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Superwinch hubs question #799307 03/23/07 12:22 AM
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Shovel Offline OP
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I just got a pair of Superwinch hubs from ebay for my 1991 trooper, and they had an assortment of parts kinda at random thrown in. I was able to buy a set of the snap rings, and the 3/4" washers which fit between the snap rings and the inner hub assembly.... but there was also one larger washer (yes, just one with the pair of hubs...) that I don't know if I need or not.

This washer is 1" inside diameter, 1-5/8" outside diameter, and 2/10ths thick.

I think it goes outside the snap ring, as a spacer?

Does anyone know if this is actually a part of the superwinch hub? and where I can get another one if it's needed?

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Re: Superwinch hubs question [Re: Shovel] #799308 03/23/07 03:52 AM
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I don't think you need any spacers, just the 26mm snap rings.


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Re: Superwinch hubs question [Re: josh93rodeo] #799309 03/25/07 04:10 PM
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just an unrelated tip - if you live in an area that gets snow, put a protective coating on the aluminum covers. They get chalky white as soon as the salt hits them. I'm going to have to remove mine and polish them because I assumed that they were made of something that would resist standard driving conditions!

I don't know if a good coat of wax would be enough - I'm probably going to spray some clear coat on them or something.


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Re: Superwinch hubs question [Re: Shovel] #799310 03/25/07 05:30 PM
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I posted a picture a couple weeks ago of my Superwinch hubs with the covers off. It was in the 26mm snap-ring thread on the tech forum. I'll try to repost here.

Superwinch Hub

Do you by any chance have a schematic of the hub? I'd guess not if you're asking your question. I'm still looking for an answer on the snap-ring.

HTH
Ken


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Re: Superwinch hubs question [Re: Trooper-san] #799311 03/26/07 10:00 PM
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Shovel Offline OP
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I'm not totally sure that 26mm snap rings are the only way to do this...

[Linked Image]

the one on the left is the 26mm snap ring in place among the splines,

but the one on the right seems like an equally effective way - the reason i am wondering about it is that my hubs came with a washer the exact right size, like the yellow one in this picture.

And, in my original post i asked about a spacer thing - that's depicted in blue in this image.

Anyone know if there's a reason not to do it that way? Anyone know about the spacer (blue in this image for visibility) ?

Re: Superwinch hubs question [Re: Shovel] #799312 03/26/07 11:16 PM
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Jim_Paget Offline
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You really do need the snap rings. The shaft can and will work back and forth without the snap ring and eventually chew up the splines on the shaft. At that point you have to replace the entire thing.

The washer is there because it is sometimes necessary to put it behind the snap ring to prevent excessive play.


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Re: Superwinch hubs question [Re: Jim_Paget] #799313 03/27/07 12:40 AM
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I know that a snap ring is needed... but I'm wondering about where specifically. There's the 26mm one that can be placed in the splined section of the shaft, or the smaller (like 18mm?) one that can be placed in the ring near the end of the shaft (purple in the above picture) with the 3/4" washer (yellow in above picture) in place behind it.

Re: Superwinch hubs question [Re: Shovel] #799314 03/27/07 12:49 AM
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If you put it on the outer grove, how is the spline socket in the hub going to slide over it to engage the shaft?


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Re: Superwinch hubs question [Re: Jim_Paget] #799315 03/27/07 02:55 AM
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that's not a concern. the part that the splines mesh with is already engaged, in constant mesh - it's one half of essentially a dog clutch, and then the other half of the dog clutch slides down completely over the washer/etc.

Re: Superwinch hubs question [Re: Shovel] #799316 03/27/07 05:08 AM
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hmm.. i finally got a chance to work on this a bit more... and determined that it is not a good idea to use the little retainer with the washer as the retention method. it works, works quite well in fact.... EXCEPT it allows too much in-out play at the axle... allowing the back side to be exposed more which can't be good for it in wet or dusty conditions

darn... that means I've gotta buy a new axle shaft and go through the annoyance of installing it 'cause my splines are lunched and won't hold a 26mm snapring retainer.

Worth a shot, anyway smile

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