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Wheel alignment question. ( relay rod recall) #737353
07/14/06 01:52 PM
07/14/06 01:52 PM
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Finally made an appointement to have the recall done and was hoping to leave without problems...

Brought it in, they replaced the relay rod same day. I went in to pick it up and asked the service rep. if an alignment had been done. He tells me no, its not part of the campaign.

Go home, print out the .pdf file outlining the procedure, bring it over and show him that they had to check and adjust the alignment.

Now he tells me that they brought the truck for a ride to see if it was pulling to either side, he said it wasn't so no alignment needed.

Is this procedure "good enough" to check the alignment or can it still be out of spec without it pulling to either side?

Thanks alot.

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Re: Wheel alignment question. ( relay rod recall) #737354
07/16/06 02:22 AM
07/16/06 02:22 AM
Snowtoy  Offline
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Grass Valley, CA
No, a drive to see if it pulls isn't eneough, if both the front wheels are toe-in, it wont pull at all, but it will wear the outside of the tire down a lot, same if they were both toe-out. The dealership should have aligned it providing all the other components(tie-rods ball joints, idler arm, etc.) were in good shape. You can check this for yourself using a tape measurer, a couple of boards(one for each side), and a buddy. The distance across from the outside of one tire to the outside of the other should be the same for both the front and back measurements of the front tires. It sounds to me as if the dealership is being lazy, there really isn't a need to be since the total costs of the recall are covered by Toyota.


More than tread lightly. Leave it like you were never there, nor anyone else.
'90 X-cab 4.88's 33 BFG AT's, rr ARB, Headers, Ignition upgrade, cold air induction.
'91 X-cab 5.29's 315's BFG MT's, rr ARB, custom bumper and flatbed
Re: Wheel alignment question. ( relay rod recall) [Re: Snowtoy] #737355
07/16/06 04:41 AM
07/16/06 04:41 AM
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The distance across the from the outside of one tire to the outside of the other should be the same for both the front and back measurements of the front tires.
Sorry but I disagree with this statement, all steering is set-up with a specific amount of toe-in. Check your FSM and you will see that.


David Fritzsche
1990 Ex-Cab V-6,5-speed, with a few mods
04.5 CTD Dodge 2500 Ram--Tow Rig
Roseville, CA

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Re: Wheel alignment question. ( relay rod recall) #737356
07/17/06 01:06 AM
07/17/06 01:06 AM
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RatLabGuy  Offline
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Winston-Salem NC
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Go home, print out the .pdf file outlining the procedure, bring it over and show him that they had to check and adjust the alignment.


Do you have a link to said pdf?


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Re: Wheel alignment question. ( relay rod recall) #737357
07/17/06 01:16 AM
07/17/06 01:16 AM
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KillChain  Offline
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American Toyota, Albuquerque,NM. I did recall when I bought my 1990 Toy 4x4, service department....service department DID do alignment for free with recall service.


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Re: Wheel alignment question. ( relay rod recall) #737358
07/17/06 08:50 AM
07/17/06 08:50 AM
kewlynx  Offline
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They would've had to tear the pitman arm apart, so an alignment is in order. Check out the literature we've kept here in our Toyota tech archive


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Re: Wheel alignment question. ( relay rod recall) #737359
07/17/06 05:18 PM
07/17/06 05:18 PM
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The whitecoat at my local T. dealer, when I asked if an alignment had been done as part of the recall on my '91, checked his[electronic]paperwork and said that there were 3 "levels" to the recall campaign, depending on the specific vehicle, and told me that mine was "level 3" which meant that a full alignment was part of the recall FOR MY CAR. BS? I don't know. It feels the same driving as it did before, and the repairs at the dealer are guaranteed for a year, so I'm mollified for now.

Re: Wheel alignment question. ( relay rod recall) #737360
07/17/06 05:58 PM
07/17/06 05:58 PM
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Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 55
Ontario, Canada
Toyota did mine in January. The Did allign the truck and the mechanic even threw in free tie rods bc mine were rusted beyond repair. They also aligned my steering wheel from when some girl hit me and I drove over the escorts bumper. The mechanic also did some diagnostic work on the efi system too free of charge!! Sounds like the Service dept is trying to pull a fast one on ya?


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Re: Wheel alignment question. ( relay rod recall) [Re: OOP'S] #737361
07/18/06 01:48 AM
07/18/06 01:48 AM
Snowtoy  Offline
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Grass Valley, CA
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The distance across the from the outside of one tire to the outside of the other should be the same for both the front and back measurements of the front tires.
Sorry but I disagree with this statement, all steering is set-up with a specific amount of toe-in. Check your FSM and you will see that.


Stock specs yes, but not with larger tires, lift, wider rims, etc. Also the measurement would give him an idea if the dealer was correct in saying that it didn't need one because it drove straight. A vehicle that tracks straight could still have an alignment that will cause abnormal tire wear.


More than tread lightly. Leave it like you were never there, nor anyone else.
'90 X-cab 4.88's 33 BFG AT's, rr ARB, Headers, Ignition upgrade, cold air induction.
'91 X-cab 5.29's 315's BFG MT's, rr ARB, custom bumper and flatbed
Re: Wheel alignment question. ( relay rod recall) [Re: Snowtoy] #737362
07/18/06 02:36 AM
07/18/06 02:36 AM
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The distance across the from the outside of one tire to the outside of the other should be the same for both the front and back measurements of the front tires.
Sorry but I disagree with this statement, all steering is set-up with a specific amount of toe-in. Check your FSM and you will see that.


Stock specs yes, but not with larger tires, lift, wider rims, etc. Also the measurement would give him an idea if the dealer was correct in saying that it didn't need one because it drove straight. A vehicle that tracks straight could still have an alignment that will cause abnormal tire wear.
So you are telling me that you are not running any toe-in on your rig? I always run an 1/8 inch toe-in on mine since I did the SAS. I tried 0 and 1/16 and got wobble. I have never seen or talked to anyone that has run zero toe-in and all .


David Fritzsche
1990 Ex-Cab V-6,5-speed, with a few mods
04.5 CTD Dodge 2500 Ram--Tow Rig
Roseville, CA

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