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New kind of lift #947137 05/28/09 09:34 PM
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k120189 Offline OP
Wheeler
so everyone talks about dropping the front diff...which doesnt seem too hard by why stop there for only an inch of lift why not drop the whole front suspension down?

im starting to design a front lift that will be in th 6-8inch range making 33-35's possible.

so far the things i foresee needing changing are:
brake lines
swaybar
maybe the drive shaft?

so help me out here i'll gladly share any blueprints i come up with and how would i go about matching that in the rear?

my thoughts are if tj 106 lift four inch then tj 3inch or so lift coils will put me where i want to be.

to me this all seems simple but i dont see it done much is there something im missing?


<a href="www.pittsfieldcustomsclub.com/sportage.html" target="_blank">98 sportage</a>: warn manual hubs,upyourkia spacers, 104 tj springs, 235/75/r15 BFG T/A KO, tracker rims, cone air filter, custom cat-back with a skunk2 muffler. gonna be a 2.3L
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Re: New kind of lift [Re: k120189] #947138 05/28/09 11:36 PM
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DennisThompson Offline
Body Damage is Cool
I have been going over something like that in my head for years and even tried to draw up some plans. I even have dif drop down brackets made. There is one part I have been having problems with, the upper control arms. I think you could make a custom pair to fit in the stock mounts but drop down mounts would be hard because the mounts on the frame are on a slight angle. Please post what you come up with, I realy want 35s on my kia. I have been thinking hard on a sas while the engine is out but I need to go wheelin soon or I'll go crazy, the Probe is fast fun but I would rather be wheelin.

Dennis


95 Sportage, gone but not forgotten.
98 Jeep TJ, 4" Zone springs with RC Long arms, Ford 8.8", 4.56 gears & Detroit locker rear, D30, 4.56 & Detroit Trutrack front.
Re: New kind of lift [Re: DennisThompson] #947139 05/29/09 02:23 AM
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DEFBOY35 Offline
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have had ample oportunity the last couple weeks to look at how it could be done and was thinking of making up some plans for this style of lift.

i was thinking of designing it to work with the rocksport or spacer lift and use the extended forks from korea, if one could get them, or have some custom machined out of billet or something.

but i was also thinking that the control arms would be new wide long travel units combined with the extended lift. so custom cvs would need to be sourced etc. drop the dif down about 2 or 3 ".

but i would not have been able to test it all in my truck anymore, so perhaps if i do get a second sporty down the road it may happen.

the rear at that height you would be looking probably new longer control arms, and shocks and the springs, and the tj lift coils is what i was toying with. might be excessively stiff though for the sporty.

how does the stock tj coils ride?


2000 SPORTY, DEF BOY customs, mmm....lockers, mmm... gears, mmm... double transfer case, mmm... stroker
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Re: New kind of lift [Re: DEFBOY35] #947140 05/29/09 02:42 AM
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k120189 Offline OP
Wheeler
my tj coils are nothing to complain about they ride nice flex good..it feels like a truck now vs something that wanted to be.i had the same idea about the extended forks too.

dennis i see what u mean im sure i can find a way around
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upper arm problem solved...problem two...

STEERING!
the steering rods pivot at a point near the lower arm as you can see..if we dropped the arm 8in we would have to drop the
rod too..or else forget bump steer it'll be bump toe hit a bump and u'll toe out major.. ideas? i'll post some of my sketches up ina bit..if you can even take anything from them

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Re: New kind of lift [Re: k120189] #947141 05/29/09 04:53 AM
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fokion Offline
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take a look at the Calmini kit for the Nissan Navara..
it will give you ideas for many things
specialy the upper thing.


'96 4d mechanicaly stock so far, rims, spoiler, Cooper AT tyres, Factory LSD, Manual Warn Hubs, handmade exaust, ELECTRIC FAN!!! 3,1'' Lift, PALM GPS
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Re: New kind of lift [Re: fokion] #947142 05/29/09 01:57 PM
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k120189 Offline OP
Wheeler
i got that figured out..two ways
will post scans later.

dennis
can u post pictures of your diff drop brackets?

deffboy is your sporty still apart? can u measure from the hole in the upper arm mount straight down to the hole in the lower arm mount. i found a was to make this work but that number would almost be the amount of lift

Last edited by k120189; 05/29/09 02:14 PM.

<a href="www.pittsfieldcustomsclub.com/sportage.html" target="_blank">98 sportage</a>: warn manual hubs,upyourkia spacers, 104 tj springs, 235/75/r15 BFG T/A KO, tracker rims, cone air filter, custom cat-back with a skunk2 muffler. gonna be a 2.3L
Re: New kind of lift [Re: k120189] #947143 05/30/09 12:50 AM
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DEFBOY35 Offline
Rock Warrior
the sport is still apart, but there is no possible way for me to take that measurement anymore at this point!

i was thinking before, that instead of dropping the uppers down, i would have machined a new upper balljoint spacer that would bolt into the top of the knuckle and correct the geometry.

Last edited by DEFBOY35; 05/30/09 12:53 AM.

2000 SPORTY, DEF BOY customs, mmm....lockers, mmm... gears, mmm... double transfer case, mmm... stroker
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2377991
Re: New kind of lift [Re: DEFBOY35] #947144 05/30/09 03:47 AM
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k120189 Offline OP
Wheeler
started the sas did ya?

i'll post a screen shot of my idea in cad in a bit


<a href="www.pittsfieldcustomsclub.com/sportage.html" target="_blank">98 sportage</a>: warn manual hubs,upyourkia spacers, 104 tj springs, 235/75/r15 BFG T/A KO, tracker rims, cone air filter, custom cat-back with a skunk2 muffler. gonna be a 2.3L
Re: New kind of lift [Re: DEFBOY35] #947145 05/30/09 06:25 AM
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fokion Offline
Body Damage is Cool
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i was thinking before, that instead of dropping the uppers down, i would have machined a new upper balljoint spacer that would bolt into the top of the knuckle and correct the geometry.


me too


'96 4d mechanicaly stock so far, rims, spoiler, Cooper AT tyres, Factory LSD, Manual Warn Hubs, handmade exaust, ELECTRIC FAN!!! 3,1'' Lift, PALM GPS
http://members.cardomain.com/fokion
Re: New kind of lift [Re: k120189] #947146 05/30/09 07:26 AM
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DEFBOY35 Offline
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2000 SPORTY, DEF BOY customs, mmm....lockers, mmm... gears, mmm... double transfer case, mmm... stroker
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2377991
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