breaking down now... I just don't have enough hours in the day lately! So if this other smaller shop will do the work for a lower price I might just have him do it.

If he wants too much money though I will drive it home and park it and find the time to do it myself.

Last edited by Nukeiridium; 07/02/13 07:13 PM.

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Re: Bad diff, transmission, driveshaft axle, what? [Re: Nukeiridium] #1061272 07/05/13 05:19 AM
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Just an update - The smaller shop is estimating about $1000 less to do the same repair job. I think I am going to go ahead and have him do it, I honestly don't want to do the job myself right now and I want my Sportage back asap, and don't want to buy another car right now.

That first shop was just really high on their pricing. The guy I talked to on the phone sounded very coached and trained on how to deal with customers. Everything I said, any concerns I had about the costs etc, he sounded like he had an answer ready from some kind of script. It really turned me off, it's like he had been trained on how to talk customers into paying the high prices. At this new shop where the Sportage is now, the guy just sounds honest and straightforward, and his price estimates are so much lower. Screw that first place! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" />

The first transmission place was my dad's idea. At the time I had a bad feeling about it. The place is good at what they do but they are expensive. Around here they are sort of the Cadillac of transmission places and their prices are higher. This second place, with the lower prices, was recommended to us by an old neighbor who sells used cars. He takes all his used cars that need transmission work to this shop because the guy is honest and doesn't charge an arm and a leg. Should have taken it there first!

Last edited by Nukeiridium; 07/05/13 05:21 AM.

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Re: Bad diff, transmission, driveshaft axle, what? [Re: Nukeiridium] #1061273 07/09/13 07:55 PM
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Another update, I found a transmission on Ebay for $380 and free shipping, which seems like a great price to me. I hope it's not in bad shape. It has a 30 day warranty so we'll see.

Local wrecking yards and such wanted $650 for the transmission and I'd have to pick it up myself. The Ebay way is nice, I'm having it shipped directly to the shop.

I also am going to have the clutch replaced while he's in there. He said he won't charge any extra labor to do the clutch at the same time, I just need to buy the clutch kit.

Fingers crossed that there are no surprises, but if all goes well, having this new smaller shop do the job, WITH a new clutch, is going to cost about HALF what the big-name shop quoted for the job WITHOUT a new clutch. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Bad diff, transmission, driveshaft axle, what? [Re: Nukeiridium] #1061274 07/26/13 10:21 PM
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Got it back from the shop, total damage was about $1200 for a used transmission, installation, new U-joints, and a new clutch.

I didn't realize but this sportage has had bad u-joints since I bought it. There was excess play in the driveline which you could feel when switching from accelerating to decelerating, or sometimes when changing gears.

You may wonder why I didn't know this was a problem. Well, I thought all Sportages had sloppy drivelines like that, because before this I had another Sportage, and it was the same way. BOTH must have had worn U-joints but the joints on the first Sportage never started to vibrate.

Lesson learned, it was about a $1100 lesson... At least I paid only half what the first shop quoted me, and that quote did not include new clutch.


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