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Re: Solster's 1999 Rodeo Offroad Project #629543
07/25/05 09:45 PM
07/25/05 09:45 PM
ProBMXer1313  Offline
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Santa Barbara, CA
O.M.E. = Old Man Emu, Rear coil springs made my ARB

O.M.E. springs are longer then stock providing a lift and are variable spring rate springs. There are different ones for different ride stiffness and lift. 912 is the softest then 913 then 919 then 929 is heavy duty. I believe 919 provides the most lift with a still comfortable ride.


1998 Honda Passport EXL V6 3.2L Auto SOTF 4WD
3" Calmini Lift w/ HD Track Bar, 32x11.5-16 Super Swamper SX, Aisins

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Re: Solster's 1999 Rodeo Offroad Project #629544
07/25/05 09:50 PM
07/25/05 09:50 PM
ProBMXer1313  Offline
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Santa Barbara, CA
O, fender trimming, here is a link from Lisa's CarDomain page that shows some fender trimming they did: Fender trim


1998 Honda Passport EXL V6 3.2L Auto SOTF 4WD
3" Calmini Lift w/ HD Track Bar, 32x11.5-16 Super Swamper SX, Aisins

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Re: Solster's 1999 Rodeo Offroad Project [Re: ProBMXer1313] #629545
07/25/05 10:19 PM
07/25/05 10:19 PM
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O, fender trimming, here is a link from Lisa's CarDomain page that shows some fender trimming they did: Fender trim


Ah, there it is! I ooked for it when Bansil mentioned it, but couldn't find it on Lisa's Rodeo page. Thanks! I doesn't look that tough afterall!

Re: Solster's 1999 Rodeo Offroad Project #629546
07/26/05 03:20 AM
07/26/05 03:20 AM
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NC Mtns...
With the OME (Old Man Emu) springs (rear) and cranking the torsion bars (front), that will be a suspension lift of about 4-4.5 inches. This (personal opinion) is the best choice of the springs provided. This will give you more lift with an easier install and cheaper than calmini, also dont forget what I said about their service. With the additon of the body lift you can acheive 6-7 inches easy (depending on how you adjust it) . This allows us to have plenty of room to run those 33's easily with no rubbing, so it should allow you plenty of room to run the tires you have listed. I should also point out that we chose a tall (very tall for a 33 at about 33.4 inches) slim tire (barely 11 inches at its widest) to run with this set up and it has worked fabulously...... Also the fender trimming is easy, I did it with a dremmel in no time.

We bought the OME 919 spring for the rear, 4 new Rancho shocks, and a PA 3 inch body lift and came out with about 7 inches of lift with a total price of just under $400 shipping and taxes included. The Calmini kit will only provide you with 3 inches and it is listed on their site for 749.95 and that is before shipping and taxes.... We used the extra money that we saved to buy a new rear diff cover and still came out under $500 with money to put back for a locker... you can decide what is best for you <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> like I said it's all personal preference, but this is one of the best setups that I've seen on a second gen rodeo without swapping in a straight axle


Scott

'95 trooper, custom long arm coil sprung SAS on 37's, welded front, LSD rear, 4.56 gears, tera lows in the garage ....
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Re: Solster's 1999 Rodeo Offroad Project [Re: scooter36863] #629547
07/26/05 03:31 AM
07/26/05 03:31 AM
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Thanks for the post scooter! I like having these options to consider, and cost is always something that we'd like to keep down.

I've been reading up on the body lift pdfs posted here:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/787111/1
very good stuff, most of it's over my head, by I'm learning. Can a shop do this body lift? can anyone quess what a shop would charge for a body lift (for parts and labor). Sounds like I've got options for a susp lift, time for me to learn about the body lift. I understand there is one body lift kit out there (also on the link above). Thanks!

Last edited by solster; 07/26/05 03:36 AM.
Re: Solster's 1999 Rodeo Offroad Project #629548
07/26/05 03:54 AM
07/26/05 03:54 AM
scooter36863  Offline
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the body lift seems a bit more intimidating than the suspension, but it's really not that bad. I dunno how the price differences are out there, but around here shops can charge anywhere between 3 to 5 hundred dollars depending on how <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" /> they are about it.........


