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Re: 2.3L Stroker info post [Re: k120189] #938197 05/16/09 07:22 AM
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deffboy the Mazda b-series folks (used to be one myself) drop the Sportage engine in the 2200 all time and use the stock tranny with our flywheel and clutch so if our flywheel and clutch fit on their tranny i don't see why the opposite wouldn't be true in fact i think the mazda b-series clutch fits our flywheel as well so we can use our stock clutches on the b-series flywheel. i need some money to get the ball rollin i would love to be talking from experience and not just close to a year of reading


ok here is my next question, just want to make sure things are clear here.

when you say that they drop in the sporty motor and it bolts up directly to the b22oo flywheel, that would make it a 8 bolt flywheel then correct?, if that is the case, then it will not work with the f2 crank.

but if these are already stroked fe3ns that they are dropping into the mazdas, then yes it should work with the said maching mentioned by dennis.


2000 SPORTY, DEF BOY customs, mmm....lockers, mmm... gears, mmm... double transfer case, mmm... stroker
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Re: 2.3L Stroker info post [Re: fokion] #938198 05/16/09 05:16 PM
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Fokion, I am planning on using the F2 flywheel, I just need to get it modified for the crank position ring.
Dennis


95 Sportage, gone but not forgotten.
98 Jeep TJ, 4" Zone springs with RC Long arms, Ford 8.8", 4.56 gears & Detroit locker rear, D30, 4.56 & Detroit Trutrack front.
Re: 2.3L Stroker info post [Re: DennisThompson] #938199 05/17/09 04:37 PM
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k120189 Offline OP
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sorry if i misleading you deffboys i was just saying the clutches worked i had forgot all about the other ring on our flywheels.


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Re: 2.3L Stroker info post [Re: k120189] #938200 05/19/09 12:57 PM
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is there any chance that we might be looking at the wrong direction here????

Has anybody know what KIA gives aw a maximum oversized piston for the sportage???
And I mean as say standard factory ones..


I ve done some calcylations
and if the 86mm diameter is tyrned to say 90mm
we are already looking into some 2.185cc...

The advantage of using factory ( or factory like ) pistons is obvious I think...
no special rods no maching flyweels
maybe thefactory cost for pistons is high but overall it might be easier and cheeper

Last edited by fokion; 05/19/09 01:00 PM.

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Re: 2.3L Stroker info post [Re: fokion] #938201 05/19/09 02:29 PM
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we are NOT looking in the wrong direction since the maximum standard oversize piston I found was 87.5mm
that gives us a 2.065cc...

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Re: 2.3L Stroker info post [Re: fokion] #938202 05/19/09 02:38 PM
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k120189 Offline OP
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yea we are talking another 300c going from 1998cc to 2298cc. this isnt really too complicated its just alot of work im gonna bore over stroke it and turbocharge mine with a holset blower.. gonna be makin some serious power


<a href="www.pittsfieldcustomsclub.com/sportage.html" target="_blank">98 sportage</a>: warn manual hubs,upyourkia spacers, 104 tj springs, 235/75/r15 BFG T/A KO, tracker rims, cone air filter, custom cat-back with a skunk2 muffler. gonna be a 2.3L
Re: 2.3L Stroker info post [Re: k120189] #938203 05/20/09 12:45 AM
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DEFBOY35 Offline
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if boosting the engine it has been recommended by others to go with the smallest if not at all overbore possible. especially at any higher boost numbers as the cylinder walls become a week point with the larger overbores.

i think that i will be going to a 86.5 at max if needed, with the stroker, but depending on my turbo/insurance situation, i may go high compression with the pistons.


this may all start to take place sooner than i had expected as i may be ripping the motor out in the next few weekends. might make getting at my frame easier.


2000 SPORTY, DEF BOY customs, mmm....lockers, mmm... gears, mmm... double transfer case, mmm... stroker
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2377991
Re: 2.3L Stroker info post [Re: DEFBOY35] #938204 05/20/09 02:03 AM
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k120189 Offline OP
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just a mild over bore im gonna keep the boost low 15 ish psi
im looking for about 300 max hp which i think is easily obtainable


<a href="www.pittsfieldcustomsclub.com/sportage.html" target="_blank">98 sportage</a>: warn manual hubs,upyourkia spacers, 104 tj springs, 235/75/r15 BFG T/A KO, tracker rims, cone air filter, custom cat-back with a skunk2 muffler. gonna be a 2.3L
Re: 2.3L Stroker info post [Re: k120189] #938205 06/04/09 03:43 AM
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DennisThompson Offline
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Ok, I have decided to build my engine stock. I miss driving the Kia and need it back on the road and the money is just not there to build a stroker right now. After its back on the road I want to find a block and build the stroker. Keep posting up dates, I still realy wnat to build one.

Dennis


95 Sportage, gone but not forgotten.
98 Jeep TJ, 4" Zone springs with RC Long arms, Ford 8.8", 4.56 gears & Detroit locker rear, D30, 4.56 & Detroit Trutrack front.
Re: 2.3L Stroker info post [Re: DennisThompson] #938206 06/04/09 02:21 PM
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k120189 Offline OP
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yea dennis im in the same boat..only i have another complete engine sitting waiting for the money for parts and machine work


<a href="www.pittsfieldcustomsclub.com/sportage.html" target="_blank">98 sportage</a>: warn manual hubs,upyourkia spacers, 104 tj springs, 235/75/r15 BFG T/A KO, tracker rims, cone air filter, custom cat-back with a skunk2 muffler. gonna be a 2.3L
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