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Name That Lift... #722471
05/10/06 07:57 PM
05/10/06 07:57 PM
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RatLabGuy  Offline OP
Rock Warrior
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 970
Winston-Salem NC
Okay need some help from the collective and Old Hands here.
I recently bought this '88 4Runner for parts.
See attached link - is anything here (aside from shock) NOT standard?
http://www.4rtoy.rewazule.com/Pics/DudRunner/IMG_2667.JPG

WARNING - large file (hi res) - did that to increase viewability...
It sits pretty high, about 3+" above my '89 which has stock suspension and 1" smaller tires. After some probing, the seller said it had a "torsion upgrade kit" but he wasn't sure what that was or meant, that what the PO told him. He just bought it, drove to a shop and had the engine extracted. And for that reason I don't know how it rides either.
But I don't really trust what he says/knows, seeing as he also said the PO told him it had AALs or helper springs in the back... and it dosn't, it has 3" blocks...

You can see how much droop there is in the pic - but note it's supported by the knuckle so this is compressed/loaded.
I've measured only about 1-1.5" difference in tire-to-fender distance w/ it loaded weight on wheel vs jacked on frame, which seems like very little.
My suspicion is, the T-bars ahave been cranked to all hell - but can you get that much just by that alone?
Don't have a caliper on hand (yet), but dirty measurement is that t-bars are about 1-1/6" diameter. Is this stock?


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Re: Name That Lift... [Re: RatLabGuy] #722472
05/10/06 10:45 PM
05/10/06 10:45 PM
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Seattlegti  Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,038
Eastkabumfuck,OR, USA
Body lift. I have an 88 and you can't see that much frame.

Re: Name That Lift... [Re: Seattlegti] #722473
05/10/06 10:49 PM
05/10/06 10:49 PM
OOP'S  Offline
Roll Me Over
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Posts: 4,230
Roseville, CA, Gateway to the ...
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Body lift. I have an 88 and you can't see that much frame.
It does not have the rubber mud/shields in place, that is why you can see so much frame.


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Re: Name That Lift... [Re: OOP'S] #722474
05/10/06 10:52 PM
05/10/06 10:52 PM
bkg  Offline
Roll Me Over
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 3,935
Minnesota
there is no suspension lift on that truck. If'n anything, the torsion bars have been cranked, as you suspected.


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Re: Name That Lift... [Re: OOP'S] #722475
05/11/06 02:25 AM
05/11/06 02:25 AM
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RatLabGuy  Offline OP
Rock Warrior
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 970
Winston-Salem NC
Quote
Quote
Body lift. I have an 88 and you can't see that much frame.
It does not have the rubber mud/shields in place, that is why you can see so much frame.


Yes, I've checked the mounts, no body lift.
I'm just really surprised at how high this thing is to have had nothing done to it.
See the link HERE for a side-by-side comparison.
Left - parts truck on new BFG 32s.
Right - everyday Rnr on worn 31s, stock suspension.

You can see the difference in angle of the lower A-arms.
I've read about replacement T-bars that are thicker, so oyu can torque 'em more... but these are painted black just liek everything else so I can't really tell. Anybody know teh stock T-bar diameter?


With 200+ Billion electrical parts, the world most complicated machine is inside your own skull.

Question Reality.
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'89 Rnr DLX "SR4.5", 32s w/ 5.29 locked f/r blah blah
Re: Name That Lift... [Re: RatLabGuy] #722476
05/11/06 02:39 AM
05/11/06 02:39 AM
OOP'S  Offline
Roll Me Over
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 4,230
Roseville, CA, Gateway to the ...
Cranked T-bars, if you tighten them enough you can get about two inches, it will ride like crap but it will lift it. When ever the A-arms are angled liked it means T-bars have been messed with!!!!


David Fritzsche
1990 Ex-Cab V-6,5-speed, with a few mods
04.5 CTD Dodge 2500 Ram--Tow Rig
Roseville, CA

"Serenity through Sobriety"
Re: Name That Lift... [Re: OOP'S] #722477
05/11/06 03:28 AM
05/11/06 03:28 AM
Brian894X4  Offline
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Posts: 6,768
Gresham, Oregon *****
Ya, in fact it almost looks like there's no upper bumpstop. Possibly to get that much more lift out of it, or at least a tiny bit of travel.

I ran around with IFS that was cranked for about 1.5" of lift and with low profile bumpstops, the ride was fine to me.

Looks like you got the stock relay rod. Don't forget to get that replaced at the dealer, ASAP. Free recall on those.


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Re: Name That Lift... [Re: Brian894X4] #722478
05/11/06 03:35 AM
05/11/06 03:35 AM
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RatLabGuy  Offline OP
Rock Warrior
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 970
Winston-Salem NC
Ah yes, had forgotten about that.
Does it come with an alignment?
'Cause if so... it'll be ballJoint spacers for me first (screw this T-bar lift mess)!


With 200+ Billion electrical parts, the world most complicated machine is inside your own skull.

Question Reality.
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'89 Rnr DLX "SR4.5", 32s w/ 5.29 locked f/r blah blah
Re: Name That Lift... [Re: RatLabGuy] #722479
05/11/06 08:05 PM
05/11/06 08:05 PM
hupptoy  Offline
Wheeler
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 192
Northern Indiana
Don't you think the lack of an engine would make it sit a little higher than stock?? But, could have larger T-bars.

hupptoy


99 4Runner SR5 3.4 Auto 4x4, 32" LTX A/T, 154K
93 Toy x-cab 22RE 5-spd 4x4, 31" LTX A/T, 150K
Re: Name That Lift... [Re: hupptoy] #722480
05/11/06 08:31 PM
05/11/06 08:31 PM
bkg  Offline
Roll Me Over
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 3,935
Minnesota
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Don't you think the lack of an engine would make it sit a little higher than stock??


HAHAHA! Two points! Good call.


Brian K. Gallus
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