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#904897 - 09/10/08 06:47 AM Gen 1 to Gen 2 brake upgrade.  
Grasscat  Offline
Roll Me Over
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,649
Livermore, Ca ****
I did not have any Gen 2 parts for this upgrade, so I modified what I had. I will replace these modified parts when they show up at my local wrecking yard.
Using yellow handle tin snips for the backing plates and my hand held cut off wheel for the clips, this is what happen.

Top of the backing plate without being cut.

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Top of the backing plate after being cut.

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Bottom of the backing plate without being cut.

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Bottom of the backing plate after being cut.

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I had to bend the hard brake line just a little bit to get it to fit. I also modified the brake line clips by cutting off one of the legs. Swap the left one to the right side and the right to the left side. The next picture show the clip and hard line in place.


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I did go back and smooth up the edges.

All part (1995 Gen 2 3L) were purchased from NAPA.

I notice when pulling my boat today, that this was worth the effort.

EDIT: It's been discovered that you need to also verify the brake rotor is thick enough so your pads (once worn down) won't slip out between the caliper housing and rotor <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />. You MUST REVIEW that thread before performing this mod.


Last edited by off-roader; 05/29/11 06:02 PM.

Michael j

TreadLightly! Trainer

Grasscat III, 1994 Gen 2 Five speed, Stock ( for a little while )

GrassCat II, 1998 Gen 2.5 Locked and loaded. Ran off with Hector.

GrassCat I, 1991 Gen 1 Ran off with Justice.


#904898 - 09/10/08 01:04 PM Re: Gen 1 to Gen 2 brake upgrade. [Re: Grasscat]  
hazy_daze  Offline
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Athens, Georgia *****
Looks great Michael! You will definitely feel the difference. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


Fasteddy's advice is occasionally sound...

#904899 - 09/10/08 09:13 PM Re: Gen 1 to Gen 2 brake upgrade. [Re: Grasscat]  
LRJ4x4  Offline
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Joined: Dec 2001
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Monterey, CA *****
Nice job ! So your telling me I rode thru the Sierra's and 26% grade and your brakes were sub par <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />

I have to ding you for a FFI ( failure to follow instructions)
the box clearly states "Do not lay flat" <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


98 Montero with cold weather package
96 Toyota Land Cruiser, fully locked Mall Machine :-)

#904900 - 09/10/08 10:20 PM Re: Gen 1 to Gen 2 brake upgrade. [Re: LRJ4x4]  
Grasscat  Offline
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Quote
So your telling me I rode thru the Sierra's and 26% grade and your brakes were sub par


Yes Sir, that the truth, scary Huh?


Quote
I have to ding you for a FFI ( failure to follow instructions)
the box clearly states "Do not lay flat"


I was wondering who would notice that. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


Michael j

TreadLightly! Trainer

Grasscat III, 1994 Gen 2 Five speed, Stock ( for a little while )

GrassCat II, 1998 Gen 2.5 Locked and loaded. Ran off with Hector.

GrassCat I, 1991 Gen 1 Ran off with Justice.

#904901 - 09/10/08 10:28 PM Re: Gen 1 to Gen 2 brake upgrade. [Re: Grasscat]  
hazy_daze  Offline
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Quote
Quote
I have to ding you for a FFI ( failure to follow instructions)
the box clearly states "Do not lay flat"


I was wondering who would notice that. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


Noticed it and thought about commenting. But, thought I might have come across as an <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" />. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


Fasteddy's advice is occasionally sound...

#904902 - 09/10/08 10:59 PM Re: Gen 1 to Gen 2 brake upgrade. [Re: Grasscat]  
KrzyDav  Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,314
SLO County, CA 93453 *****
I put M.Sport front calipers on my SWB 89 3.0.( THey are exactly the same calipers on gen 2s)
I trimmed my original dust shields, too. I was concerned a blob of grease from the ball joint might get on the rotors and contaminate the pads, because of how much protection I removed. I went back and got the dust shields off the M.Sport and put them on last week.

The shield bolt holes lined up with the knuckle, except the top one that bolts to the caliper is off about 3/16".
I installed new Gen 1 brake hoses and they work fine. I didn't have to bend and metal breaklines, I just kept the metal lines and brakets on that came with the M.Sport's Calipers.
On the new shields I had to trim off a pie shaped piece about an inch long on the bottom of the shield, cutting along a crimp from the edge all the way to the edge of the crimped circle center area .
The bottom of the new shield overlaped the bottom part of the caliper.
I got the brake parts off a 98 2wd M.Sport. Same brakes ,,,easier to work on/ remove...


dave h.
'89 Raider V6 5spd;Aisin Hubs;M.Sport(=LS)frt. calipers; Gen2 LS: rear coils;U.C.arms;R.trailing arms;idler arm; rear LSD axle w.disc brakes;2 battery system for Dog's fan; relocated ECU; custom bumpers;J.Baker receiver;Conferr roofrack; t-bar crank.


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