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Twin electric fans, #1076701 02/09/15 05:04 AM
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Weldedsporty Offline OP
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Yes I read the sticky on the e-fan conversion. I plan to buy 2 16" curved blades fans. 2300cfm each. I know how to wire up the e fan to replace the mechanical one.
However my stock fan in front of the radiator isn't working. Ac on full high, at operating temp, fan doesn't move. So I figure upgrading it would be good. However I'd like it to work like stock, on & off with the ac. But also be able to turn it on manual by flipping a switch. Can anyone help me through this?

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Re: Twin electric fans, [Re: Weldedsporty] #1076702 02/09/15 08:06 AM
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Ok guys so I rethought this a bit after posting. Going to use a 10" pusher & a 16" puller. A 16" pusher will cover my aux trans cooler and possibly over cool the trans. My trans fluid runs only to the aux cooler now. Doesn't flow through radiator anymore.

So after some searching the "pro comps" seem ok to use. Although I'll be using this guy for my pusher. Claims 2300cfm.. I don't know how true that is. But the place selling them is an actual shop that sells everything from oil filters to full 800+hp crate motors. I feel safe with it. Worst case it doesn't do enough and I return it for a bigger better spal or flex-a-lite.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/37122780605...49&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


For my pusher. I'll be using this guy. Again lifetime warranty from the same company. I do like that incase something goes wrong.
I may see if I can get a 12" to fit without cover my trans cooler. Fit the biggest possible would be the best.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPER-10-REVERSI...9c1&vxp=mtr


Now for the electrical. This is using a stock 192* tstat. Would I want a 200* on 185* off? Or a 210* on 190* off? I'll be tapping the sensor directly into the tstat housing like Everet did.
I will also be wiring this to a manual switch. That way I can turn it off for water crossings & on whenever I feel the need. To add to this, I'll be adding red led indicators to both fans, whenever they turn on the led will power up letting me know both fans are on & working.

The smaller pusher fan I'll just tap into the factory wiring. As well as add a switch to power it on & off manually. This way I can turn it on whenever I need on a trail to aid cooling.

Last edited by Weldedsporty; 02/09/15 08:07 AM.
Re: Twin electric fans, [Re: Weldedsporty] #1076703 02/10/15 06:47 AM
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Peabody Offline
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I installed electric fans on my Sporty. The large puller fan wasn't too much trouble. I was only able to mount one 10" pusher for the AC. And that's not working. But that might be due to the AC having issues. I did wire the puller fan to come on with the AC. So it's not like I don't have airflow when the AC is on (albeit, not working). AC aside, here's some issues you may encounter...

The height/thickness/depth of the fan can be an issue for both the puller and the pusher(s). A protruding puller fan will get pretty close to the pulley, and may be a trick to get around the thermostat housing when mounting. The depth of the pusher fan(s) can be more of a problem due to the front braces of the body in front of the radiator/AC unit. I had planned to mount two 10" fans, but couldn't get both to fit. So I opted to mount one where the stock fan mounts.

I opted to go with a simple thermal snap relay to control the big fan. It works fine and is an affordable solution - tried and true. I can look up the specs on the parts if you like. I bought them through amazon. So the orders should be easy to pull up, if needed.

Don't use the plastic zip ties to mount the big fan. The weight of it will pull the fan down. And the ties will tear out the cooling fins, which could create a leak in the core. Here's a link to the mount if made from aluminum angle . Food for thought...

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Re: Twin electric fans, [Re: Peabody] #1076704 02/11/15 04:32 AM
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Body Damage is Cool
Here is how I mounted mine and kept the shroud.

[img][image]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o214/evlu/DSC03210.jpg[/img][/image]

I don't know what pulley is in the way, because you should remove the whole bracket that the original belt driven fan was on. Then all you do is run a shorter belt to the alternator.

Look at the room you have when the bracket and pulley is removed.
[img][image]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o214/evlu/NEWALT019.jpg[/img][/image]

Just my 2 cents

Everet


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Re: Twin electric fans, [Re: Weldedsporty] #1076705 02/12/15 09:35 PM
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Weldedsporty Offline OP
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I intended to use my stock shroud as well. Probably removed the pulley.

What degree snap switch. I also want to use it, but need to figure out the correct temp range. My wether, SoCal, ranges from. 40* winters to 115* summers. Stock tstat temp being used is 192*.

I've found out I can fit a 12" pusher up front. & am keeping the same 16" puller.


One more question is, what is the CFM rating on your guys 16" fans. Should I worry about it with 2300cfm? Is that enough?

Re: Twin electric fans, [Re: Weldedsporty] #1076706 02/13/15 02:09 AM
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Peabody Offline
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I recommend you stay with the stock temp thermostat. You won't gain anything by having the thermostat open at a higher or lower temp - this based on my research of what others have done to the Sportage and other vehicles. You can actually create problems because the ECU is programmed to function with factory-spec'd sensors. I read some posts where changing the thermostat with a higher temp unit caused the ECU to kick codes, which ceased once a stock-temp thermostat was reinstalled.

Regarding the thermal relay, here's the unit I picked up on Amazon . It's rated for 180 degrees. I installed it through the radiator core, just below the upper hose, and trimmed off the excess probe so it wouldn't punch the AC condenser (the scrap piece making a good brass punch for roll pins and the like <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />). The relay allows you to wire it so it comes on with the AC to act as a booster fan, of sorts. I'm happy with it. But any comparable relay will do. Here's a link to an adjustable relay on Amazon. It's a few bucks more. But the rating is a bit higher than the one I'm running. Regarding functionality, my Sporty holds the same temp reading (needle position) on the factory gauge under all conditions - winter/summer, driving/stopped. The setup has been completely stable on my rig. But go with what you feel works best for you...

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1997 Sportage 4x4, auto-trans, Warn manual hubs, 4" UPYOURKIA front lift, TJ 106AA rear springs, 2-5/8" body lift, 31x10.50 treads, SmittyBilt SRC front and XRC rear bumper, swing-out tire mount, OBX LSD front diff, Track Finder rear locker, 5.38 R&Ps and... really crappy gas mileage! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />
Re: Twin electric fans, [Re: Everet] #1076707 07/21/15 04:40 AM
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Here is how I mounted mine and kept the shroud.

[img][image]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o214/evlu/DSC03210.jpg[/img][/image]

I don't know what pulley is in the way, because you should remove the whole bracket that the original belt driven fan was on. Then all you do is run a shorter belt to the alternator.

Look at the room you have when the bracket and pulley is removed.
[img][image]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o214/evlu/NEWALT019.jpg[/img][/image]

Just my 2 cents

Everet


I hate to bump a post from the dead, but could you tell me what fan you used for this? It's perfect and I'd love to copycat you.

Re: Twin electric fans, [Re: Blue91SL] #1076708 07/25/15 09:46 PM
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Everet Offline
Body Damage is Cool
16" from ebay.
Think I paid extra and got one that was 2500 cfm or 3000.
I'm currently switching to a 96 taurus 2 speed fan. Got it from pick and pull. Really moves a lot of air on high.
Still mounted it into the stock fan shroud. Using 3 relays so it will kick on with the AC. Going to mount in on a 2 row alum radiator off ebay.
Will let you know how it works out.
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