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Advice for a first time Montero SR Owner #1101492
06/11/16 03:35 PM
06/11/16 03:35 PM
M
MMeadows  Offline OP
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I live in portland Oregon and just bought a 97 montero sr. Its my daily driver and my off roader ( i only drive 5 miles to work) Im super excited about this car, it really holds its own against troopers and jeeps, and i loved how every dirt biker at browns camp said " you drove that up here?" Rear locker is sweet and really makes up for poor off road skills.

The car has 170k on it an i bought it from the original owner for 2k. Car looked like poop on the inside, but overall it runs smooth


1.) Can anyone recommend to me me a good tec manual ? Is Haynes the way to go?

2.) Car burns oil on acceleration but it seems to stop when the car is warmed up. Im thinking valve seals. Is this a common problem? Ive never worked on a Mitsubishi engine before, but i was not excited to hear i need to remove the plenum to change the spark plugs. Shop wants $1200 for new water pump, timing belt, valve seals, and all the other random gaskets involved. I think its a fair price, but im not excited about not working on my car. How tough is this job? Can you do it in a weekend?

3.) Overall the suspension seems solid, but that might just be because i have nothing to compare it to. Looks like the only real upgrade left out there is the OME upgrade, its $800+ with a new torsion bar. From what I've read online people who do the upgrade are happy. Any other options out there i dont know about or anyone thinking its not worth the upgrade?


4.) My car came without a spare tire, he said it was stolen off. So i had my room mate pick me up one off of a junker in corvallis, OR. But they guy did not include the bots to hold the tire on. Are they just 3 bolts that hold the tire on? What is the point of the handle and spring behind the spare tire mount? and did something bolt on to the holes on top at one point?

5.) Front bumper options? Looks like ARBs are hard to find and roughly 900 new for a gen II montero. Ive seen some people use ARB's off of XJ's and i think something else. What works best ? Anyone keep those silly windshield cleaners?

Last edited by MMeadows; 06/11/16 03:36 PM.

97 Montero SR: 2in body lift. 33" KM2

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Re: Advice for a first time Montero SR Owner [Re: MMeadows] #1101493
06/11/16 04:06 PM
06/11/16 04:06 PM
rxinhed  Offline
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Welcome to the Wire!

1. Download the factory service manual from Mitsubishilinks.com . . . Haynes is for building fires

2. Valve stem seals are commonly worn out at this mileage. Plan on two days if you're unfamiliar with the exact process for replacement of all the parts listed.

3. Unless you're going to rock crawl this Montero, or expect to fit 35" up tires, there is no need to worry about the suspension. At this point, remember about the differences between want and need.

4. You use regular lug nuts to match.

5. ARB and custom-made are the only sources for bumpers that I can recall, or adaptation of a bumper meant for another chassis. Ray (Off Roader) has some Wrangler-meant bumpers on his Gen II.



1988 Mighty Max turbo 2.6 service body
1980 Power Wagon W400
Sundry Mitsubishi Montero Gen 1 parts, Gen 1 and Gen 2 Max parts
Parts vehicles: 89 LS Montero 4-door, 2002 Sport AWD
For Sale: 1989 Power Ram 50 extended cab, #277 Montero
Re: Advice for a first time Montero SR Owner [Re: rxinhed] #1101494
06/11/16 05:02 PM
06/11/16 05:02 PM
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MMeadows  Offline OP
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Thank you for the link. Could you help guide me a little. There does not appear to be a FSM for 1997. I believe "mitsubishi_fsm_engines_1990-2002" would cover mine. But could you tell me what my engine code would be. (i.e. 4D6, 4G6, 6A12?)

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Last edited by MMeadows; 06/11/16 05:03 PM.

97 Montero SR: 2in body lift. 33" KM2

Re: Advice for a first time Montero SR Owner [Re: MMeadows] #1101495
06/11/16 06:03 PM
06/11/16 06:03 PM
ryany  Offline
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Your 97 is a Gen2, not a Gen2.5, so the most similar year to your vehicle will be a 96. However, you have the 6G74 3.5 SOHC engine, where the 94-96 SR has the DOHC version of that engine, so you'll need the engine info from a 97-2000 model.

As noted above, the FSM is by far the best source of repair info for your vehicle - Haynes and Chilton's manuals make great firestarters.

As noted above, the valve stem seals are a common issue on Mitsu engines, and can be replaced without removing the cylinder heads. If you're having a shop do the timing belt and associated parts, make sure to check that your engine has the updated crankshaft bolt and washer installed - if not, it needs to be done with the timing belt and torqued to the updated torque spec. Replace the timing belt tensioner when doing the timing belt - use an OEM Mitsubishi part only, the aftermarket parts seem to have a high failure rate.

A timing belt service is a great time to have the radiator rodded out by a radiator shop - reinstall it with a new OEM radiator cap and thermostat, and replace any cooling system hoses that aren't in great shape, and your cooling system will be good to go for another 60k miles. Checking the fan clutch for proper operation is a good idea as well - it should spin freely when cold but be almost locked to the engine when hot.

The "handle and spring" is actually a hook to hang the spare tire on while you install the lug bolts. I ended up buying some extra lug nuts and wheel studs, cut off the threaded portion of the studs and epoxied them into the lug nuts to create lug bolts to hold my spare on. Alternatively, you could use the same process to epoxy the studs on the tire carrier.

Your factory suspension is far more capable and comfortable than most any other 4x4, and really needs no modifications to be seriously competent off-road. Larger tires will give you a bit more ground clearance but you'll feel the difference in the amount of power it takes to turn them.

