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More Questions on a 2wd/4wd Frame Difference- URGENT! #936102 03/16/09 07:33 PM

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S.E. Wisconsin

matts

Body Damage is Cool

I'm going to look at a '85 2wd xtra cab truck as a possible donor for a 4wd project. My urgent question is about a tow bar that I made to tow 4wd trucks and 4runners ('84 - '88). I made some tabs that bolt to the front of the frame on the bottom of each frame rail where factory attaches the "recovery" hook. I bolt these tabs onto the truck to be towed using factory mounting points. Then I attach my tow bar to these tabs. I've only used this on 4wd rigs. Do 2wd trucks have the same "recovery hook" mounting points on the frame? -- Matt

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Re: More Questions on a 2wd/4wd Frame Difference- URGENT! [Re: matts] #936103 03/16/09 09:23 PM

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matts

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I think it's probably too different. My tow bar is not adjustable (something I should fix). I'll probably rent a tow dolly. -- Matts

'89 4runner SR5, 3.0, auto (fun)
'93 xtra cab, dlx,3.0, 5spd (work truck)

Re: More Questions on a 2wd/4wd Frame Difference- URGENT! [Re: matts] #936104 03/16/09 09:46 PM

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Snowtoy

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The 2wd's have 2 tow tabs instead of one hook and one tab. I would think they would be the same bolt pattern, since it would keep productin costs down, but I am not 100% positive.

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Re: More Questions on a 2wd/4wd Frame Difference- URGENT! [Re: Snowtoy] #936105 03/16/09 11:09 PM

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I think they are different, although if I got off my arse, I could look at my own. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" />
The front bumper mounts are completely different on the frame side of a 2wd, but the actual factory bumper is the same piece (except for the bumper end caps).
I'll see if I can locate the mount points you're referring to on my truck.

EDIT - take a look at the pic in your other thread, if it helps.

Todd

Last edited by Elbow_Greese; 03/16/09 11:15 PM.

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Re: More Questions on a 2wd/4wd Frame Difference- URGENT! [Re: Elbow_Greese] #936106 03/16/09 11:37 PM

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Well, this picture may not be worth a thousand words, but it should give you your answer. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />

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Todd

1986 Pickup extracab longbed "Woody edition"
SAS - 33's, 5.29's, lockright rear.

02 IS300 SportCross - my "DD"
94 2wd v6 extracab
04 Outback Wagon- wife's/family car

Re: More Questions on a 2wd/4wd Frame Difference- URGENT! [Re: Elbow_Greese] #936107 03/17/09 12:41 AM

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As stated the 2wds have 2 loops instead of a loop and hook but the mounting holes are the same. I switched to an '86 2wd frame and swaped the hook over.

Re: More Questions on a 2wd/4wd Frame Difference- URGENT! [Re: Vanishing_Point] #936108 03/17/09 04:26 AM

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S.E. Wisconsin

matts

Body Damage is Cool

When I went to look at the 2wd truck I checked those tabs and they seemed to spaced about a 1/2" farther apart (25" vs 24-5/8") rail to rail, but it looks like the bolt spacings for mounting are the same. I think my tow bar would work with this. Unfortunately the truck I looked at was totally misrepresented. It was said to have a good cab and frame but it turned out to have big rust holes on the rockers and a big hole in the frame next to the gas tank. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Thanks to all who tried to help out. -- Matt

Last edited by matts; 03/17/09 04:27 AM.

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Re: More Questions on a 2wd/4wd Frame Difference- URGENT! [Re: matts] #936109 03/17/09 11:01 PM

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