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Re: 2.6l Gen 1 Front Axle Swap with Gen 1 V6 LSD - How Too [Re: plh] #965423 10/03/09 02:50 AM
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Re: 2.6l Gen 1 Front Axle Swap with Gen 1 V6 LSD - How Too [Re: Oyaji_Jon] #965424 10/03/09 01:26 PM
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...the Asians he sold me...


Ummmm, I don't think you can do that any more. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


oops! fixed <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


  • 88 Raider: 5 spd, 4.62 LSD F & R, T/L, OME Rear Springs, KYB G/A, 33/12.5/15" MTZs, PLH LOs, Justice Bumper, Dual Bouncies, 4D56T in -running soon!
  • 1992 RS M/T
  • 1993 SR
  • 2005 Montero LTD
  • Gen 1 - PARTS FOR SALE
  • http://www.tuffpans.com
Re: 2.6l Gen 1 Front Axle Swap with Gen 1 V6 LSD - How Too [Re: plh] #965425 10/03/09 02:30 PM
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thanks for the right up! I should be picking my 8" IFS up in a few hours <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


'88 Raider, 33" Maxxis, 2" body lift, 10K winch
Re: 2.6l Gen 1 Front Axle Swap with Gen 1 V6 LSD - How Too [Re: 0778drz110] #965426 10/04/09 12:16 AM
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thanks for the right up! I should be picking my 8" IFS up in a few hours <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

6 and a half hours later with my uncle not knowing a clue what to do we pulled it!
4.625, 107k miles, $110! giggity giggity <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
[Linked Image]

Now to buy lockout hubs, 1" BJ spacer, Gen2 arms, Gen2 brakes, and Aussie locker all to go in at once and not pull it apart 5 times <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


'88 Raider, 33" Maxxis, 2" body lift, 10K winch
Re: 2.6l Gen 1 Front Axle Swap with Gen 1 V6 LSD - How Too [Re: 0778drz110] #965427 10/04/09 01:52 AM
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plh Offline OP
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Looks nice, I hope you grabbed the driveshaft.


  • 88 Raider: 5 spd, 4.62 LSD F & R, T/L, OME Rear Springs, KYB G/A, 33/12.5/15" MTZs, PLH LOs, Justice Bumper, Dual Bouncies, 4D56T in -running soon!
  • 1992 RS M/T
  • 1993 SR
  • 2005 Montero LTD
  • Gen 1 - PARTS FOR SALE
  • http://www.tuffpans.com
Re: 2.6l Gen 1 Front Axle Swap with Gen 1 V6 LSD - How Too [Re: plh] #965428 10/04/09 03:23 AM
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damn...






<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> they're different I assume? Well, gives me an excuse to go tomorrow! I forgot some other stuff aswell... In FL they don't have as many junk cars(no rust) so I grabed it before some messican did...and I only guessed what I should need <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


'88 Raider, 33" Maxxis, 2" body lift, 10K winch
Re: 2.6l Gen 1 Front Axle Swap with Gen 1 V6 LSD - How Too [Re: plh] #965429 10/04/09 03:47 AM
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It was an early afternoon of rework, for sure not my favorite thing to do. 2 things required redo.

1. I was unpacking my parts container getting ready to get going today and noticed I had 4 brass thrust washers - crap! I forgot to install it on the already together Left side. Dropped it all apart again to reassemble.

Don't forget this:
[Linked Image]

It goes here:

[Linked Image]

2. The FSM seams a bit vague on how to assemble the Aisin hubs. First try I didn't have it correct. The FSM doesn't show that the Tension Spring needs to be wound into the Free Wheeling Hub Clutch. So I was perma locked

[Linked Image]

Finally have the whole Left side together, all the bolts properly torqued and new cotter-pins installed.

[Linked Image]

On to the driveshaft - working my way across the vehicle. I didn't see this documented anywhere. The 2.6l driveshaft is about 1" too long. It didn't bolt up - just too long. Measuring up the V6 dif quickly from the pinion flange to the cover it is almost 1" longer than the 2.6l dif.

This is the 2.6l shaft measuring 26 1/4" U Joint center to center:

[Linked Image]

This is the V6 shaft measuring 25 1/4" U Joint center to center:
[Linked Image]

Glad I still had the V6 shaft. Please note that pulling the driveshaft from the transfercase is a quick way to evacuate the lube. I have Redline all over my driveway now <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

The Left side is all together now too, but waiting for daylight to torque it up. Hopefully it is dry here on Sunday.


  • 88 Raider: 5 spd, 4.62 LSD F & R, T/L, OME Rear Springs, KYB G/A, 33/12.5/15" MTZs, PLH LOs, Justice Bumper, Dual Bouncies, 4D56T in -running soon!
  • 1992 RS M/T
  • 1993 SR
  • 2005 Montero LTD
  • Gen 1 - PARTS FOR SALE
  • http://www.tuffpans.com
Re: 2.6l Gen 1 Front Axle Swap with Gen 1 V6 LSD - How Too [Re: plh] #965430 10/04/09 03:50 AM
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plh Offline OP
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What do I fill the new dif with? I have several quarts of Mobile 1 75W 90. Is this OK?


  • 88 Raider: 5 spd, 4.62 LSD F & R, T/L, OME Rear Springs, KYB G/A, 33/12.5/15" MTZs, PLH LOs, Justice Bumper, Dual Bouncies, 4D56T in -running soon!
  • 1992 RS M/T
  • 1993 SR
  • 2005 Montero LTD
  • Gen 1 - PARTS FOR SALE
  • http://www.tuffpans.com
Re: 2.6l Gen 1 Front Axle Swap with Gen 1 V6 LSD - How Too [Re: plh] #965431 10/04/09 02:41 PM
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Good write-up! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

75-90 synthetic should work very well in the diff.

So the V6 front driveshaft fits the 4 cyl. t-case with no mods? Did that V6 25-1/4" shaft come from the same manual trans V6 Raider as the diff? Is the 4 cyl a stick or auto? Would an auto trans V6 front driveshaft be longer? Would the early 3 speed 904 auto trans 4 cylinder shaft be shorter than the stick one?

Does anyone know if the Gen 2 reverse cut front diff assy. will fit the Gen 1 4 cyl. frame in a similar manner? Would the center axle disconnect be difficult to remove? 4.88's seem to be easier to find in Gen 2's and reverse cut is stronger in a front diff application. (I'm seeing alot of these in the yards from the clunker program <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> )

What about the Montero Sport front diff? Any advantage to that one? (Alot of these showing up, too)

Re: 2.6l Gen 1 Front Axle Swap with Gen 1 V6 LSD - How Too [Re: MartySoCal] #965432 10/04/09 03:13 PM
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Grasscat and Cheif (I think) have both swapped complete early SR suspesnion into there rigs. So Id say its doable


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