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Turbo-ing a 2.6 schooling #857979 01/06/08 04:11 PM
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4xToy Offline OP
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I have done a lot of searching this morning and have found a ton of info. I guess I am just a dumb <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" /> when it comes to turbo though cause most of what I read makes no since to me.

What I do know is that a turbo works off of the exhaust to spin a turbine which is routed to the intake system and it forces more air into the intake system which in turn calls for more fuel and causes more detionation equalling more power produced. And also....well nevermind thats about all I know. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

What I don't know is all the technical dynamics of making an efficent turbo system work.

I have thought about putting a very conservative turbo on the 2.6 in my P'up. All I'm looking for is a few more ponys to get power-to-weight ratio up a bit. My P'up is a Daily driver so dependability and efficientcy is key here.

I have a neighbor that I helped pull a Chrysler 2.5 factory turbo engine out of his Caravan. He was going to put the engine in a car but that fell through so I may be able to pick up all of his turbo parts if I can make them work on a 2.6. His motor however has a forged crank and rods and he was running anywhere from 9-16lbs of boost. No where near what I want.

Anyway could some turbo savy pepole dumb-it-down for me and help me understand what it is I need to do to turbo my 2.6? In the mean time I'm gonna hit the WWW and learn a bit more.

Thanks, Chad


-Chad

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Re: Turbo-ing a 2.6 schooling [Re: 4xToy] #857980 01/06/08 05:29 PM
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paulevans76 Offline
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search impulse turbo. houlster did a lot of turbo and supercharger stuff on his amigo before he swapped out his 2.6.


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Re: Turbo-ing a 2.6 schooling [Re: paulevans76] #857981 01/06/08 06:17 PM
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lttlbddy Offline
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search impulse turbo. houlster did a lot of turbo and supercharger stuff on his amigo before he swapped out his 2.6.


Dan's Turbo Pages

Re: Turbo-ing a 2.6 schooling [Re: lttlbddy] #857982 01/07/08 03:28 AM
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Curtis Johnson Offline
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Ok Chad, you had to ask didn’t you!

Maybe you just need to come down here and spend a day or two in my shop.

Here's what mine looks like. It's an Isuzu 4 cylinder 4ZE1 2.3 Liter Intercooled Turbo Gas 4ZE1 motor for my 89 Trooper.

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

I can't find my pictures of the left side of the engine that shows the turbo. It's under the intercooler that is on top of the engine. I'll guess I'd better get some more of the other side before I stick it in the truck for the last time. Cause it's really hidden in there.

Jerry and I built this about 3 years ago. It has a lot of secret stuff in it that I won’t disclose here, but it is complete and ready to run. It’s for Melissa’s truck. Which is under construction as I type?

Here it is in the Trooper for a fitment for the intercooler hood vent.

[Linked Image]

This engine is not a 2.6 though. It’s a 2.3L with a 2.6 L head and Fuel injection. This way we can keep the boost down and hopefully keep the detonation at bay with just a pop off valve.
The turbo and the exhaust manifold are off a 1.8L Isuzu car. Kind of small for a 2.3 L but with it should all balance out.

Our best guess for the power output should be around 260 to 300 horses.

Since this will be driven by the wife we didn’t want to build a rocket ship she couldn’t control. It will have a 4L30 4 speed behind it.

So, I guess to answer your question. Yes, you can turbo an Isuzu 4ZE1. Either like Dan did in his Arizona based Frankenstein Shop, or like I did here in Texas in the “Ridiculous Equipment Skunk Works”!


Curtis
The Ridiculous Gadget Master! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by Curtis Johnson; 01/07/08 12:57 PM.
Re: Turbo-ing a 2.6 schooling [Re: Curtis Johnson] #857983 01/07/08 05:13 AM
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It will have a 4L30 4 speed behind it.


How about a little more info on how you're mating a 60* bellhousing tranny to the 4ZE1 <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" />


Sean Strawmyer
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Re: Turbo-ing a 2.6 schooling [Re: strawmyers] #857984 01/07/08 06:28 AM
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lttlbddy Offline
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And just to keep everyone honest, Dan is working out of AZ.

Re: Turbo-ing a 2.6 schooling [Re: strawmyers] #857985 01/07/08 12:55 PM
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Curtis Johnson Offline
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Quote
It will have a 4L30 4 speed behind it.


How about a little more info on how you're mating a 60* bellhousing tranny to the 4ZE1 <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" />



Here's some reading for you.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7702682#post7702682


Quote
And just to keep everyone honest, Dan is working out of AZ.


(insert Simpons voice here) Dooooh!

I knew that. It was really late and I was in a hurry when I typed that. Kinda like now, only it's early and, I'm still in a huurry. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
Sorry Dan. I'll change that fact.

Thanks for setting the record straight!
Curtis

Last edited by Curtis Johnson; 01/07/08 12:59 PM.

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Re: Turbo-ing a 2.6 schooling [Re: Curtis Johnson] #857986 01/07/08 01:40 PM
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strawmyers Offline
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That didn't tell me much about bolting a 60* tranny to a 4ZE1 <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> I have never messed with auto trannies; but it would appear that the 4L30E has a removal bell. I assume the rare bellhousing you make reference to is the connecting link in the process? Does it look like this... because if it does I have one too <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

[Linked Image]

I know the above enables you to attach a few AW variants to the 2.6. I'm keeping it around for the potential to go AW4 + D300 at some point.


Sean Strawmyer
Back and ready to rock...... crawl.

From Indiana or surrounding states and interested in wheelin'? Check out www.mwior.com

Re: Turbo-ing a 2.6 schooling [Re: strawmyers] #857987 01/07/08 08:08 PM
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Curtis Johnson Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Sean, I can't find any decent pictures of the 4L30 I have to show you. They must have been in my other computer that crashed.

Tell you what. I'll get take more and send them to you.

Might even bolt the 2.3 up to it to prove I'm not smoking something. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
I need to move that engine over to the other frame anyway. May as well store the tranny behind while I'm at it.

Gimme a day or two.

Curtis


Just call me The Gadget Master!![/b]
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Re: Turbo-ing a 2.6 schooling [Re: Curtis Johnson] #857988 01/08/08 01:23 AM
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reran Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Curtis,
Is there a reason you're not going with the AW auto tranny? With Jerry's help, I'm planning on using the turbo from a 2.0 Impulse on my 2.6 with the AW auto. I have an 89 Trooper project, as well. I thought the AW was the better trans. I'd appreciate hearing your reasoning. Thx.
Leland


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89 Trooper S, 2.6, auto, work in progress
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