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WTK: regearing '86 from 410 to 488 or 456 cheapest route #842271 10/18/07 04:01 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 40
Rudi Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Greetings after a long deployment...I'm back in style.

I'm still trying to debate and trying to find the most cost efficient route to regear my 4runner.

I've been thinking about that guy in Washington with the complete pumpkin setup for 400-600 each for front and back ready to go with YUKON gears. Or get the gears themselves and give it a local shop here. My shade tree mechanic says he can possibly do it but.

Or I have heard that I can get a 4:56 from another toy truck for 7.5 front and 8 rear from a yard and itll be good to go.

I'm running BFG AT 32" and I can tell its sucky running with the 22re.

anyways....all and any help appreciated dudes.

From the Off-Road World
Re: WTK: regearing '86 from 410 to 488 or 456 cheapest route [Re: Rudi] #842272 10/18/07 04:07 PM
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4Crawler Offline
Web Wheeler
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Yes, 4.56 or 4.88 gears are fond in pickups/4Runners with the 31" factory tire option and manual or automatic transmissions respectively.

Re: WTK: regearing '86 from 410 to 488 or 456 cheapest route [Re: 4Crawler] #842273 10/18/07 05:03 PM
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Posts: 40
Rudi Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
HI thanks for the reply Rog..was wondering can you can pin point which years specifically I should look for?

They should be mainly 22re's correct and not the V6's?

Re: WTK: regearing '86 from 410 to 488 or 456 cheapest route [Re: Rudi] #842274 10/18/07 05:51 PM
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4Crawler Offline
Web Wheeler
*****
I think those were available in the 90's, engine makes no difference, but likely more V6s. Look for the axle code on the model info sticker:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ToyVIN.shtml

and try http://www.car-part.com/ to search.

Re: WTK: regearing '86 from 410 to 488 or 456 cheapest route [Re: 4Crawler] #842275 10/18/07 06:16 PM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,686
Staceman Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Here's a front 4.56 ready to ship (found on car-part.com)
Plug-n-play with your front end (manual hubs) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Quote
1993
Carrier
Toyota Truck 4.56 B0416 $40 Pickup City, Inc. USA-WV(White-Hall) E-mail 1-888-733-2540


And for the rear (4.56)

Quote
1991
Carrier
Toyota 4Runner Axl, 4X4, 6 Cyl, w/o ABS; 4.56 ratio--B A E071 $150 All Foreign Auto Parts, Inc. USA-TX(San-Antonio) Request_Quote 1-800-833-4941/1-210-623-5000 Request_Insurance_Quote


No break-in required. Just run-em (as ZUK told me when I did the same thing to my 4Runner)


85 4Runner - With NEW Marlin 4.7 Gears!! It's a whole new beast!
Re: WTK: regearing '86 from 410 to 488 or 456 cheapest route [Re: Rudi] #842276 10/19/07 12:59 AM
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Posts: 3,568
Snowtoy Offline
Roll Me Over
The 4.56 gears were available in '89-'95(non-Taco's) and '90-'95 Runners that came with the 3.0 w/31" tires and a 5-spd, they were also in '90-'95 Runners w/3.0 and auto with stock gears. The 4.88's camer in the same years above but were only in rigs with the 31's and auto tranny. I am not sure if the 31's were an option for the 22re's, I have never seen one.

With 32's and the 22re I would opt for the 4.88's over the 4.56's, this would give you better prformance with the 22re.

I wouldn't have an unexperienced mechanic swap my gears, unless he is willing to warranty his work. Setting up gears right takes experience, or the willingness to pull the diffs if the gears are set up wrong and try ity again. I had a buddy who was a mechanic blow 2 sets of gears before finally getting them set right. Bench labor shouldn't be more than about $150/diff to have a qualified shop set the gears.

The $4-600 seems a bit high for used diffs, the front should only be about $150-200, and the rear about $300, unless it is a V-6 rear, or they are set up with lockers.


More than tread lightly. Leave it like you were never there, nor anyone else.
'90 X-cab 4.88's 33 BFG AT's, rr ARB, Headers, Ignition upgrade, cold air induction.
'91 X-cab 5.29's 315's BFG MT's, rr ARB, custom bumper and flatbed
Re: WTK: regearing '86 from 410 to 488 or 456 cheapest route [Re: Snowtoy] #842277 10/21/07 11:35 AM
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Posts: 396
Ganoid Offline
Mudrunner
Buying used diffs in our area sucks. I would opt for a new set of gears and bearings from some place like PORC
They sell a toyota R+P package for $399 with master install kits.


90 Xcab V6
3.0 Rebuilt/Balanced
P/P w/OS valves
Downey Hdrs,Jacobs Ign
5.29's,Tru Trac+Lockright
4"TG SAS+Rear Kit on 35's
(DOA Racing = $1200 lesson <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" />)
www.performancecylinderheads.com
Re: WTK: regearing '86 from 410 to 488 or 456 cheapest route [Re: Rudi] #842278 10/22/07 03:38 AM
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Posts: 1,520
Robinhood150 Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Here's a guy who might be selling his factory 4.88s soon.

http://www.ultimateyota.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=2790.0


Steve
My Website ||Gettin' off 4wheel drive club member
'93 4Runner V6 4x4 auto tranny
If you have to ask about a SAS, you're not ready for it.
Re: WTK: regearing '86 from 410 to 488 or 456 cheapest route [Re: Rudi] #842279 10/22/07 05:27 AM
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 90
Vonka Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
I got 4:56 from the yard and it runs perfect with my 31 x 12.5 tires.I got the whole front axle and frame cut with everything in tact and the rear pumpkin for $400.I was running 4:88 but the 4:56 gears runs better also getting 21 mpg.


88 4x4 22re
86 2wd 1-ton 22re
91 2wd 22re
Re: WTK: regearing '86 from 410 to 488 or 456 cheapest route [Re: Rudi] #842280 10/22/07 05:37 AM
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Posts: 15,887
kewlynx Offline
Toyota & Classifieds Moderator
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$4-600, and you have to install them? Someone sees your deployment moola. Welcome home btw. All the business guys up here had dollar signs in their eyes when the Stryker dudes got back this summer. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

What kind of warranty, if any?

Junker diffs up here are $400, but the yards are pretty cleaned out. Shop around.

www.ringpinion.com
www.gearinstalls.com Zuk's site

My project truck is set up with 4.56's and 31x10.50's. I'm not interested in anything bigger to try and heave into the back by myself.

My plugged nickels; the pumpkins from behind a 6-banger are a little tougher too.


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