Scott

'95 trooper, custom long arm coil sprung SAS on 37's, welded front, LSD rear, 4.56 gears, tera lows in the garage ....
http://www.cardomain.com/id/scooter36863
Re: Solster's 1999 Rodeo Offroad Project #629549
07/26/05 06:58 AM
07/26/05 06:58 AM
ProBMXer1313  Offline
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Here is another writeup on the body lift install on a 2nd gen.

And Here is a chat about how much A shop would charge for instalation.

A suspension lift is very easy, even the Calmini one, I could even help install your lift if you want. For a body lift, there are a few things that have kept me from putting one on my Passport so far, those are the welding and fabrication needed for repositioning the bumpers and extending the T-case shifter (I have no welder and know no one that owns one) and extending the steering rag joint, but aside from those things the rest seams very easy.


1998 Honda Passport EXL V6 3.2L Auto SOTF 4WD
3" Calmini Lift w/ HD Track Bar, 32x11.5-16 Super Swamper SX, Aisins

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Re: Solster's 1999 Rodeo Offroad Project #629550
07/26/05 10:34 AM
07/26/05 10:34 AM
Bansil  Offline
Body Damage is Cool
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Under my wifes RODEO in EastTN
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SOFT connects the driver side half-axle to the differential.


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Also SOFT engages the front drive shaft at the transfer case via the vacuum shift actuator on the back of the transfer case.


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Are you 100% sure about this ? I have no idea about this actuator. I can not find any mentioning of this in my Haynes manual.


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Yup, a few months ago my 4wd stopped working, wouldn't engage, so I took it to the dealer and had it fix under my service contract and that is what they had to replace. I think the failure was attributed to the hose on the back of it braking and sucking up mud and water.

Also the front drive shaft only being engaged when 4wd is activated is one of the reasons switching to manual locking hubs is nice cuz there is less drag from the wheels turning the cvs and front drive shaft when 4wd isn't engaged.


The shift modulator just replaced the manual lever that did the same thing pre SOTF systems.It's only perpose is to slide the shiftrail in the transfer case.We have swapped the shift lever for a modulator and vise versa.

The important SOTF feature is the axle disconnect on the driverside of the front diff housing.It is about a 6" extension (remember SOTF vehicles are wider) that was placed between the diff housing and the mounting plate,it has a disconnect inside of it that slides over the axle shaft to connect both sides.
The driveshaft is a normal shaft nothing fancy and if the solinoid that shifts the Transfer case did get gum'd up it wouldn't shift just like if you broke off the shift lever in a pre SOTF vehicle.You wouldn't be able to move the shift rail and engage 4wd.


Scooter that pic was Lisa's first trip to Uwharrie several years ago,when it was smaller.The trail I believe dickeybell


Bansil





98 Rodeo(hers)
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Lisa's Rodeo
Re: Solster's 1999 Rodeo Offroad Project [Re: Bansil] #629551
07/26/05 03:55 PM
07/26/05 03:55 PM
Smiley  Offline
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Posts: 5,911
Back in BFE, WV
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...that pic was Lisa's first trip to Uwharrie several years ago,when it was smaller.


I selected that particular photo, mainly because it showed Lisa's Rodeo when it was running a set of 32 x11.5 x15s. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Six Isuzus, so far... still have three of them.
Re: Solster's 1999 Rodeo Offroad Project [Re: ProBMXer1313] #629552
07/26/05 07:36 PM
07/26/05 07:36 PM
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Here is another writeup on the body lift install on a 2nd gen.

And Here is a chat about how much A shop would charge for instalation.

A suspension lift is very easy, even the Calmini one, I could even help install your lift if you want. For a body lift, there are a few things that have kept me from putting one on my Passport so far, those are the welding and fabrication needed for repositioning the bumpers and extending the T-case shifter (I have no welder and know no one that owns one) and extending the steering rag joint, but aside from those things the rest seams very easy.


<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> Those are a couple of great links, thanks! I'm getting to understand what a body lift is real quick!
I'm gonna try taking you up on your offer with the susp lift, and maybe we can work together on finding what we need to make the body lift happen for both of us!

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