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New tires - help me decide #840859 10/10/07 10:02 PM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 24
MRT100 Offline OP
Need a Spot
I'm looking for new tires for my T100 4WD manual.
Moderate driving 60% city 40% highway,
Very little of roading

First choice Pirelli Scorpion ATR
Second choice Bridgestone Dueler A/T REVO
AND I think I will go for Pirelli.
BUT here is where I'm stuck.
Can't decide on the size
I have 16 inch alloy wheels.
I should buy 265/70R16 (factory specs)
Looking on 265/75R16 (this is the size I have now)

Would 1 inch taller wheal make a difference in look?
What do you think?


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Re: New tires - help me decide [Re: MRT100] #840860 10/10/07 10:57 PM
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ErikB Offline
Toyota Moderator
Its mostly personal preference...

I really like the Revo's I ran on my 4runner and I wish they made a 35" to fit my T. They are somewhat pricey though.

As for size, I'd go with the bigger ones, but that's just me trying to compensate... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />

'97 4Runner, '06 F350, '86 4Runner, '05 WR450
Re: New tires - help me decide [Re: ErikB] #840861 10/11/07 03:54 AM
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CJMT100 Offline
Rock Warrior
Firestone AT's, danged good tires imho.

1996 T100, Mickey Thomson Classics, Bridgestone Dueler AT 265/75/16, custom offroad KC's.
Re: New tires - help me decide [Re: MRT100] #840862 10/12/07 03:24 PM
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garym Offline
Rock Warrior
My truck came with the Pirellis when I bought it used and they did surprisingly well for milage, in the snow, and gave a smooth quiet ride on the highway. They caked up quick in the mud. I went Toyo Open Country this time just because of the mud but have nothing bad to say about the Pirellis

1997 T-100 4X4 Xcab,Warn Hubs
02 Camry LE
2008 Yaris
Re: New tires - help me decide [Re: MRT100] #840863 10/12/07 06:18 PM
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Flannelman Offline
I just went through this last year and I ended up getting the Pirelli's as I got them a lot cheaper than anything else comparable. I ran them last winter and have no complaints about them. They're worlds better in dry and wet traction than the Michelin X-radials I run in the summer. My only thing is that I got 275/70 16 because it was 20+ a tire cheaper than the 245/75 16 or stock 265/70 16 (which are both 31" and the 275 is about 31.5) is I don't have enough weight to sink them in really hard packed snow. So for you the question is do you want the a little tire size increase or a bit better drive ability as I notice going between my from summer to winter that mileage(up about 1.5 on the day I changed sets) is better and acceleration is a bit better just due to the gearing matching the stock tires better. so for you I guess that I would rather have the better mileage and acceleration than a bit taller tire if your always on road, anyways just my .02.

1997 T-100 100k and counting Green
5spd 4x4 Ext Cab isr mod Aisin Manual hubs
Re: New tires - help me decide [Re: Flannelman] #840864 10/16/07 06:37 PM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 24
MRT100 Offline OP
Need a Spot
I'm having a second thought on Pirellis.
This is a picture I get after reading some reviews on Tirerack.com (and other places).
Pirelli Scorpion ATR is a great tire.
It gets great reviews except not to good on a mud.
But, most of those reviews come from new users; few K miles at the most.
It looks like happy user attitude changes quickly to "p-off" once they got to above 20K.
Sounds like 20-ty something K is the most you can get from these tires.

Any comments on that, please?
Any high mileage or second set users of Pirellis out there?

Re: New tires - help me decide [Re: MRT100] #840865 10/17/07 10:34 AM
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foxtrapper Offline
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You might want to look at the firestone/bridgestone Destination AT. I was researching tires about two years ago, for similar driving conditions. The reviews on Tirerack.com are quite good. In comparison to other tires, it was a consisting B across the board. I personally liked the across the board aspect of that, as I'm as likely to be in snow as mud or grass or pavement.

I've had the tires for about 2 years now, and have been very well pleased with them. They work well in all the conditions I've been in. I am not an offroad fanatic, so I haven't gone rock crawling or beach cruising. They've handled snow & rain without issue or incident. They handle cornering harder than I should just fine. They've driven around the farms and such superbly. They have worn well, and balanced well.

I described them as Firestone/Bridgestone because I've had to order them from a Firestone dealer as bridgestone tires, yet they came clearly marked Firestone.

I would buy another set in a heartbeat.

Re: New tires - help me decide [Re: MRT100] #840866 10/19/07 05:02 PM
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speedlever Offline
Similar driving environment for me.

I got 75k out of the factory Dunlop Grand Treks. I replaced them with Michelin LTX and have 40k+ on them with no issues what-so-ever. Lots of wear left. I expect 75k out of these too. Factory and replacement tires were P265/70R16... and my odometer has always read about 2 mph faster than actual speed (compared to roadside radar signs and my GPS).

On installation I have alignment and balance done. Balance and alignment remain perfect. I rotate every 7500 miles. Check the tire pressure when I think about it (not often).

I'm happy with them.

Last edited by speedlever; 10/19/07 05:05 PM.

White '98 T100 SR5 4x4 ExCab Auto - wrecked.
2008 Honda Ridgeline RTS replaced the T100.

Re: New tires - help me decide [Re: speedlever] #840867 10/20/07 06:33 AM
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Posts: 41
RichieRich Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
when I went through this I found I could get Take-offs for 400 bucks or so with rims. now when I buy more tires I will do that and change the look of the truck every year n a half.

07 Mercedes GL 450
93 Freightliner FL 70 C/C 8.3 cummins, allison auto
96 Toyota T100 4x4 xtra cab v6 5 spd
05 KZ 41kx2 NV Toy Hauler 14'garage 43'of 5r
04 polaris 500 HO 50th year limited
02 polaris 500 HO
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Re: New tires - help me decide [Re: RichieRich] #840868 11/07/07 06:31 PM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 24
MRT100 Offline OP
Need a Spot
Finally, it is done.

I went for Firestone Destination A/T 265/70R16
on my T100 4WD

Purchased and installed at local Expert Tire shop (one of Firestone shops).
Paid about $660.00 installed, with road hazard, rotation for life, old tires disposed.
Price above is based on $125.00 per tire.

Although everything looks OK Id say there are few things to consider.
One - Check with competitors before committing to the job. I saved about 60 bucks on tires alone.
Two find a shop WITH GSP9700 (load force balancer from Hunter) and make sure this machine IS used.

I had to rebalance one wheel after Expert Tire job.
One of the wheels had lots of weights installed.
I inquired about it at local Toyota dealership when having my rear breaks adjusted.
Id asked them to check on it using GSP9700.
And of course the wheel was out of balance despite all the weights.
Out of balance is one thing but out of shape even worse. It was like riding on egg.
The manager in the dealership let me watch a tech working.
What an eye opener that was.
I will never go for spin balancing again, even for smaller wheels.

Go to http://www.gsp9700.com/pub/search/findgsp9700.cfm for shops with this machine.

One more thing. Ask for pricing of course.
Toyota dealership about $40.00 per wheel
TIRE WAREHOUSE (tire shop) - $ 28.00 per wheel
Local Honda dealership - $18.00

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