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97 4Runner too Old to Keep? #1105042 06/05/19 03:17 PM
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
So I'm asking for advice from the most knowledgeable 4Runner people I know. I have asked questions before on this forum and have always received great feedback.
My question is: Do I continue to keep my 97 4Runner SR5 that has 199,000 miles and continue to invest money in it? I do all maintenance and repairs myself.I have read that it can go to 250,000 miles, but I'm not sure what that means in terms of parts replacement. I really love this vehicle. Its the best I have ever owned.
I use almost daily to work and to tow a small boat each year on vacation from NJ to northern Lake Champlain and as the mileage ramps up, I feel uneasy about using it with fear that something is going to fail on it (especially while on vacation!) I have owned it for 129,000 of the miles it has and meticulously maintained it. (new parts over the years: starter, radiator, timing belt, solenoids in transmission, rear axle seal, rotors, one fuel injector, plugs and ignition wires once)
It currently has steering wheel shimmy when it reaches 70 mph and also when I apply the brakes on a higher speed stop or coming down a steep hill. I have had this in the past and replaced the rotors / pads and it solved it for a time but it returns after a few months. Now I would like to replace the original calipers, rotors, pads and also the original front struts, even though the struts seem ok doing the "bumper bounce" test. I figure since the calipers and struts are original its time to replace them. Does anyone have similar or even higher mileage and any thoughts on what I may expect in terms of parts that may need replacement? Ball joints? Master cylinder?Alternator? How long do these darn things last???

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Re: 97 4Runner too Old to Keep? [Re: brink] #1105049 06/06/19 01:03 AM
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One of my friends has approaching 400K on a 4Runner V8, and still uses as his daily truck.

I would suggest starting to look at tie-rod ens, control arm bushings. Without question, your struts will be toast...bumper bounce works on oil damped shocks, not too well on your Toyota.

Do the maintenance. Keep the paid-off truck. Enjoy it.

My $0.02.


1988 Mighty Max turbo 2.6 service body
1980 Power Wagon W400
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Re: 97 4Runner too Old to Keep? [Re: brink] #1105054 06/06/19 02:48 AM
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I agree with rxinhed. I have a 99 4-runner with over 210K and it runs perfectly. I've had it for 7 years (bought it with 150K) and haven't had to do that much to it.

Put some money into the front end, but was still cheaper than a single months car payment. The tags, taxes and insurance are also less than a single months car payment, and that's with full coverage. Most expensive part I've had to replace was the catalytic converter. Did the install myself so it wasn't all that expensive either.

It's also our mine long distance driver, have no qualms about driving it any distance.

Hope this helps you out.


'87 GEN1 Dodge Raider 5-speed 2.6L w/ Weber (HAGAR)
'87 Ford Ranger STX 5-speed 2.9L V6
‘88 GEN1 Dodge Raider AT 2.6L w/ Weber (HELGA)
'95 Ford Bronco Eddy Bauer
'99 Toyota 4-Runner Limited 3" lift

WELCOME TO MY "USED" CAR LOT
Re: 97 4Runner too Old to Keep? [Re: Tuxedo_Ranch] #1105057 06/06/19 02:12 PM
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Thank you for the encouragement. I forgot that I did replace tie rod ends and steering rack bushings. As Tuxedo_Ranch points out the money I will be putting in my 4runner is less than a car payment. I got sticker shock when I saw what a new 4runner SR5 costs! Thank you rxinhed and Tuxedo_Ranch. You really helped me out! I will be ordering parts tonight.

Re: 97 4Runner too Old to Keep? [Re: Tuxedo_Ranch] #1105063 06/07/19 11:58 PM
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Ok I just watched a video on YouTube about replacing lower ball joints on 3rd gen 4runners. The mechanic said 3rd gen 4runners are notorious for failing lower ball joints even with low mileage. Is this true?

Re: 97 4Runner too Old to Keep? [Re: brink] #1105076 06/12/19 04:14 PM
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All years and models are "notorious" for some type of failure. The engine, transmission and transfer case are the most expensive components to repair.

As long as the frame is sound (not rusted or bent) suspension parts are relatively cheap to repair. Fix it and wheel it and enjoy the ride!

Re: 97 4Runner too Old to Keep? [Re: 4x4Wire] #1105077 06/13/19 12:02 AM
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
Thanks! I just received new rotors, pads,calipers, brake hoses, and struts.I am now committed to keep it it as long as I can. Many thanks to this website and folks like you!

Re: 97 4Runner too Old to Keep? [Re: brink] #1105087 06/14/19 06:59 PM
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Tuxedo_Ranch Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Keep it up, 4-Runner parts, Original and Aftermarket, are a lot easier to find than parts for my Raiders, so I make it up just the way you want it and hang on to it as long as it's viable.

Best of luck and be safe,

LTUX


'87 GEN1 Dodge Raider 5-speed 2.6L w/ Weber (HAGAR)
'87 Ford Ranger STX 5-speed 2.9L V6
‘88 GEN1 Dodge Raider AT 2.6L w/ Weber (HELGA)
'95 Ford Bronco Eddy Bauer
'99 Toyota 4-Runner Limited 3" lift

WELCOME TO MY "USED" CAR LOT
Re: 97 4Runner too Old to Keep? [Re: Tuxedo_Ranch] #1105110 06/19/19 11:09 PM
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Getting the Wheeling Fever
Originally Posted by Tuxedo_Ranch
Keep it up, 4-Runner parts, Original and Aftermarket, are a lot easier to find than parts for my Raiders, so I make it up just the way you want it and hang on to it as long as it's viable.

Best of luck and be safe,

LTUX

You guys are awesome. I knew I came to the right place. Thank you all.

Re: 97 4Runner too Old to Keep? [Re: Tuxedo_Ranch] #1105111 06/22/19 09:50 PM
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Well.......I need some advice. Today I replaced front struts. (Old ones were shot), calipers, rotors, pads, and rubber brake hoses to each caliper. Also found a pin hole leak in the drivers side metal brake line, three inches up from the rubber hose connection, there was a bubble in the line's coating and sure enough a leak started as I was bleeding the DS caliper. Just what I needed to find a few weeks before taking my trip to Northern Vermont. Now I'll be worrying about all the other brake lines!!! I installed a new 12" line ( at least it was the shortest line).
Before I started the work, I did my best to flush the brake lines stating at PS rear, then DS rear, then PS,the DS. Old fluid really wasn't so bad. I picked up a vacuum bleeder from HF, although when I used it there always seems to be some streams of bubbles in the bleed hose. Not sure if this is from the vacuum.
After bleeding with all new parts, the brake pedal gets pretty solid, but when I start the engine the pedal goes down about halfway. This is where is has been since I can remember, but I thought after installing all new parts, the pedal would be higher even with engine running. Am I missing something?
I read online that the key may need to be ON while flushing. Also read the engine should be running. And also read engine OFF, Key OFF and just bleed farthest wheel to closet which is what I did and always have done to my Ranger and other vehicles, no key on, no engine running and then I used a bottle and helper in the vehicle.
Am I doing it correctly for the 97 4runner?
Any help on this is greatly appreciated.

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