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D.O.A. or LC Engine #773375 12/18/06 11:55 PM
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Chunky Offline OP
I'm looking at getting a long block engine replacement for my 87 22RE. Any opinions on which makes a better engine, which is a better value, etc...

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Re: D.O.A. or LC Engine [Re: Chunky] #773376 12/19/06 12:14 AM
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Why not do it yourself and save a ton of cash? Talk to ted at engnbldr.com.

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89 v6 SWB truck "BLACK BEAUTY" EB valves, P&P head 30 over.
95 FZJ80. Lifted. locked and rollin on 33s (my dream machine)
Re: D.O.A. or LC Engine [Re: Rauch_Off_Road] #773377 12/19/06 12:22 AM
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Chunky Offline OP
How do I know when Its time to retire the block?

'87 4Runner
Re: D.O.A. or LC Engine [Re: Chunky] #773378 12/19/06 12:25 AM
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Roll Me Over
How do I know when Its time to retire the block?

When there's a hole in it...

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Re: D.O.A. or LC Engine [Re: Chunky] #773379 12/19/06 01:36 AM
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Snowtoy Offline
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If you are looking to upgrade your engine hp's, you can have the block bored out at your local machine shop. If there was a crack or something wrong with the block, they would be able to diagnos it for you. You can also have the shop work the heads over as well. Then order all of your parts through enginebuilders. This should save you quite a lot of money over ordering a complete engine from either DOA or LCE, their engines are nice but pricey.

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Re: D.O.A. or LC Engine [Re: Snowtoy] #773380 12/19/06 01:45 AM
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1986xtracab Offline
Plus you'll feel a lot better knowing that you put the work in to, as opposed to buying it.

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Re: D.O.A. or LC Engine [Re: 1986xtracab] #773381 12/19/06 02:01 AM
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Stevie Offline
I do it myself, and learn awhole lot. Yeah, the hard way sometimes, but that's life. DOA & LC have to charge what they do. We all would too if we had their overhead. Give it a go! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/mrt.gif" alt="" />

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Re: D.O.A. or LC Engine [Re: Chunky] #773382 12/19/06 02:36 AM
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Brian894X4 Offline
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Why not have EB build you a motor? Everyone seems to have happy with his products, his knowledge of how to hop up the 22R,RE and especially his customer service and last time I checked, his prices were more than reasonable.


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Re: D.O.A. or LC Engine [Re: Chunky] #773383 12/19/06 04:35 PM
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dcg9381 Offline
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How do I know when Its time to retire the block?

Any qualified machine shop can tell you that.. Typically when you go over 93.5mm or .060, it's time to be concerned - not all blocks can be overbored beyond that.

I agree with the above - talk to engnbldr.. His shop may even do complete longblocks.

If you want more than 140 or 150 hp, look to DOA or LC.. Just understand what you're buying.


1988 4Runner
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Re: D.O.A. or LC Engine [Re: dcg9381] #773384 12/20/06 01:45 AM
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bigStinger Offline
22re's are never gonna be all that great for performance, unfortunately. they came from a fork lift engine in the 70's, for pete's sake. From point A to point B is where they excel. They are excellent engines for what they are...sturdy, reliable, easy to work on, decent gas mileage...

that being said... depending on your know how, your opportunity cost, etc... do it yourself or have the pros do it. I started from learning how to change my oil to doing my timing chain to swapping diffs. I have put a lot of time, effort and worry into doing it myself. Just know that to diy is a commitment well beyond the one job... But since I got burnt bad by the shop on my timing chain and had to do it myself behind them, I' glad I know how to do some things.

just my $.02

oh and my 93 jeep is easier to work on than my 22re... sorry guys! lol <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

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