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long block warranty #886588 05/20/08 05:30 AM
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HuntingRig Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
I am getting ready to put in a rebuilt 22RE long block from Sun West and after reading over the paper work I was highly disappointed that I have to have a certified mechanic perform some engine work. I bought the engine because it came with a 3 year or 30K mile warranty & I assumed I would not have to use a mechanic to do any of the work. It is my fault for not asking the right questions before I dropped the money but I am feeling a little wierd about taking my 4runner to a mechanic. Upon installation they want an odometer reading and a four gas test done. Then they want the valves readjusted and a few others things done that are probably going to cost me at least a few hundred bucks. I am thinking about just doing everything myself and calling it a day but damn I don't want to kill the warranty (atleast with my luck). I do understand their stand point of covering themselves for improper installment and or use.

If you purchased from them what did you do? And if you haven't would you just say screw it and do the simple work yourself?

Just curious because I don't like the idea of anyone working on my 4runner...

Thanks!

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Re: long block warranty [Re: HuntingRig] #886589 05/20/08 06:06 AM
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Do the work yourself; you're not in Washington. Yep, note the odometer reading. I'm guessing a 4 gas test is an emissions test- anyone? You can adjust the valves and retorque the head after break-in yourself.

There's the long block, yes, BUT then there's the stuff you bolt back ONTO it. Has the intake had the carbon cleaned out, manifolds checked for warpage, all that stuff? Fuel injector harness splices removed and soldered? T'body cleaned and TPS/MAF checked for serviceability?

The condition of the stuff above is the responsibility of the installer. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />

I go thru a long block with a torque wrench and make sure everything to that point has been assembled properly, then chase the bolt holes for the manifolds, flywheel, oil pan bolts, etc to make sure nothing is gaffed before putting the accessories on.

That's coming from someone who is 2673 miles from Spokane/Medical Lake.


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Re: long block warranty [Re: kewlynx] #886590 05/20/08 06:41 AM
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HuntingRig Offline OP
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All I am waiting for is a throw out bearing and it is getting bolted down. I have basically everything new and installed other tha n the engine mounted to the trany. New altenator, battery, cables, ignition coil, dist cap, rotor, wires, plugs, sensors(knock, temp, O2 and oil pressure), water pump, flywheel, clutch, radiator, fuel pump, fuel lines, coolant lines, vaccum lines, power steering pump and lines. I am reusing the throttle body & exhaust manifold but I did clean them both up a bit and switched out the screws on the TPS. The throttle body seemed to be operating great before I decided to jump off the cliff(although I know I might have to adjust the TPS).

Again, the engine is sitting on the lift waiting for me to slap it in which does not cause a void in the warranty but if I don't get the stuff done by a certified mechanic after installation then it is history.

Thanks for the advise!

Re: long block warranty [Re: kewlynx] #886591 05/20/08 07:50 AM
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Do the work yourself; you're not in Washington.


Just out of curiosity, why does that matter?

Re: long block warranty [Re: VanillaTHUNDA] #886592 05/20/08 08:05 AM
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Emissions, and possibly something to do with lemon laws with regard to warranties; can't remember the proper term.

That's why that 4 gas test has me a bit puzzled. I've never seen that in a warranty. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


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Re: long block warranty [Re: kewlynx] #886593 05/20/08 05:08 PM
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That's why that 4 gas test has me a bit puzzled. I've never seen that in a warranty. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


My guess is it is done to show the engine is not running too rich or lean.

Re: long block warranty [Re: HuntingRig] #886594 05/20/08 07:19 PM
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SALMONHEAD Offline
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They seem like reasonable folks at Sunwest. Did you try calling them up to discuss the situation? Let us know how that goes. Did you go for the standard rebuild or the HIPO version?

Thanks


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Re: long block warranty [Re: SALMONHEAD] #886595 05/20/08 08:54 PM
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HuntingRig Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Yeah, I am going to call them up and discuss it with them. I agree they do seem like nice folks and I don't want this post to reflect any negativity towards them.

I purchased the engine with a new head and RV cam.

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Re: long block warranty [Re: HuntingRig] #886596 06/01/08 04:14 PM
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I have found it to be a common practice when buying things with a warranty--that they must be installed by "professionals." I recently went through this with a radiator I was trying to warranty. The company wouldn't do anything for me becuase I installed it myself and removed it myself. I would have had to pay a "professional" to do the work, ship it, and then, and only then, would the radiator company inspect it and determine whether they felt like covering it. The moral of the story is I would have spent more money paying someone else for installation, removal, and shipping, than I would have on a new radiator.

The only things I really ever get a warranty on when I install the part myself is stuff from the parts stores, and if I bring and engine to a machine shop myself.

You'd probably end up paying someone else several hundred dollars to install the engine for you. I, personally, would just install it myself. I've had too many problems with the "professionals" and I tend to trust my own work more than I do a stranger just getting paid by the hour and not really caring about the vehicle they are working on.

Re: long block warranty [Re: HuntingRig] #886597 06/01/08 06:54 PM
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wsquaredodie Offline
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Got a friendly shop? Have them give you a bill for doing the job and forget about it.


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