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#574700 - 04/27/09 04:28 AM Re: ELECTRIC FAN - INSTALLATION *** [Re: ChrisB]  
Everet  Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,224
Silicon Valley, CA
I use a SPAL FAN-PWM.
Or, you could put a snap switch in (on @ 200f off @ 185f). Just have the snap switch trigger a relay. Pretty simple. I've done both and the snap switch works good and it's a lot cheaper than the SPAL.

You can mount the snap switch by installing it in the thermostat housing. There is an extra area that one can drill and tap.
If you decide to do it, take pictures and let us know how it works.
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#574701 - 04/30/09 07:17 AM Re: ELECTRIC FAN - INSTALLATION [Re: Everet]  
fokion  Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,476
Athens Greece
Nope ( to answer if it runs all the time )
In the lower hose I have put an cooper adapter and a thermo switch on it that triggers the relay and turns on the fan

see the photow on the original post
in tha free area on the thermo housing I have installed the pickup for the addon thermometer I have installed since the original one passes the midle area seconds before the engine explodes..


'96 4d mechanicaly stock so far, rims, spoiler, Cooper AT tyres, Factory LSD, Manual Warn Hubs, handmade exaust, ELECTRIC FAN!!! 3,1'' Lift, PALM GPS
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#574702 - 07/31/09 01:21 AM Re: ELECTRIC FAN - INSTALLATION [Re: fokion]  
budicexxx  Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 89
New Brunswick, Canada
just a quick question i noticed the pulley on the clutch fan has to be changed when removing and installing a electric fan right..Have to find a another pulley to match....right...thanks in advance


2001 sporty, tj rear springs with rav4 shocks, ford alloys machined centers with 30x9.5x15, front spacers. more upgrades to come.

#574703 - 07/31/09 03:17 AM Re: ELECTRIC FAN - INSTALLATION [Re: budicexxx]  
Dryver  Offline
Wheeler
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 146
Stow, OH
Actually, you can completely remove the pulley and bracket and run with a shorter alternator belt.


01 Convertible; Electric Fan; 3" Up Your Kia lift spacers; Tj 104's; 31x10.5x15's on Centerlines; Rear LSD.
GONE, all I have left are a few spare parts and the wheels.

#574704 - 07/31/09 03:35 AM Re: ELECTRIC FAN - INSTALLATION [Re: Dryver]  
budicexxx  Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 89
New Brunswick, Canada
Isnt the water pump on that pulley. I have a 2001 with the 2 l.


2001 sporty, tj rear springs with rav4 shocks, ford alloys machined centers with 30x9.5x15, front spacers. more upgrades to come.

#574705 - 07/31/09 03:50 AM Re: ELECTRIC FAN - INSTALLATION [Re: budicexxx]  
Everet  Offline
Body Damage is Cool
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Posts: 1,224
Silicon Valley, CA
Water pump is run off timing belt. Fan pulley is attached to an idler bearing. Remove it, bracket and all, so you have more room.
Belt # is 4K335. Don't know brand.
Show us some pics of your work.
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#574706 - 08/04/09 12:15 PM Re: ELECTRIC FAN - INSTALLATION [Re: budicexxx]  
fokion  Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,476
Athens Greece
The water pump is on the Cam belt.


'96 4d mechanicaly stock so far, rims, spoiler, Cooper AT tyres, Factory LSD, Manual Warn Hubs, handmade exaust, ELECTRIC FAN!!! 3,1'' Lift, PALM GPS
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#574707 - 11/24/09 02:28 PM Re: ELECTRIC FAN - INSTALLATION [Re: fokion]  
Nukeiridium  Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,136
Mesa, Arizona
Just a word of warning:

I had a Spal fan-pwm which I was happy with. I had to transfer it from my old wrecked Sportage to my new one, and unfortunately, in the process one of the connectors got damaged. The connectors that come with the SPAL are not very rugged, especially the pins which appear to be made of very thin metal. One of the pins got somewhat smashed and wasn't making a good connection.

Long story short, in the process of disconnecting it to fix the bent pin, a little plastic tab on the connector that had become brittle broke off. The plastic of the connectors is cheap and gets really brittle from being under the hood. It was the connector that carries +12v and ground from the battery, and Ignition. Well, the way the connector is designed, if the plastic tab breaks off (which it can easily do just from unplugging the connection) then the connection will fit backwards. How do I know? Dumb me, I plugged it in backwards. I didn't even notice the tab was missing. ZAP!

The Spal fan-pwn is now dead, and when I emailed Spal from their website asking if they repair them, I got no response.

So anyway, be careful with those connectors, they are somewhat fragile after they have been under the hood a while, and the unit does not have reverse polarity protection, if you hook it up wrong it WILL kill it.

I ordered a Spal fan-pwn v3 to replace it, we'll see if it's any improvement over the old one. Meanwhile while I wait for it to come in the mail, where the fan-pwm used to be, I just temporarily wired in a relay that runs the fan whenever ignition is on. Funny thing, even with the stock thermostat, having the fan running constantly caused a trouble code to pop up saying that the thermostat was set too low! lol...

Last edited by Nukeiridium; 11/24/09 02:31 PM.

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#574708 - 12/30/09 11:30 AM Re: ELECTRIC FAN - INSTALLATION [Re: Nukeiridium]  
BAZINGA  Offline
Wheeler
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 167
Denmark, Western Australia
What are the pros and cons of swapping to an electric fan system?
I can't see the benefit of swapping. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


99 Auto Sportage. Wildcat Extractors, Lukey Turbo Muffler, Warn manual hubs, K&N Air filter, Tyres 30/9.5/15, Ironman 40mm springs, KYB front struts & rear shocks, GME TX3220 UHF radio, dual battery system. Twin 10" electric fans. Next Job: Body lift

#574709 - 12/30/09 02:52 PM Re: ELECTRIC FAN - INSTALLATION [Re: BAZINGA]  
2002_Sporty  Offline
Mudrunner
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 336
Fairbanks Alaska
Here's my .02 cents:

PRO's
1. Better cooling in traffic. Electric fans spin at a constant speed regardless of engine speed. Itís able to pull more air in at idle when in traffic.
2. More power to the rear wheels and better engine efficiency (Fuel Economy). Because the engine is not turning the fan and clutch assembly your engine will put more power to the wheels especially at higher rpm and not needlessly turn the fan at cruising speeds.
CON's
1. Overloading the alternator/electrical system. Relays burn out and some systems have no warning that the fans not turning.
2. Overheating - Improper cooling due to the lack of proper size and fitting of fan. Have to create or adapt a shroud, trial and error as we don't have aftermarket supporters.

Others have hands on experience with this topic.


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Tires:235/75/15, Wheels: Black 15x8 Steel ProComp 2.5" B.S., Hubs:Warn Manual, Lift:3" UPYOURKIA, Trailer Hitch, Cargo Rack, Clinometer.

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