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#765063 - 11/13/06 08:46 PM What is the best Head Gasket for the 3vze?  
dogtoy  Offline
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Las Vegas, NV
There are talks and we all know about the infamous head gasket problem with the 3vze's. If there were one gasket maker/material that would stand the test of time, what would it be? Is there a sure fire solution?


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#765064 - 11/14/06 05:48 AM Re: What is the best Head Gasket for the 3vze? [Re: dogtoy]  
Rauch_Off_Road  Offline
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engnbldr.com sells rock and nitroseal steel slipperplate gaskets that are good to go.


(aka suprathepeg, aka Sean)
89 v6 SWB truck "BLACK BEAUTY" EB valves, P&P head 30 over.
95 FZJ80. Lifted. locked and rollin on 33s (my dream machine)

#765065 - 11/14/06 06:21 AM Re: What is the best Head Gasket for the 3vze? [Re: Rauch_Off_Road]  
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I bought my truck in March of 97, HG's were done in May of 97. Still going strong. So I would say OEM are a pretty good bet.


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#765066 - 11/14/06 04:12 PM Re: What is the best Head Gasket for the 3vze? [Re: OOP'S]  
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Later OEM are steel slipperplate as well. IIRC


(aka suprathepeg, aka Sean)
89 v6 SWB truck "BLACK BEAUTY" EB valves, P&P head 30 over.
95 FZJ80. Lifted. locked and rollin on 33s (my dream machine)

#765067 - 11/14/06 07:39 PM Re: What is the best Head Gasket for the 3vze? [Re: Rauch_Off_Road]  
dogtoy  Offline
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Ok cool, I am going to use oem and arp studs. Thx


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#765068 - 11/14/06 07:55 PM Re: What is the best Head Gasket for the 3vze? [Re: dogtoy]  
Rauch_Off_Road  Offline
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Just my opinion but I'd make a call to Ted at engnbldr.com and get the rock gaskets and his bolts. You'll save some serious cash and Ted's stuff is top notch. The HG weakness isn't in the bolts FWIW.


(aka suprathepeg, aka Sean)
89 v6 SWB truck "BLACK BEAUTY" EB valves, P&P head 30 over.
95 FZJ80. Lifted. locked and rollin on 33s (my dream machine)

#765069 - 11/14/06 08:12 PM Re: What is the best Head Gasket for the 3vze? [Re: Rauch_Off_Road]  
dogtoy  Offline
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Las Vegas, NV
thanks guys.


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#765070 - 11/15/06 02:29 AM Re: What is the best Head Gasket for the 3vze? [Re: Rauch_Off_Road]  
engnbldr  Offline
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Later OEM are steel slipperplate as well. IIRC


>>>*No offense intended, but the term "Slipperplate" is a trademark of my company, EPN.

That name was founded some 12-13 years ago when I met with some techs trying to solve the Honda head gasket problem. The 3VZE is wonderfully durable compared to those things in the old days, we had gaskets failing in 2-4 DAYS, dang near ALL of them!

*I hate Hondas to this day, cost me a fortune. I went out and bought a variable speed mill, ($18,900.00) it will make 3600 cuts per minute at 1/2" per minute, so we can machine aluminum to finer texture than glass although 10-12 Ra is a nice finish we shoot for.

We determined that a lot of the very early failures were simply from machine shops not being up to speed with the microinch finish patterns required to allow aluminum to slip across the gasket surface as it expanded.

The effect was similar to someone rolling damp paper between their fingers, even Graphite, then Kevlar and some silicon fillers all failed. Asbestos did work very well but government restrictions ended that material as a filler for the gasket material.

EPA inspectors get real snotty if they find asbestos in any of our shop dust.

The lamination designs suffered the same concerns, witness the Neon, and then the 3VZE. So I popped up with "We need a steel plate of some kind to let the head surface slip."

(*EB being a gene-yus and all...*LOL**) My friend Steve said, "Yea, a Slipperplate." Most companies are now up to speed, the idea is actually pretty simple, now some companies are even expanding on that with multi-layer steel for more severe type service.

But yes, you are correct, Toyota uses the same....technology. It's a pretty good innovation, I am kinda proud of that one since I had a hand in it...*EB


*Beats the he** outa me!....*LOL**...

#765071 - 11/15/06 08:40 PM Re: What is the best Head Gasket for the 3vze? [Re: engnbldr]  
Rauch_Off_Road  Offline
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EB you're the best.

On a side note; have you gotten my recient emails or has your firewall been shutting me out again?


(aka suprathepeg, aka Sean)
89 v6 SWB truck "BLACK BEAUTY" EB valves, P&P head 30 over.
95 FZJ80. Lifted. locked and rollin on 33s (my dream machine)

#765072 - 11/15/06 09:53 PM Re: What is the best Head Gasket for the 3vze? [Re: Rauch_Off_Road]  
engnbldr  Offline
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Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,576
1800 acre island at the Oregon... *****
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EB you're the best.

On a side note; have you gotten my recient emails or has your firewall been shutting me out again?


>>>*I haven't seen any, give it another try. I am on my mainframe right now, that should work.

We were in Reno over the weekend, darn storm knocked us off line, I am still trying to sort out everything.

Hey, ever fly out in an airplane and get to look out the windows at the ground..STRAIGHT DOWN!..BOTH sides?

*yow....I tink I maybe dribbled in my undies a tad on that one...*LOL**...*EB


*Beats the he** outa me!....*LOL**...

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