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Location of OBD connector #877358 03/26/08 03:35 AM
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Zarniwoop Offline OP
Need a Spot
Hi All,

In an attempt to find out why my Kia won't start I've bought an OBD code reader, but can I find the connector??? Can I heck!

Before I start to disassemble my dash could someone please post a picture as I've looked everywhere?

For what it's worth this is a Australian right hand drive, long body, 2000 model.



Cheers

Andrew

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Re: Location of OBD connector [Re: Zarniwoop] #877359 03/26/08 03:54 AM
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Iron Offline
Rock Warrior
OK! 96 and onward (North American models) was OBDII with the connector under the drivers side knee airbag, very visiable


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However you might have a OBDI car, not sure about the land of OZ but other areas of the world didn't switch to OBDII till as late as 2002

If so there is a data port in the engine bay, you can use a jumper wire between to connectors and have the comp 'flash' the code via the CEL.


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Re: Location of OBD connector [Re: Iron] #877360 03/26/08 05:35 AM
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My OBD connector is definitely not that obvious. I have a diagnostics port in the engine bay near the battery, does mean my vehicle is definitely OBDI?

If so then using the pinning info on this site: http://www.troublecodes.net/Kia/ I just tried to read the codes out: nothing. But this site says you need to start and run the vehicle for 3 minutes which is going to be tricky considering it won't start at all.

Any advice on whether this vehicle is OBD1 or 2 and from there where the connector might be or how I read the fault codes from an OBD1 vehicle without starting it???

There isn't any plate or sticker under the bonnet that says OBDII but I don't know if this was a requirement outside of the US.


Cheers

Andrew

Re: Location of OBD connector [Re: Zarniwoop] #877361 03/26/08 01:52 PM
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Iron Offline
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Well i'd have to say if you don't have an OBDII port then you don't have an OBDII car.

Have you checked that the timing belt is still intact, and that you don't have loose connector.

Will she turn over but not catch, or won't crank at all?


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Re: Location of OBD connector [Re: Iron] #877362 03/26/08 08:14 PM
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Zarniwoop Offline OP
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So far the timing belt is ok, I have fuel coming out of the filter (replaced fuel filter anyway), voltage at fuel pump is ok and about ~3A going to the pump when the engine is turned over. I have sparks at number 1 and 3 plugs and all the fuses are ok. It turns over fine but will not start, it died in mid traffic so I think the immobilizer is an unlikely cause.

Any ideas very welcome.


Cheers

Andrew

Re: Location of OBD connector [Re: Zarniwoop] #877363 03/26/08 08:30 PM
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Did you check the MAF? I have not tried with the Kia but I know with the mazda I drove for a while it would NOT run with the MAF not working.

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Re: Location of OBD connector [Re: Nukeiridium] #877364 03/26/08 08:49 PM
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Zarniwoop Offline OP
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No I haven't, is there anyway to check it without running the vehicle? As I note the service manual requires the vehicle to be running to check the voltage range.

Re: Location of OBD connector [Re: Zarniwoop] #877365 03/26/08 10:14 PM
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jaybur Offline
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not sure the maf would cause it not to start, one time when I was working on my nissan maxima, 1998 , I forgot to hook the maf back up after installing a starter (yea its buried) anyway, it started and idled fine, but anything over 1000 rpms made the car run like crap, so much that it would actually slow down, popped the plug back in the maf and off i went.

not sure if the maf is similar for the kia in relation to it not starting


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Re: Location of OBD connector [Re: Zarniwoop] #877366 03/27/08 06:12 AM
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bombardj1 Offline
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when you changed the fule filler was there any back presser ? if not check to see if the pump is working not just voltage and amps at it.

Re: Location of OBD connector [Re: Zarniwoop] #877367 03/27/08 06:17 AM
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bombardj1 Offline
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my 2001 has a vac. line on the intake I would try just a light spray of starter fld to see if it would try and start, if it does i would think fuel somewhere

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