I always get hammered here for saying it, but buy a quality winch. Can you imagine buried to the frame with that chunk of iron?
You mean like this?
My X and two young kids 15 miles back in with ZERO hope of anyone getting to us. I might mention that my Sport was STILL sinking when this picture was taken. Had I not been able to get it out at this point, I'm not sure what shape it would have been in had we had to abandon it for the few days it would have taken to walk out and get help. Had it flooded again in the meantime, there wouldn't have been anything left to go back and get.
Lloyd, I NEVER hammer on you about this one. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I think this is the best advice you've given over the years and I'm right there with you.
On the 'some of you guys are more extreme wheelers' ... I heard a rumor a few years ago that some guy (family) lost their vehicle in Kane Creek trying to cross when flooded. Winch failed and the water went up. Time frame was '06-'08ish if I remember right. This is NOT extreme wheeling. Kane Creek is a two lane gravel county road where this was alleged to have happened and the vehicle wasn't a $100K crawler. I THINK is was a Cherokee or a 4-Runner, but don't quote me. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Winches are like insurance. You pay and pay and pay and probably never ever need it. Until you need it - and then you REALLY need it, and you never know when that'll be. If you don't have it, the consequences can be, how do you say, 'unpleasant'. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Something else of note is the attitude changes taking place at the local and federal government levels regarding rescue and recovery. Feds and local governments are taking the attitude that if they have to come rescue you, you'll be responsible for the ENTIRE government inflated costs of rescue and recovery. That can be tens of thousands of dollars - and if you think you can get out of it, think again. Its just like getting out of paying the IRS. Good luck with that. Anyway, ran across posting(s) on the NPS website a few weeks ago stating that if they deigned to come get you (eventually) you were responsible for ALL costs incurred. Actually ran across a snapshot of a brand new park service sign that warned of this.
This isn't new or they're thinking about it. Already happened in CO to people.
Oh, and 90% of my winching isn't to get me out. Its to get the guy out that's stuck blocking the only exit of the trail or fire road. Not a safety thing, but an annoyance. There is nothing like being parked for hours (days) waiting for someone to come along to get the guy in front of you out so you can go home. I've had this happen more then I care to think about and it sucks all the fun out of your day. Thankfully, I'm the guy that comes along with the winch. But I've heard a LOT of b$*%&ing from the guys stuck behind the guy waiting for six hours for someone to show up. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />