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1980s Toyota Van same 4x4 suspension as pick-up?? #368427
12/25/03 02:12 AM
12/25/03 02:12 AM
Brian894X4  Offline OP
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I'm just curious if the Toyota vans made in the mid to late 1980s use the same 4WD IFS suspension as the pick-ups? I hear the motors are the same and they use solid rear axles and have 4WD. Someone who owns one of these, was telling me that the front torsion bar / A-arm IFS suspension is exactly the same as the trucks. I wonder if the front diffs are the same too?

If that's true, seems like it would be fun rig to put a bit of a lift on and put some bigger tires. Kind of make it into something similier to a Land Rover forward control. Wouldn't be a great rock crawler, but might make a nice 4WD camping rig.

Anyone know of any info or pictures of a lift/modified Toyota van?


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Re: 1980s Toyota Van same 4x4 suspension as pick-up?? [Re: Brian894X4] #368428
12/25/03 02:43 AM
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Here some pics in case anyone doesn't know what they look like. Add a minor lift, some taller tires, lower gears and a locker or two and.....

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Re: 1980s Toyota Van same 4x4 suspension as pick-up?? [Re: Brian894X4] #368429
12/25/03 02:48 AM
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not sure, is that a photo chopped image? or real? werent some previas 4x4s as well?

but i had a "electronic 4 wheel drive" ford aerostar that i wish i had as a more knowledgeable car person... would have been cool with some muds on it

Re: 1980s Toyota Van same 4x4 suspension as pick-up?? #368430
12/25/03 03:46 AM
12/25/03 03:46 AM
mainer  Offline
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yes some of the previas were 4x4, i have one and i had another one before this one. they are awd so they have no low-range. gets great gas at 22mpg and are awesome in the snow. sold the last one with 205,000 on it, and my uncle has an older 2wd van like pictured about with 245,000 on it. and he pretty much lives out of it while traveling.


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Re: 1980s Toyota Van same 4x4 suspension as pick-up?? [Re: Brian894X4] #368431
12/25/03 03:58 AM
12/25/03 03:58 AM
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the 1984-1989 toyota 4wd vans are part-time 4x4's. they come with a 2 speed transfer case (hi and lo).

the motors are not the same as the pick-ups. the engine models are the 3YEC and the 4YEC.

they do have torsion bars. have a solid rear axle with a 7.5 inch ring gear. i think the front differential is completely different. there is no real frame though. it's a semi-unibody construction.

btw i have a 2wd 1987 van. it's cavernous. i can carry a 4x8 sheet of plywood inside the van.

but the website to check out is www.toyotavans.org. i think they are thinking about organizing a van rally. these guys offroad their vans.

Last edited by vrooooom; 12/25/03 04:16 AM.

stock 1994 Toyota 4x4 XtraCab v6 SR5 pickup
Re: 1980s Toyota Van same 4x4 suspension as pick-up?? [Re: vrooooom] #368432
12/25/03 04:01 AM
12/25/03 04:01 AM
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There was one I saw a while back at a gas station. It had the red Asian manual hubs on it, so I guess some have selectable 4wd.

Re: 1980s Toyota Van same 4x4 suspension as pick-up?? [Re: Brian894X4] #368433
12/25/03 04:06 AM
12/25/03 04:06 AM
dknight  Offline
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Brian,
Diffs and axles are different. The rear is aparently
very similar to a 4x2 PU rear (7.5" diff, 5 lug). The front is something smaller and different. There is a Toy 4wd discussion board
http://vanforum.netfirms.com/cgi-bin/pro/simpleforum_pro.cgi
where you could get more info...
David

Re: 1980s Toyota Van same 4x4 suspension as pick-up?? [Re: dknight] #368434
12/25/03 04:55 AM
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Kinda off the subject but they had one of those at a wreaking yard here and i was looking at it some parts are the same as the P/u what i thought was real cool was it had a Factory Toyota refrigerator I was going to get it and figure out how to hook it up in the rear of my 4runner but never went back to get it . I do know that the door handles are the same <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: 1980s Toyota Van same 4x4 suspension as pick-up?? #368435
12/25/03 08:58 AM
12/25/03 08:58 AM
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Yes, that refigerator would be very cool. I'm going to have to check my local wrecking yards now.

I saw the factory manual posted on that sight. How nice. Would be really cool, if we could have that same resource with pick-up/4Runner manuals on line. Nobody here would ever have to rely on a Haynes manual again!

In looking a the manual, it appears Toyota copied the basic design of the 4x4 IFS pick ups, but make some changes. It also uses rack and pinion steering as opposed to the ball steering in the pick-up. The front diff is obviously different, but the design is similier to the pick-up IFS diff and I'll be it uses the same carrier and even the same side axle flanges. They appear identical to the pick-up stuff. I'll even wager than the axle half shafts are the same.

If it had a full frame, it would be cool rig to modify, but I wouldn't want nothing to do with any partial frame/unibody rig. I'm sure it was a great AWD daily driver, but not what I had hoped for. Oh well.


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Re: 1980s Toyota Van same 4x4 suspension as pick-up?? [Re: Brian894X4] #368436
12/25/03 07:50 PM
12/25/03 07:50 PM
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NY
Can you say "body swap"?

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