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Re: Best 4x4 ever built? [Re: Fred Blackstone] #582013 03/28/05 06:14 PM
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Land Rovers blaaa. Note the Jeep pulling the Land Rover over a spot that a Stock Samurai just passed (Not shown).
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RockJock, you said, Landrover? Are you joking? There used to be some able Landrovers, but they don't sell in the USA any more, as far as I know! Every landrover I see on the trail is car-like and has difficulty traversing smallish, simple rock obstacles. Okay, maybe I could have got that Landrover over the obstacle that day, but I don't think these Landrover cars and Mercedes g-wagons have anything over the Jeep Rubicon (stock -vs- stock)!

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Re: Best 4x4 ever built? #582014 03/28/05 09:43 PM
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Scuse me, but where is the dudes radiator?? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

[img]http://www.texasoffroad.net/galleries/ohv/album71/100_1015?full=1[/img]


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Re: Best 4x4 ever built? #582015 03/28/05 10:46 PM
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what a bunch of garbage 4 wheel steering would probably snap like twig rich poeple will buy these and put 20's on them and get in and out of tight parking spaces at the mall with the greatest of ease <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> jeep should remake that cabover 4x4 jeep thing those were cool swb too [Linked Image] but more modern like this [Linked Image] [Linked Image] comes with factory lockers oh yeah and montero's dont tip that easy and they come with big axles like mine 10 inch 35 spline locker all from the factory most jeeps come with dana 35's i have seen zukes break those <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> [Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image] monteros eat jeeps alive
i have seen tube frame jeeps with 38's and tube roof roll on the oil change pit but not one montero with or without its roof but what can i say jeeps are just the hype right now <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> and our parts dont break like yours

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Re: Best 4x4 ever built? [Re: TOASTY] #582016 03/29/05 12:03 AM
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mid 40's willy with military spec winch, if it cant
drive threw it drag it.

Re: Best 4x4 ever built? [Re: BigJim] #582017 03/29/05 12:06 AM
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LOL <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />
In the bed/back of course <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />
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Scuse me, but where is the dudes radiator?? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

[img]http://www.texasoffroad.net/galleries/ohv/album71/100_1015?full=1[/img]

Re: Best 4x4 ever built? [Re: TOASTY] #582018 03/29/05 12:08 AM
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montero? wtf? i thought they were just for getting groceries. whatever dude. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Re: Best 4x4 ever built? [Re: TOASTY] #582019 03/29/05 12:16 AM
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what a bunch of garbage 4 wheel steering would probably snap like twig rich poeple will buy these and put 20's on them and get in and out of tight parking spaces at the mall with the greatest of ease <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> jeep should remake that cabover 4x4 jeep thing those were cool swb too [Linked Image] but more modern like this [Linked Image] [image]
]http://pics.montypics.com/ccnvweb/2005-03-23/1111630394_fuso_p2.jpg[/image] comes with factory lockers oh yeah and montero's dont tip that easy and they come with big axles like mine 10 inch 35 spline locker all from the factory most jeeps come with dana 35's i have seen zukes break those <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> [Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image] monteros eat jeeps alive
i have seen tube frame jeeps with 38's and tube roof roll on the oil change pit but not one montero with or without its roof but what can i say jeeps are just the hype right now <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> and our parts dont break like yours



<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> What a maroon! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
You could not have said it better; your post is "what a bunch of garbage "! One thing is clear, you certainly have a bias for Montero's. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

We see this all the time, four wheelers attempting to promote the vehicles or kits they have purchased. I think the point is well made above that there are trails that are more suited to certain types of vehicles. Other than logging roads and moderate trails, What else is the Montero suited for? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

What is noticeable, is that Montero's are not commonly used on difficult rockcrawling trails here it Colorado and Utah; and like many SUV's such as the Montero, they certainly are not in the same class as the Unimogs . . . but, neither is the Jeep Wrangler, TJ or Rubicon (however, the Rubicon comes close!)

Your point about the dana35 axle is well taken, but with today's Jeeps, you get what you pay for. If you want a good axle in the rear of your Wrangler, Unlimited, or Rubicon, these rigs are now available with a Dana44 . . . it's been that way since 1997.

I find it incredible how blind some four wheelers can be to other obviously, vastly superior, 4x4's simply due to their bias to a particular vehicle brand. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

As far as Jeeps being the product of choice for many offroad four wheelers today . . . it has been that way since 1948! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> I am sure that a lot of the jeep's popularity is its relatively low cost and the huge aftermarket support available to build the Jeep into even a more capable offroad rig! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

It's bad enough that you spewed your bias for SUV's all over our jeep-board, but you also decided to write about your questionable bias without using any punctuation; this is very impolite! If you have a point, at least express it in a legible form! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Best 4x4 ever built? [Re: Fred Blackstone] #582020 03/29/05 01:07 AM
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jeeps would be cool if they came with dana 60's and good flex and i dont like to trail fix and its not in my budget to build a crawler out of a jeep when i can buy a montero and some tires and its ready to go but my uncle is a jeep guy and thats why i like to give you guys a hard time and every time i am on the trail drunkass jeep guys say things like what the hell is a raider doing out here <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> some pretty fun times <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> some jeep dude is always bashing on my montero
just thought i would defend montero's today <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Best 4x4 ever built? [Re: TOASTY] #582021 03/29/05 04:25 AM
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"and" Is not punctuation! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

I've wheeled with zuki's out of the Four Corners Area, over in Moab; they had a few rigs pretty well set-up with lockers, gears, and 35" BFG's! I think their breakover angle was nearly non-existent! But, I also have helped a stock zuki make it backdown the Mt.Blanca Trail in Southern Colorado. The rig was actually falling apart as my buddy with a CJ7 with a V8, towed the zuki after the driver broke the rear driveshaft driving down the trail. We then had to stop about every 1/4 mile to pick up leaf springs and bolts that were falling off the rig. The suspension and driveline seemed very tiny and flimsy. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />


94 YJ, SOA, 2-1/2 Alcans, ARB-front, Detroit-Rear, 4.56:1 gears, Oasis Trailhead compressor, 4:1 Terra Lo, 37x12.50x15 SSR's, 8000 lb Ramsey, & etc.
Re: Best 4x4 ever built? [Re: TOASTY] #582022 03/29/05 05:05 AM
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and good flex


Have you been in a TJ? Those things a CRAZY flexy with the swaybars out. Have you been in a ZJ or XJ?

Ignorance is bliss.

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