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Re: Monty upgrade ideas wanted [Re: 4x4Wire] #1103602 07/22/17 07:24 PM
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MMeadows Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
I know this is an old post but no one makes a Gen II bumper f( front or rear) Arb is discontinued and never really fit with the fender flares anyways.... smile


97 Montero SR: 2in body lift. 33" KM2

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Re: Monty upgrade ideas wanted [Re: 4x4Wire] #1103999 11/29/17 06:21 AM
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Wheeler
Aluminum drawers in a box, same height as wheel humps, drilled to bolt to factory seat and tie-down threaded holes. bolt tiedowns to the top. Allow for optional plywood deck to go all the way across. maybe a hi-lift mount on the side, it'll fit between the box and the fender.

Oh, how about a bracket that replaces the idler pulley on the 2.6 and fits up a York compressor and a belt tensioner? Or just a blank bracket with a centered shaft hole and base holes/slots to adjust alignment.


87 Dodge Raider 5sp 2.6l no jet valves, Tuffpan
OME Dakar leaf springs + T-bar crank + 2" body lift (4" lift).
5500lb winch, Starion alternator, grp31 marine bat'
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Re: Monty upgrade ideas wanted [Re: 4x4Wire] #1105402 12/15/19 07:59 PM
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DosXGreen Offline
Need a Spot
Hello everyone, I am new to this forums but also sort of new to the history of the Mitsubishi Montero. It was back in 2002 or so when I first stopped and looked into the great shapes and beauty of these SUVs and started imagining myself driving a lifted 4x4 Montero out into freedom from work and family issues even if it was for just a few hours or a few days.. Today I own 3 different Monteros; a 2001 XLS, a 2003 20th Anniversary edition and a 2001 Limited that I bought for parts. I guess my question has to do with how does my two categories of models fall into the GEN1, GEN2 and GEN3 and mostly related to parts porting from one to the other? Right now as far as keeping building my 2003 I've been thinking about looking for a newer engine from any car that uses the 3.8L engine as is the case of the 2003-2006. Other than the size of the engine or the ECU comparability what else should I be looking for? I have also an option of bringing this car to Mexico and make an engine swap from one of the newer 2011 or 2015 newer Monteros but I am pretty sure I am getting into more trouble than I want to handle just to get a newer engine with less miles on it. Again, I want to use this Montero to do a lot of things to it but if the engine keeps doping oil and has all these vacuum noises and even worse the lack of power you need to go full off road, what gives?


Sincerely,

Dos~Equiz
Re: Monty upgrade ideas wanted [Re: DosXGreen] #1106451 08/26/21 05:16 PM
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OldColt Offline
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Welcome to the Wire,
What you have are Gen3. All the versions before yours are body on frame with a solid rear axle on trailing arms, well Leaf springs for the Gen1 4cyl that we first got in the early '80s. The front suspension is double arm with torsion bars, steering is old school recirculating ball rather than the rack & Pinion as you have. Basically, they are trucks.

As you know your two early ones have a 3.5L engine, 4 speed auto with 4.9 gear ratio.
Your 2003 has the 3.8L, 5 speed auto and 4.3 gear ratio.

Parts from the previous Monteros or it's cousin the Montero Sport have very little compatibility.

In the Gen3 there was a period with failing head gaskets with the 3.5 engine, that supposedly was cured on the 3.8, but then the intake has "butterfly valves" which are prone to failing and have a rather long history of doing so. Just removing the vacuum line from the actuator will disable them to the open position and all but eliminate the possibility of failure.
The swap to the 4th gen engine will require a wire harness change as well, not necessarily easy for most people. Not to mention compatibility with US emission test might not be easy.

In country engines, the car 3.8L engines have higher compression and provide more power. The engine block has some differences where the mount brackets attach which with the alloy brackets on the Gen3 may be a bit frustrating since not all bolt positions are cast into the block. It can be done though. The factory ECU can be programmed as needed but not sure how hard to find a tuner.


Cheers, Charlie
If It ain't broke, Modify it!
87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: Monty upgrade ideas wanted [Re: 4x4Wire] #1106452 08/27/21 09:21 AM
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OldColt Offline
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One thing to add here, one simple thing that might be worth the effort is to swap a set of the 4.9 differentials into your '03. Not sure if either of you early ones have the limited slip in them or not.


Cheers, Charlie
If It ain't broke, Modify it!
87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: Monty upgrade ideas wanted [Re: 4x4Wire] #1106531 11/13/21 11:14 PM
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matseel Offline
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I will second http://www.adventuredrivendesign.com/. They rock! I have no affiliation with them. Excellent customer service. Parts described accurately, no surprises!


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Re: Monty upgrade ideas wanted [Re: 4x4Wire] #1106532 11/15/21 02:51 AM
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rxinhed Offline
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^^ Haven't seen a first, for a long time.

Keep the old threads alive, guys

Re: Monty upgrade ideas wanted [Re: 4x4Wire] #1106635 03/11/22 12:30 AM
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keetz Offline
Need a Spot
All of my suggestions will be for the gen 1, since that's what I'm driving and know about.

I'd love to see custom guages available for the middle cluster on the Gen 1s - or at least replacements - someone took my inclinometer before I bought mine so there's just a missing spot on my guage cluster where it should be - and I can't find anything to fit exactly but I really want to have my inclinometer.

I'd also like a revised middle console to make a little better use of that space and extend the top door/pad out a little bit.


Third - I think the trailer hitch is available but they seem hard to find - something to replace that standard shackle (i know they recalled the factory hitch but that still doesn't help me hook up to a ball hitch)

Fourth - a manual lock on the back door that you can retrofit on the automatics - it's annoying that when that actuator or relay goes out, you don't have a way to lock the back door because they hid the mechanism behind the door panel.

Fifth - auto hub replacements - it's great that I can swap them out for a manual hub but what if i want to keep my auto locking setup that came factory? Right now I'm SOL if it breaks.

Sixth- third row stow seats for the gen 1 would be nice - like they had for the gen 2 and for the really early non-U.S. gen 1 pajeros.

Seventh - reproductions of the Gen 1 seat mounts and adjustment hardware. If anything breaks on these, you're pretty much SOL since they don't make em anymore and you can't find them in junkyards anymore either. I would pay $300-$400 per seat to have the seat suspension experience that I would have gotten from the factory. Someone took the mechanical adjustment pieces from my driver seat before I bought mine and just left me with the mounting frame and sadness for what could have been every time I get in the seat.

eight - BUT THIS SHOULD BE FIRST!!! PLEASE MAKE REPAIR PATCHES FOR THE REAR END OF THE FRAME RAILS!!!!! they make them for all of the other 4x4 suvs from this era EXCEPT mitsubishi - and we rust just the same way 80's toyotas do. Why are we left out of the frame repair game?!?!?


Last edited by keetz; 03/11/22 12:33 AM.
Re: Monty upgrade ideas wanted [Re: 4x4Wire] #1106645 03/14/22 06:00 PM
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keetz Offline
Need a Spot
Nix on the manual lock comment (#4) on my previous reply - I didn't see a manual locking mechanism on my back door because someone in it's past removed it - so where the little slider should have sat was just the plate it attaches to. They also conveniently removed the sticker that would have said "lock/unlock" with the arrows to ensure nobody would suspect there should be lock mechanism there. So no need to create a retro fit back lock - I just needed to fix mine.

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