I learned my lesson with NWOR(NO Warranty OR Returns), Id save and start with Alcans. You get what you pay for, and they can make the spring paks to your specs.

I found this place online a few months ago: http://www.customsuspension.com/store/.

I haven't used them or heard anything from anyone who has, but it's an option to explore I guess.

In other words you want JG129 to be the guinea pig and try them out and report back to us. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Always good to find new options out there.

Only a slight hijack... my son (doing a SAS on an 88 minitruck) is VERY resistant to using stock Wrangler (YJ) springs even though he can get them for free. Several experienced wheelers he works with swear it will lead to death wobble. Doesn't make sense to me unless the caster is way off, but then I don't have a corner on the truth. Your experience?

I've ridden in trucks using Wrangler springs and Brian Ellinger ran them on his red truck (that he drove to the trail, not trailered) and have not experienced that. Like you said Bill, "death wobble" is typically associated with steering geometry, not the leaf springs.

For something off the shelf and not too expensive I'd run Downey. I had them on my 82 SB (for 13 years), and ran them until recently on my 85 4Runner (for 14 years). The only issue I had was on the rear of the 4Runner. They finally sagged and I replaced the rear with Alcans. Now they have been replaced with 4" springs. Where are you? I still have my old springs (Downey front, Alcan rear). If you are close to New Mexico I'll sell them cheap, but won't ship. The last time I checked shipping was more than the springs were worth.

I'm in Georgia; but I'll be out there in October. Going to Cuba for a hunt.
So they are 4" front and rear? How much do you want for them?

Don't rule out blocks. Cheap, never sag, and maintain nice stock ride. Go at least 2.5 inches so
that the e-brake line clears under the spring pack.
Everyone always knocks a block lift, but I've been running one for 8 years, all of which included runs on the Rubicon, Fordyce, Barrett and Duzy trails.
Even the serious guys who who built trail-only buggies with 63" Chevy springs in the rear end up using blocks to give them enough lift.

I am located in Conyers, Ga. You said you were looking for cheap, I just did Marlins front springs and Chevy rears. My old front springs are 3" lift Genuine Suspension from 4Wheel Parts. They worked good and rode good, I just needed more lift and flex. I changed shock mounts, went to cross over steering and so on. The springs were on my 85 4Runner when I bought it but were near new and put few miles on them. Wheeled them at Tellico once and some local stuff. They are in good shape with good bushings. Also have shackles with the grease fittings for the bolts. If you are interested and will come pick them up I'll take $75 for them.