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22R performance: is it worth it? #900392
08/14/08 06:33 AM
08/14/08 06:33 AM
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Knucklepin  Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 25
Tennessee
My '83 is definatly going to have a little new life breathed into it. My 22R is still clicking right along, but it just doesn't satisfy. I've built a chevy V8 converted toyota, so I know exactly what the cost is to build a strong 350 with plenty of high-performance parts. Here's the problem: I don't want another V8, but to build a performance 22R is going to cost almost as much? I've thought about going with a 4.3, but gas milage and another conversion and bla bla and so fourth and so on makes it just too much trouble. Any specific areas where I can focus my money to get the most horsepower on the cheap? I know that most chevy horsepower is in the heads, same for the 22R? What do I need to avoid? What "high performance" parts are bogus? Any info is helpful, so "thank ya'll" right up front.


If a man throws a wrench and no one is there to see it; does it still count as pitching a fit?
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Re: 22R performance: is it worth it? [Re: Knucklepin] #900393
08/14/08 07:37 AM
08/14/08 07:37 AM
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Davepet  Offline
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Posts: 457
Northern Calif
Check out engnbldr's post in the toyota tech section: http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showf...p;amp;sb=5&o=all&fpart=1

He pretty much wrote the book on 22R performance.

Dave

Last edited by Davepet; 08/14/08 07:42 AM.
Re: 22R performance: is it worth it? [Re: Davepet] #900394
08/14/08 03:02 PM
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Knucklepin  Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Posts: 25
Tennessee
Thank you! That was exactly what I was looking for. The guy seems really knowledgable. Reading that just did away with a bunch of preconceived notions on what I needed! What amazed me was learning how a big bore job really wouldn't pay dividends compared to other things. That was the kind of thing I was looking for: where to spend my money to get the most out of it. Thanks again.


If a man throws a wrench and no one is there to see it; does it still count as pitching a fit?
Re: 22R performance: is it worth it? [Re: Knucklepin] #900395
08/14/08 05:16 PM
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Davepet  Offline
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Northern Calif
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Thank you! That was exactly what I was looking for. The guy seems really knowledgable. Reading that just did away with a bunch of preconceived notions on what I needed! What amazed me was learning how a big bore job really wouldn't pay dividends compared to other things. That was the kind of thing I was looking for: where to spend my money to get the most out of it. Thanks again.


Your welcome, but I just pointed you to the post, engnbldr is the one you should be thanking. We are lucky to have him participating in here.

Dave

Re: 22R performance: is it worth it? [Re: Davepet] #900396
08/14/08 07:09 PM
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Staceman  Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,686
Phoenix, Az
X2 !


85 4Runner - With NEW Marlin 4.7 Gears!! It's a whole new beast!
Re: 22R performance: is it worth it? [Re: Staceman] #900397
08/14/08 08:40 PM
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Snowtoy  Online Content
Roll Me Over
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Grass Valley, CA
X3

A buddy of mine followed EB's advice for the performance build, and gains were very noticeable in his '84 x-cab turning 37's. Unfortunately he didn't get to enjoy the gains for very long, his rig was stolen less than 4 months after the rebuild.


More than tread lightly. Leave it like you were never there, nor anyone else.
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Re: 22R performance: is it worth it? [Re: Snowtoy] #900398
08/14/08 10:05 PM
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engnbldr  Offline
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Posts: 3,576
1800 acre island at the Oregon... *****
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A buddy of mine followed EB's advice for the performance build, and gains were very noticeable in his '84 x-cab turning 37's. Unfortunately he didn't get to enjoy the gains for very long, his rig was stolen less than 4 months after the rebuild.


>>>*You guys are giving me a big head...*LOL**...*And why does so many of my powerplants get swiped? This report makes seven of them now that I know of.

Maybe people just like to swipe *Yota's?

Remember the one rule of thumb when working on the little 22R/RE engines. They can be improved, but no matter what I or anyone else comes up with, they will never really be a hot rod.

They can be made more fun and it's nice to get over hills without wearing out the gearshift lever....*EB


*Beats the he** outa me!....*LOL**...
Re: 22R performance: is it worth it? [Re: engnbldr] #900399
08/14/08 11:27 PM
08/14/08 11:27 PM
Richards19884x4  Offline
Wheeler
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 202
Texas
EB, they are popular, but your's are the MOST popular. Stats from 3 weeks ago from the Insurance Institute (whatever that is), said that in 2007, the 1988 Toyota truck was ranked #10 on the theft list in the US. Needless to say, we have to take a lot of precautions to protect them.


Richard S.
88 Toy 4x4 Truck, 22RE, 3"BL, 5-Speed, Muds
Proud to be an American. Blessed to be a Texan!
Re: 22R performance: is it worth it? [Re: Richards19884x4] #900400
08/15/08 01:01 AM
08/15/08 01:01 AM
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PETE_YK  Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 87
Northwest Territories , Canada
They are easy to steal, thats why. In fact almost easier than stealing a snowmobile or a bike <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Its amazing what some shithead can do with a screw driver <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


88' Xtra cab, 22RE, 5 spd, alumi flat deck, 3" BL, 35" muds...awaiting SAS.

'02 Ram, 4.7, REV 'Shooter' wheels wrapped with M.T. Baja claws.
Re: 22R performance: is it worth it? [Re: Richards19884x4] #900401
08/15/08 04:22 PM
08/15/08 04:22 PM
engnbldr  Offline
Roll Me Over
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,576
1800 acre island at the Oregon... *****
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EB, they are popular, but your's are the MOST popular. Stats from 3 weeks ago from the Insurance Institute (whatever that is), said that in 2007, the 1988 Toyota truck was ranked #10 on the theft list in the US. Needless to say, we have to take a lot of precautions to protect them.


>>>*Well, it's story time, although I think I told this one once before.. I remember heading home one night in my old truck, my Dog Sam on the seat. She was brindle colored, about the same color as my seats.

I was hungry so I stopped at a 7-11 for some snacks.

I parked over in the corner, when I came out some guy with long hair was standing there, his arm in the wing window and a funny look on his face. His mouth was working but no sound was coming out.

I walked up, my Dog Sam had ahold of his arm, all four feet set and nothing on the face of the Earth could ever get her to let go, except me.

Pit Bull, you see.

I gave her the command, "wait!" at which point she let go. The guy pulled out his arm and looked at me, he seemed a bit frightened. He looked at his hand, it was bleeding pretty nicely.

I grinned at him, said, "Ya'all have a nice day."...got in my truck and went home.

Sam knew she was going to get a cookie. I swear that Dog was smiling. This is a true story, I didn't smack the guy or even really say much, no need to.

*But it was sure funny!.... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />...*EB


*Beats the he** outa me!....*LOL**...
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