This forum has a huge amount of information within it's posts - some searching will give you much more information on everything mentioned above.

Last edited by ryany; 06/11/16 06:10 PM.

95 Montero SR 3.5
OME shocks & springs, cranked torsion bars, 2" body lift, 3" gas tank lift, 4.90 gears, Aussie front locker, factory rear locker, Aisin manual hubs, Roger Brown Rock Sliderz, 315/75r16 (35") BFG Mud-Terrain KM2s on 16x8 Eagle Alloys, custom 2 1/4" exhaust with Magnaflow muffler
Re: Advice for a first time Montero SR Owner [Re: MMeadows] #1101585
06/25/16 09:47 PM
06/25/16 09:47 PM
M
MMeadows  Offline OP
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Thank you for the reply and the handbook recommendation.

In regards to shocks and struts: I plan adding a arb bumper and winch in the front, ( not to mention rear bumper and roof rack) and fear I that the continuous additional weight might be bit much for stock suspension that looks original and must have 170k miles on it.

OEM shock shock $71.46
Arb shock (4wheel parts) $107-147
Old Man Emu (rocky-road) $107

My Plan is to replace my spark pugs and valve gaskets, and plenum gasket. I am considering changing my plug wires while i am in there, any thing else come to mind I should change? ALso looking at my intake manifold/ lower plenum, it looks like there are a bunch of washers under the nut, is this mean someone has taken my engine apart before and did a bad job putting it back together?


I plan on having a shop i trust change my water pump and timing belt. but to buy oem parts myself. I am considering buying the parts on mitsubishi parts wearhouse but wanted to know if the ebay kits are really oem parts? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Montero-V6-1997-1999-Full-Timing-Belt-Water-Pump-Kit-3-5L-Genuine-OEM-Parts-/160677074693?fits=Year%3A1997%7CMake%3AMitsubishi%7CModel%3AMontero%7CSubmodel%3ASR%7CEngine+-+Liter_Display%3A3.5L&hash=item2569199705:m:m_3UkHJYyF2Jo6fCfpICxrQ&vxp=mtr




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Last edited by MMeadows; 06/25/16 09:57 PM.

97 Montero SR: 2in body lift. 33" KM2

Re: Advice for a first time Montero SR Owner [Re: MMeadows] #1101586
06/25/16 10:49 PM
06/25/16 10:49 PM
rxinhed  Offline
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Posts: 7,140
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1988 Mighty Max turbo 2.6 service body
1980 Power Wagon W400
Sundry Mitsubishi Montero Gen 1 parts, Gen 1 and Gen 2 Max parts
Parts vehicles: 89 LS Montero 4-door, 2002 Sport AWD
For Sale: 1989 Power Ram 50 extended cab, #277 Montero
Re: Advice for a first time Montero SR Owner [Re: MMeadows] #1101599
06/26/16 10:40 PM
06/26/16 10:40 PM
M
MMeadows  Offline OP
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Joined: May 2016
Posts: 40
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Thank you for the OEM souces, it seems like my local dealrsship prices are comparable.

Can anyone tell me if im missing something for a spark plug and valvue cover gaksget change?

1x Plenum gaskget

6x spark plugs

1x set of new plug wires

2x valve cover gaskets

6x spark plug seals ( are these really $24.00 each?! do they need to be replaced?

Anything else?





97 Montero SR: 2in body lift. 33" KM2

Re: Advice for a first time Montero SR Owner [Re: MMeadows] #1101611
06/27/16 06:59 PM
06/27/16 06:59 PM
ryany  Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,508
Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by MMeadows

OEM shock shock $71.46
Arb shock (4wheel parts) $107-147
Old Man Emu (rocky-road) $107


If your vehicle has the factory adjustable shocks, then I don't think the price you're showing for the original Mitsubishi shocks is accurate - last time I checked they were around $200 each.


95 Montero SR 3.5
OME shocks & springs, cranked torsion bars, 2" body lift, 3" gas tank lift, 4.90 gears, Aussie front locker, factory rear locker, Aisin manual hubs, Roger Brown Rock Sliderz, 315/75r16 (35") BFG Mud-Terrain KM2s on 16x8 Eagle Alloys, custom 2 1/4" exhaust with Magnaflow muffler
Re: Advice for a first time Montero SR Owner [Re: MMeadows] #1101704
07/05/16 06:52 PM
07/05/16 06:52 PM
M
MMeadows  Offline OP
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Posts: 40
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i do not have adjustable shocks


97 Montero SR: 2in body lift. 33" KM2

Re: Advice for a first time Montero SR Owner [Re: MMeadows] #1101823
07/25/16 05:13 AM
07/25/16 05:13 AM
M
MMeadows  Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 40
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Changed my plugs , plug seals, valve cover gaskets. It took about 6 hours. It was in my opinion an very hard job. There is not real service manual online for this car. The link in the sticky is broken, did some google searches as well. The factory service manuel is horrible. Ive attached a picture of the instructions. These are very incomplete and does not really cover any of the wire harness, show you a firing order, tightening instructions. Just about every intake bolt has a bracket on it holding something. Definitely make a card board cut out to keep track of the bolts. There is a thread hole in the manifold and a hole in the gasket for a bolt but one does not go there, Must be from a different application.


Anyways my car wont start now. Kind of sucks. lol going to hope there is a forum that discusses firing order on the 3.5 sohc as the manual says nothing. I did try hard to keep them in order but its the only explanation for it not running. [Linked Image]

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Last edited by MMeadows; 07/25/16 05:13 AM.

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