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OEM Brakes vs. Bendix, Raybestos #502247 09/15/04 09:14 PM
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ACES_HI Offline OP
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Im replacing the front pads, rotors, and calipers on '90 4x4. Are OEM parts superior to Bendix or Raybestos? Im trying to decide on wether to have the Stealership(OEM), MONRO(Bendix) or GOODYEAR(Raybestos) do the work, depending on which parts are better. The cost is $720-$780 between them. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />


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Re: OEM Brakes vs. Bendix, Raybestos [Re: ACES_HI] #502248 09/15/04 10:06 PM
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MarkD Offline
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I just replaced the rotors and pads, rebuilt the calipers, and repacked wheel bearings about a week ago. I used OEM pads and brembo rotors. I think I had Raybestos pads before and they seemed to work okay. I have heard many warnings about using cheapy rotors (more prone to warp), but I honestly do not know how the Raybestos stack up. I know my brakes are as smooth as glass with the Brembo rotors, though.


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Re: OEM Brakes vs. Bendix, Raybestos [Re: MarkD] #502249 09/15/04 10:24 PM
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I just replaced the rotors and pads, rebuilt the calipers, and repacked wheel bearings about a week ago. I used OEM pads and brembo rotors. I think I had Raybestos pads before and they seemed to work okay. I have heard many warnings about using cheapy rotors (more prone to warp), but I honestly do not know how the Raybestos stack up. I know my brakes are as smooth as glass with the Brembo rotors, though.


Thanks for the input. I have heard that aftermarket pads/rotors will cause premature warping of the rotors and brake squeal. Thats why Im questioning aftermarket quality.


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Re: OEM Brakes vs. Bendix, Raybestos [Re: ACES_HI] #502250 09/15/04 10:40 PM
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a lot of aftermarket pads are very hard and wear away the rotor rather than the pad. (that's why the pad manufacturers are willing to give "lifetime warranties" on the pads.)

man, $700+ to replace just the front rotors/pads/calipers...i think i'll quit programming computers and start doing brake jobs for a living.

you might want to consider doing it yourself...it's really not that hard. there might be a write up in the tech section on how to do it. if you have questions, post them here, and you will get help.

you could do it using OEM parts for about $300 or so:

-OEM pads ~ $40
-remanufactured OEM calipers from Advance Auto ~ $35 each (total $70)
-OEM rotors ~ $100 each (total $200)

you can prolly get cheaper parts if you don't stick to OEM, but i would suggest sticking to OEM.

(i've replaced the pads and calipers on my truck...took about 1/2 hour per side. i have not replaced the rotors on my toy, but i have on other vehicles...not that big a deal usually.)

anyway, good luck. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

stan


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Re: OEM Brakes vs. Bendix, Raybestos [Re: Stan_Marshall] #502251 09/15/04 11:07 PM
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Replace the front calipers and pads (and pins! argh!) for $250 CAD... but i did it myself in auto class.
I have ray's in mine, they seem to do the job (my brakes work amazingly).


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Re: OEM Brakes vs. Bendix, Raybestos [Re: Greg_Canada] #502252 09/16/04 03:02 AM
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Staceman Offline
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OEM pads and the Bremdo rotors. Still smooth as glass on my '85 pickup after 2 1/2 years in Phoenix. I wouldn't go any other setup for brakes. No dusty wheels either!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />


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Re: OEM Brakes vs. Bendix, Raybestos [Re: MarkD] #502253 09/16/04 03:07 AM
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MAC Offline
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Hi Mark, Where did you buy your brembo rotors and what did they cost ya. I just put on a set of Chinese numbers (my friend owns a repair garage and he said he has had no problems with the recent Chinese ones. (said when they first hit the market they were junk, but now they OK). Against my better judgement I went Chinese. I have not experienced the brakes yet as I still have to bleed the system as I had the calipers off. It was rainy for a few days and these things look like they became pitted already.

Re: OEM Brakes vs. Bendix, Raybestos [Re: ACES_HI] #502254 09/16/04 02:11 PM
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foxtrapper Offline
Body Damage is Cool
The job is pretty easy to do yourself, so I'd consider doing that instead of paying someone else.

OEM components are excellent.
Raybestos pads and shoes are junk imo. I've had several come apart on me, as well I've melted a set. The friction material is poorly cut and poorly fitted onto the backing plate. Their rotors are prone to hard spots (pulsing pedal).

Bendex is a step up from Raybestos, but no further. While the company does make excellent equipment for some applications, their oem automotive replacement parts are not.

Re: OEM Brakes vs. Bendix, Raybestos [Re: MAC] #502255 09/16/04 02:52 PM
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MarkD Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
I got both the Brembo rotors ($34 ea.) and the OEM pads ($38) at European Automotive. Any order over $50 gets free shipping and, of course, no sales tax. I haven't been able to find these parts much cheaper anywhere else. One thing I noticed when I got my Bembo rotors from them was that on the actual Brembo packaging the Toyota part number was listed. These rotors are specifically designed for only Toyotas - pretty cool for a non-dealership part. From everything I've heard on this board, the Brembo's are at least as good as OEM.

One item to note after I did the brake job: my brakes did drag slightly for about the first 50 miles. I've heard this is normal when you have brand new rotors and pads. Everythings ok now, though.

Last edited by MarkD; 09/16/04 05:39 PM.

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Re: OEM Brakes vs. Bendix, Raybestos [Re: MarkD] #502256 09/16/04 04:44 PM
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ACES_HI Offline OP
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I got both the Brembo rotors ($34 ea.) and the OEM pads ($38) at European Automotive. Any order over $50 gets free shipping and, of course, no sales tax. I haven't been able to find these parts much cheaper anywhere else. One thing I noticed when I got my Bembo rotors from them was that on the actual Brembo packaging the Toyota part number was listed. These rotors are specifically designed for only Toyotas - pretty cool for a non-dealership part. From everything I've heard on this board, the Brembo's are at least as good as OEM.

One item to note after I did the brake job: my brakes did brake slightly for about the first 50 miles. I've heard this is normal when you have brand new rotors and pads. Everythings ok now, though.


Thanks for the tip Mark, I just ordered calipers, rotors and pads from European Automotive Specialists and saved $210
over what the stealership charges. The funny thing is that the dealer quoted me the same suggested retail prices listed on the EAS website which EAS discounts aggressively. This tells me that Im getting the same exact parts for way less! Shippings free and no tax either! Thanks again! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


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'90 x-cab 22RE stock
'82 Hilux 6" lift (ACES HI)
'82 2-Hiluxs' Rally Edition (parts)
'81 Hilux 3" lift (parts/restore)
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