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...to get a new 22re...options to choose from.. #18581
02/04/03 12:59 AM
02/04/03 12:59 AM
hubsj  Offline OP
Wheeler
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 245
Martinsburg WV
If my engine is in the shape I think its in (post _22re making horrible noise) then I will be looking for a new engine.

Bored...ect. as opposed to a standard set-up..

those of you who know..let me know what I should/can do!


88 4runner 22re 5spd 30x9.5 bfg AT
daily driver - weekly off roader.
284,400= Jasper - hello 5th gear!
true Thorley Header - V6 3rd
Valid inspection sticker (289,000)
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Re: ...to get a new 22re...options to choose from.. #18582
02/04/03 01:17 AM
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Rob a bank and order a LC Engineering EFI Pro setup. Its expensive, but nice. Used to have on in my '90, dug it a lot. Thinking about putting one in my '87, unless I get the 350 bug...-PhattieD

Re: ...to get a new 22re...options to choose from.. #18583
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Re: ...to get a new 22re...options to choose from.. #18584
02/04/03 06:00 AM
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LC Engineering is definately your best bet, they have a fairly decent warranty and are a fine peice of machinery. DOA racing engines is actually mostly LC Engineering's stuff sold under their name. pick up a "4 wheel drive" magazine they just did a good article on this exact engine. or check their website if they have already published a new mag, anyways keep researching and see if you can find a good mechanic in your area, he might know a good supplier, but dont trust it if its something he is affiliated with, a rebuild is almost as good as a new one and a lot cheaper if you choose that road. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Re: ...to get a new 22re...options to choose from.. #18585
02/04/03 07:23 AM
02/04/03 07:23 AM
hubsj  Offline OP
Wheeler
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 245
Martinsburg WV
short block... long block what is the difference.

looking for cheapest solution <img border="0" alt="[Barf]" title="" src="graemlins/barf.gif" />


88 4runner 22re 5spd 30x9.5 bfg AT
daily driver - weekly off roader.
284,400= Jasper - hello 5th gear!
true Thorley Header - V6 3rd
Valid inspection sticker (289,000)
Re: ...to get a new 22re...options to choose from.. #18586
02/04/03 09:28 AM
02/04/03 09:28 AM
Esquire812  Offline
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Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,688
Port Orchard, Washington
Didnt I tell you in the other post that LC and DOA are spendy! lol Like I said, unless you are looking to go out and challenge Chevelles you dont need that kind of specialty rebuild. As I suggested before, do a search online. Yahoo gives a pretty good list of rebuilders that ship all over. Take a look locally and see if you can find a machine shop that builds and stocks engines. Jasper engines remanufactures the 22R-E and has a great warranty but still around $2000. **A short block: Block, crankshaft, connecting rods and pistons. Along with the necessary bearings and rings etc. Essentially its an assembled version of what you would get rebuilding your own. You install the head, timing, oil pump, pan and manifolds from old engine. My short block came with a new oil pump and full gasket set.
Long Block: Shortblock plus the cylinder head, timing kit and cover already bolted on. Some will include the oil and water pumps, others wont. Essentially you just bolt on your intake and exhaust and its ready to roll.
Last year (Dec 01') I paid $659 for mine with exchange on the spot. Do some searching and alot of inquiring. There is an outfit out of California that sells rebuilt 22R (22RE) long blocks for $999 no exchange. If you have one of those "little nickel" newspapers in your area...look in there for other possible sources. If you werent on the wrong coast I would hook you up persoanally! lol. I'll dig around in the morning for the quotes I got last year and send them to you. ~Darin <img border="0" alt="[Baby]" title="" src="graemlins/baby.gif" />


88' 4x4 *22R-EB Gen II*
87' $Runner *22R-EB Gen I*
85' Sillyca 22R-Esq

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Re: ...to get a new 22re...options to choose from.. #18587
02/04/03 10:47 AM
02/04/03 10:47 AM
Frankenyota  Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,257
Tacoma, Washington
Well I for one don't think any rebuilder, even the really expen$ive ones like LCE can match the fantastic factory build quality of the 22RE. I would start hitting the local jukyards and if that doesn't work use an online junkyard search engine to find a low mileage engine. I found my 60K miles 1991 22RE absolutely complete for $800 shipped, which beats the crap out of a $2K Jasper rebuild IMHO. There really are some low mile motors out there, just make sure to look em over really good or if you can't get a warranty, I did, and it was included with the cost of the motor. Check this place out:
Car-Part.com
How many rebuilds have 200-500K miles on them? Exactly, stick with what works.....


1986 4X4, 1991 22RE, 5.71 gears,ARB Rear, aux fuel tank, 3mm O/S TB/intake, engnbldr cam, LCE header, magnaflow w/2.25 exh. custom 4 color paint job :-P 33X12.5 Goodyear MT/Rs
Re: ...to get a new 22re...options to choose from.. #18588
02/04/03 03:43 PM
02/04/03 03:43 PM
Red_Chili  Offline
Toyota Section Staffer
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,986
Littleton, CO
Not to ding the factory build, but my Jasper works. And I know what kind of oil and use it has seen since the build, and a 75K warranty is worth it to me. But a boneyard motor is definitely the least spendy.


-Bill
'87 4Runner w/ '96 5VZ-FE, 'Red Chili II'
'97 Taco XtraCab 3RZ-FE, 'BlackBean'
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"He who stops being better stops being good." -Oliver Cromwell
Re: ...to get a new 22re...options to choose from.. #18589
02/04/03 03:51 PM
02/04/03 03:51 PM
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Anonymous
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Under the exact same circumstances, I got my long block here, http://midatlanticengines.com/specials.htm
and it has not been as reliable as I would like. It blew oil out of the filter twice then we found the oil pump was sticking open. Fixed by warranty. Then found oil was leaking from the timing housing and the main seal because it blew those out, just picked up from the housing fix but will need to do the seal. The guys who put the engine in are still saying I should have gotten a Jasper. I can see the savings of finding a low miles engine in a yard, but then you never know what's wrong with it and you don't have a warranty. Not to mention, you'll still have an old unrebuilt engine after another 60,000 and you may be in the same noisy spot.

If you don't have the cash I'd go for the junker engine - if you have the time to find it, if you've got some money then get the jasper (they quoted me $3000 for a 22re), if you have a lot of money grab the LCE or DOA ($5000+). Maybe Incorporate your own work according to your own experience, I'm not an engine capable person.

You sure it's not just your timing chain?
GL!

Re: ...to get a new 22re...options to choose from.. #18590
02/04/03 05:59 PM
02/04/03 05:59 PM
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Entropy  Offline
Wheeler
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 188
Salem, WI USA
Seriously, your best bet is a low mileage engine...

With that said, I got mine from Enginefactory.com.

It should have cost me 1500 but I got it for a lot less because of a mistake they made when we made our agreement... to give them credit, they stuck to their word and at half the price of the motor.

They didn't build the motor, and from what little bits I caught from the guy, they were getting it from overseas.

In any case, I took a lot of pictures of it when I got it... other than the fact that they didn't re-tap the holes after painting (which I had to do) I was (and still am) very happy with the motor.

The only thing I have had to do is readjust a valve on the number one cylinder by a couple thousandths.

Here are the pics... http://www.uglyknob.com/Vehicles/Truck/Engine/


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