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Gear Questions #774005 12/21/06 02:53 AM
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josephelk Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
I have an 89YJ that I have lifted 3.5" with 33" tires and just installed the 4.0 engine swap and all works great. I would like to install some new gears, But have been told several gears will work 4.11- 456 are the main two? Because this is my daily driver I would like to install the right gears that work the best for performance and mileage, does anyone have an opinion on this that could help me? I have a Dana 35 rear & Dana 30 front and should I match the front gears with the rear or could I do the rear now and front later or am I going to have problems with 411 or 456 in the rear and stock gears in the front?

I also just received my Posi-lok system to do away with the old stock vacuum 4 x 4 engagement system. Has anyone heard any good or bad things about the Posi-Lok?

Thanks,

Josephelk


89 YJ, 3.5" Black Diamond Lift, 33" tires, 8000lb Warn, 4.0 91 XY engine swap.
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Re: Gear Questions [Re: josephelk] #774006 12/21/06 05:41 AM
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BigJim Offline
Web Wheeler
Oh NO! Please don't put the gears in one at a time.. If I did that I would pull the shifter out of the transfer case or the front driveshaft.. I'd make it where there was NO WAY to engage the front wheels!
With never going higher than 33's using a 3:73 should work fine for the best milage. If around home is hilly maybe the 4:11.. But I think the 4:56 is a bit low for that engine and only 33's.
The posi-loc is a good thing to have unless you drive over the top of a lot of heavy offroad brush and small trees.
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Re: Gear Questions [Re: josephelk] #774007 12/21/06 03:48 PM
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Classic_City_Offroad Offline
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Big Jim is right. You have to re-gear the front and rear axles at the same time. I would run 4.11's with your engine and tire size. You would be fine with 3.73's but I think you will still be looking for more low end juice with that ratio.

Robert
Classic City Offroad

Re: Gear Questions [Re: Classic_City_Offroad] #774008 12/21/06 05:25 PM
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superdawg Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Flad landers, sheesh.
Posi lock indicates that your wheeling will be at least serious enough that you can't afford to not have 4x. How into jeeps and jeeping a given person is, is how I answer this question.
If you are sold on the virtues of jeeps and wheeling, 35" tires are next with lockers an axle swaps not far behind.

4.56 or even 4.88 is just fine with 33s assuming a 5 speed
manual tranny, if automatic 4.10 or 4.56.

Forget 3.73.
You have mountains to drive, snow to wheel (snow we have here now 24") get gears that not only suit the imediate need but future needs as well.

SD

Re: Gear Questions [Re: josephelk] #774009 12/21/06 06:35 PM
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BobRowe Offline
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I think you should go with the 4.11 gears rather than the 4.56 gears. I have the 4.56 gears in my trail-dedicated CJ7. Even with 35" tires, the gearing is too low for me to travel any considerable distance on the highway -- rpms are just too high at 60-65 mph. Yours would be even worse with 33" tires, especially since you say that it's a daily driver.

You could probably get away with 3.73 gears, but I think you'd be happier with the 4.11 geaars once you get off of the pavement.

Personally, I would never drive a 4x4 that had different gear ratios in the front and rar axles. That's a MAJOR screw-up just waiting to happen!


1977 CJ-7, fiberglass body, AMC 360 w/ headers, DUI ignition, Edelbrock intake and Holley 4150 carb, TF999, Dana 300, 4.56 gears lockers, York air comp, 4" susp lift, 2" body lift, BFG 35" M-T tires, Megashifter, AGR pump & box, REP8000 winch.
Re: Gear Questions [Re: BobRowe] #774010 12/22/06 02:21 AM
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josephelk Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Thanks for the responses,

I think I will go with the 4.11 front and rear. What manufacture of gears is the best and what manufacture should I stay away from?

Ive never installed gears before but I pickup on things pretty quick and I have my service manuals that I purchased when I changed out my 258 engine for the 4.0. Is this something I could do myself or should I take it in and have them installed?

Thanks again for the excellent feed back.


89 YJ, 3.5" Black Diamond Lift, 33" tires, 8000lb Warn, 4.0 91 XY engine swap.
Re: Gear Questions [Re: josephelk] #774011 12/22/06 03:44 AM
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valleycat Offline
Body Damage is Cool
I would just get it done by a pro unless it's something you really want to learn how to do. You will need someone that can teach you and the special tools required to do gear installs.

Re: Gear Questions [Re: josephelk] #774012 12/22/06 05:55 AM
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BobRowe Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Richmond gears have always worked good for me. But any name brand should do fine.


1977 CJ-7, fiberglass body, AMC 360 w/ headers, DUI ignition, Edelbrock intake and Holley 4150 carb, TF999, Dana 300, 4.56 gears lockers, York air comp, 4" susp lift, 2" body lift, BFG 35" M-T tires, Megashifter, AGR pump & box, REP8000 winch.
Re: Gear Questions [Re: BobRowe] #774013 12/22/06 08:03 AM
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crumy Offline
Need a Spot
I got a 2006 Rubicon . I am getting a 5.5 RE lift and am trying to decide whether or not to go with 33s or 35s. Any opinions...?? I was worried about the 35s being to big for everyday driving.


2006 Rubicon Unlimited, 5" Teraflex Longarm, S/T Swaybar, 35x15x13.50 Toyo MT
Re: Gear Questions [Re: valleycat] #774014 12/23/06 12:01 AM
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josephelk Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
I think I will have someone else do the gears. After the engine swap I did on my Jeep I think I will take about a year break from working on it? Ya right, I will get my gears and try them out and end up breaking something. But thats what it's all about, Build it and break it sometimes.

Thanks again for all the good advice.


89 YJ, 3.5" Black Diamond Lift, 33" tires, 8000lb Warn, 4.0 91 XY engine swap.
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