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Weight Problem #828398 08/02/07 10:26 PM
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por Offline OP
Need a Spot
We (wife and I) do an enormous amount of primitive camping in the 4 corners area. We have a 2005 wrangler x running 31's. I built all the carry-all racks to my specific needs out of electrical EMT sweged and welded together. Everything behind the front seats is gone. I never believed a jeep should carry more than two people anyway. I even built a cantilevered front rack to spread the weight. We will stay out for 2-3 weeks at a time. The weight I need to carry is the only barrier for staying out longer. This past spring with all the provisions for 3-4 weeks, 10 gallons of gas, 15 gallons of water, a large water purifier + shower and potty, bear-proof containers, lines, pulleys, and hardware to raise the materials in the trees, onboard air, Tools and breakdown paraphernalia, two battery alternating system, wenches and lights and two 90 lb. Labs...we are near tweaked out. I need to increase the spring tension...not necessarily raise the vehicle. I would like to keep as low a center of gravity as possible. I would appreciate any help at all.

Thanks

From the Off-Road World
Re: Weight Problem [Re: por] #828399 08/02/07 10:39 PM
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BigJim Offline
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I think I'd be looking into some BAGS. The coils should be available also...but the coils will be for loaded and empty the thing will be uncomfortable..
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Re: Weight Problem [Re: por] #828400 08/03/07 03:07 AM
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ChefMark Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Offroad trailer is the quickest and imo solution.
Sounds like you've got more stuff than I even. I had roofrack for years, loaded up family with gear for 3-4 day trips or my hunt camp, tons of stuff on the rack on top and the back trail rack with gas and such. Went through more shocks and springs than I can count. My good friend gave me an old trailer he made absolutley LOVE it.
I can email a pic or two of mine, there are a ton of others out there too if you know how to fab stuff.
Garage sale or junkyard an axle and build up or find old trailer and soup (not cooking liquid) up with spring over, tires etc etc.

Just my 2 pennies worth.

THank you,


Chef Mark

Life is like a hardcore offroad trail...put it in 4-lo and get over it!!

97 TJ, (R.I.P.4-Cyl) 5.3 Vortec Gen III, NV4500, Ford 8.8 Rear, 30 Frnt, 33" BFG MT, 4.25" Susp, 2"Bdy, OBA, Rk Hrd 4x4 Cage, bunch of other cool stuff.
Re: Weight Problem [Re: por] #828401 08/03/07 03:31 AM
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Greg2000 Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
I wonder if someone has come up with an air ride system. That would take the wait and you could keep your springs for regular driving.
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Re: Weight Problem [Re: Greg2000] #828402 08/03/07 02:06 PM
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ChefMark Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
There is a air bag suspen system I saw in Moab a few years back for TJ's. You could control ride heigt and firmness/stiffness of single coil bag and all four at seperate times. AirRock System: http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/02may/oro_airrock.asp

I found these searching:
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techar...rangler_airbag_coilover_shock/index.html
http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoAirbagSuspension.htm


Chef Mark

Life is like a hardcore offroad trail...put it in 4-lo and get over it!!

97 TJ, (R.I.P.4-Cyl) 5.3 Vortec Gen III, NV4500, Ford 8.8 Rear, 30 Frnt, 33" BFG MT, 4.25" Susp, 2"Bdy, OBA, Rk Hrd 4x4 Cage, bunch of other cool stuff.
Re: Weight Problem [Re: ChefMark] #828403 08/03/07 02:28 PM
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oldgreen Offline
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I take my CJ winter camping [we have a few months of snow here] so even though the stays are shorter like 1 or 2 nights a lot of gear is required. My CJ is also a 2 seater and to solve the storage problem I built a trailer. It has a pintle hitch, and 35 BFG mud tires with the same bolt pattern as the CJ. It is also quite short, 51 inches and around 4 feet wide between the wheels and the wheels are right at the back for a good departure angle.It is around 4 feet high and is enclosed with a roof rack on the top. With the Sept long weekend coming up I will be adding tubing to the outside of the fenders plus a jerry can rack on one side and a battery box with a solar charger and a small 800 watt generator on the other side. It works great, the axle is a torsion spring system so it is low profile and the trailer pulls great thru ravines,etc. It also allows me to bring a lot of gear. Being enclosed keeps the gear clean and dry and the pintle hitch works great off-road and is barely noticeable on the road. Once the upgrades are done I,ll try to post a picture of it.


84 CJ7 304 HEI 35 BFG,s rear dana 60 with detroit locker,Viar compressor, fibreglass body, 2 1/2 spring lift, TF999auto, Warn 8000 winch, Plus a cool little trailer on 35,s. JEEP stands for just empty every pocket
Re: Weight Problem [Re: oldgreen] #828404 08/04/07 01:05 AM
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Greg2000 Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Quote
I take my CJ winter camping [we have a few months of snow here] so even though the stays are shorter like 1 or 2 nights a lot of gear is required. My CJ is also a 2 seater and to solve the storage problem I built a trailer. It has a pintle hitch, and 35 BFG mud tires with the same bolt pattern as the CJ. It is also quite short, 51 inches and around 4 feet wide between the wheels and the wheels are right at the back for a good departure angle.It is around 4 feet high and is enclosed with a roof rack on the top. With the Sept long weekend coming up I will be adding tubing to the outside of the fenders plus a jerry can rack on one side and a battery box with a solar charger and a small 800 watt generator on the other side. It works great, the axle is a torsion spring system so it is low profile and the trailer pulls great thru ravines,etc. It also allows me to bring a lot of gear. Being enclosed keeps the gear clean and dry and the pintle hitch works great off-road and is barely noticeable on the road. Once the upgrades are done I,ll try to post a picture of it.


Do you have any pictures of the trailer and dimesions. I have a rather long trailer I use with my cj now and would like to alter it somehow.
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Re: Weight Problem [Re: Greg2000] #828405 08/04/07 03:38 AM
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oldgreen Offline
Wheeler
I,m modifying my fenders and should be done by sunday, once its done I,ll post a picture with some dimensions.


84 CJ7 304 HEI 35 BFG,s rear dana 60 with detroit locker,Viar compressor, fibreglass body, 2 1/2 spring lift, TF999auto, Warn 8000 winch, Plus a cool little trailer on 35,s. JEEP stands for just empty every pocket
Re: Weight Problem [Re: oldgreen] #828406 08/04/07 04:32 AM
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BigJim Offline
Web Wheeler
Here ya go! There's a bunch of them on eBay right now!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/M416...hashZitem260144800177QQitemZ260144800177
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professional bovine relocation specialist
Re: Weight Problem [Re: BigJim] #828407 08/04/07 04:56 AM
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RockJock Offline
Rock Warrior
I would without a doubt get an expedition trailer for those extended stays. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

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