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3.0L - crank pulley removal? #929647
02/05/09 03:56 PM
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89IsMine  Offline OP
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I'm slowly dismantling the front end of the Raider to replace the timing belt and water pump. Last night I broke the crank pulley bolt loose with the help of my home-made tool to hold the pulley stationary -- mucho thanks to you guys who posted pictures back in the day <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

However, the pulley/harmonic balancer is tight on the crankshaft. How do I go about getting it off? The FSM is silent about this, and my Haynes manual (bless its little heart) says use the special harmonic balancer tool or steering wheel puller to remove the pulley. I could sure use some simple straightforward instructions from those who have done it before.

Thanks!

Eric W.


'89 Dodge Raider -- 3.0L V6, MT, SWB
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Re: 3.0L - crank pulley removal? [Re: 89IsMine] #929648
02/05/09 04:04 PM
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hazy_daze  Offline
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Last time mine didn't come right off, I doused it with PB and tapped it a couple times with a rubber mallet. Not too hard though.


Fasteddy's advice is occasionally sound...
Re: 3.0L - crank pulley removal? [Re: hazy_daze] #929649
02/05/09 04:10 PM
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Renegade  Offline
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New York, Long Island
You can usally rent a pully puller from your local auto store, or purchase one. Though I have never removed the crank pully on this engine I have removed it on several others and the puller works out good just make sure you grip from the back of the pully not from the front lip, if you do that you will break pieces off, and make sure you dont lose the coin alining the pully up. Good Luck


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Re: 3.0L - crank pulley removal? [Re: hazy_daze] #929650
02/05/09 10:16 PM
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grass13  Offline
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Last time mine didn't come right off, I doused it with PB and tapped it a couple times with a rubber mallet. Not too hard though.

ditto...
dunno if you know or not, but get the updated bolt for the csp when you are ready to put her back together.


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Re: 3.0L - crank pulley removal? [Re: grass13] #929651
02/05/09 10:59 PM
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fasteddy  Offline
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There's an easier way to get the bolt loose. Rest a breaker bar handle on the frame rail, socket on the bolt. Bump the starter once lightly, and it's done...

Since I'm a barbarian, I tighten it with a BFH, ignoring torque. Never had one come loose, even when I left the ratchet on the bolt. Ever heard a ratchet at 1500rpms?? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


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Re: 3.0L - crank pulley removal? [Re: fasteddy] #929652
02/05/09 11:20 PM
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I monitor several tool threads. Generally speaking Kroil (Kano Labs) has the best reputation for freeing rusted together bits. I did see a recommendation for a DIY half and half ATF and Acetone.


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Re: 3.0L - crank pulley removal? [Re: fasteddy] #929653
02/05/09 11:28 PM
02/05/09 11:28 PM
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89IsMine  Offline OP
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There's an easier way to get the bolt loose. Rest a breaker bar handle on the frame rail, socket on the bolt. Bump the starter once lightly, and it's done...

Since I'm a barbarian, I tighten it with a BFH, ignoring torque. Never had one come loose, even when I left the ratchet on the bolt. Ever heard a ratchet at 1500rpms?? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


Just so this thread doesn't go down the wrong path... I already have the crank bolt loose, that's not the issue. The issue is the pulley/harmonic balancer isn't coming off the crankshaft snout...

So far the answers seem to be:

1) Lots of PB Blaster and gentle tapping and eventually it will free up.
2) Buy or rent a harmonic balancer puller or pulley puller.

Regarding the harmonic balancer puller -- the ones I've looked at online are the type that thread into holes on the balancer. Are those two holes on the pulley threaded? If so, does anyone know size and thread pitch?

Any other options here? I priced a new pulley from mitsubishiparts.com <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> I would really rather reuse mine if at all possible <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />

Eric W.


'89 Dodge Raider -- 3.0L V6, MT, SWB
Re: 3.0L - crank pulley removal? [Re: 89IsMine] #929654
02/05/09 11:34 PM
02/05/09 11:34 PM
hazy_daze  Offline
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Are those two holes on the pulley threaded?


Negative. The PB and mallet will work.


Regarding reassembly, ensure you get the newest bolt and washer. If you have the new bolt, you can reuse it a couple times. But no more than that. I wouldn't use the washer more than once. It has spring to it that flattens as it's torqued down.

Bolt P/N: 1101A022
Washer P/N: MR994412
I got them both for ~$8 at the Dodge dealer.


Fasteddy's advice is occasionally sound...
Re: 3.0L - crank pulley removal? [Re: hazy_daze] #929655
02/06/09 12:17 AM
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89IsMine  Offline OP
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Regarding reassembly, ensure you get the newest bolt and washer. If you have the new bolt, you can reuse it a couple times. But no more than that. I wouldn't use the washer more than once. It has spring to it that flattens as it's torqued down.

Bolt P/N: 1101A022
Washer P/N: MR994412
I got them both for ~$8 at the Dodge dealer.


You betcha! Thanks for the part #'s. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Eric W.


'89 Dodge Raider -- 3.0L V6, MT, SWB
Re: 3.0L - crank pulley removal? [Re: 89IsMine] #929656
02/06/09 03:47 AM
02/06/09 03:47 AM
Renegade  Offline
Wheeler
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 126
New York, Long Island
Im not sure where u live but everytime I had to pull the harmonic balancer pully I went down to my local advance auto parts and just borrowed it. It is a very expensive and fully universal tool, it has all the atchments to pull off any pully. The parts store won't charge you unless you dont bring it back. Auto zone, and pepboys and Oriely do the same, I believe.


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