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Fuel line replacement?// vehicle replacement? #974662 12/02/09 07:06 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
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metalfaced Offline OP
Wheeler
It seems difficult for me to find fuel lines for my 89 paj. does anyone know if this can be bought in bulk from NAPA or crappy tire? {parts #s plz} my old lines were shot, and i pulled it, and then went looking for a line. nothing in diesel, but the napa rep said the bulk stuff they had was dual use. it swelled up, and started looking like it was sweating! anyway, i've been trying hydraulic hose, but 1/4" is too small, and 3/8" is too big. i know the line is metric sized, 8mm i think. WHAT TO DO? as i mentioned the old line is cracked on both ends, and seems to have a fracture mid line as it sucks air. i have had enough of this vehicle, but having just mounted a plow onto it for winter, it seems i'm stuck with it. i can't wrap my mind around this at all.


1953 Willys CJ3A awaiting Buick V6 Fireball and auto trans.
1987 LWB Samurai JX rustbucket
Re: Fuel line replacement?// vehicle replacement? [Re: metalfaced] #974663 12/02/09 09:20 PM
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Mikewarme Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
That line would be cheap if the dealer still had them try calling them. I replaced a line on my truck and it was like $33 for the whole pipe. Otherwise source a used one from a scrap yard. I would much prefer a solid piupe over a hose that long.

Re: Fuel line replacement?// vehicle replacement? [Re: Mikewarme] #974664 12/02/09 10:53 PM
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metalfaced Offline OP
Wheeler
found 5/16" at a local transport shop, rated for diesel. installed it, no problem, but even after priming/bleeding out the air, no start. battery [actually both batteries] dead now. wife's delica fires up perfect everytime. anyone in sudbury in the next bit? could use some help, or might see if this can become someone else's problem.


1953 Willys CJ3A awaiting Buick V6 Fireball and auto trans.
1987 LWB Samurai JX rustbucket
Re: Fuel line replacement?// vehicle replacement? [Re: metalfaced] #974665 12/04/09 02:00 AM
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metalfaced Offline OP
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replaced three sections of fuel line, with diesel rated goodyear 5/16" line, instead of the 8mm, almost identical fit. new clamps, checked all battery leads, one was loose, and worn, replaced it, and then checked the injector at the nuts, some air in each, not much, then tried to start - click. checked the starter, and the lead was rotten, and almost non existent. cleaned the wire, crimped on a new copper lead, covered it with some old fuel line so it wouldn't arc or ground out, and just when it seemed all should be well, endless cranking, as usual for my paj, followed by smoke out the rear, but no-start. I THINK IT COULD BE THE INJECTORS/NOZZLES... could this be the source of my misery? are these easy to find? i have a running 4d53t engine - could i swap in those injectors? my paj is at 160,000kms by the way, maybe service time for injectors?


1953 Willys CJ3A awaiting Buick V6 Fireball and auto trans.
1987 LWB Samurai JX rustbucket
Re: Fuel line replacement?// vehicle replacement? [Re: metalfaced] #974666 12/04/09 02:30 AM
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Wow. I think you are tackling this problem properly, just having bad luck. If you're positive that you've gotten all air out of the system, then I'd check again just to be sure. It still sounds to me like there's air still in there somewhere, but I'm by no means an expert...

The nozzles are pretty standard, as are the components for the injectors. Mine were Zexel nozzles, and the guy at the injector place told me that Bosch nozzles were also possible for mitsus. But if you stop at the nozzles, you may not be done. I had mine completely redone at 105k kms. Nozzles, washers, o-rings, cleaning: cost me $560 but the result was a much smoother run, better fuel econ, etc.

But I'm not convinced this is your problem. Injectors, even fully carbed and buggered should mainly effect power, economy, and even smooth running. I'd be surprised if they affected the starting as much as your is... hmmmm... I'm still betting on air in there, but as I said, my opinion is worth about a liter of diesel, maybe less... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Fuel line replacement?// vehicle replacement? [Re: metalfaced] #974667 12/04/09 04:36 AM
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Jonno Offline
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are you sure its the fuel line? I had the fuel selenoid (behind the fuel distributor) go on me a few years back now. Just started being a bag to start and then finally wouldn't start at all. I'd check that you are actually getting fuel to your injectors. my two cents

Re: Fuel line replacement?// vehicle replacement? FIXED kinda... [Re: Jonno] #974668 12/04/09 11:53 PM
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metalfaced Offline OP
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best 2 cents i've ever been given - it was the 80A fuse for the glow plugs that blew - who knows how long ago... had a local mobile mechanic replace all the fuel lines in blowing snow, redo the starter lug connection, and bleed the air - no fire, and then today, he came back, checked the box attached to the positive on the main battery with 3 fuese in it, and the glow-plug fuse was gone. we connected a jumjper from the battery to the plugs, and she fired up instantly. HAH!!!!! new glow plugs won't glow with a blown fuse! no surprise there! anyway, now i have a manual switch he rigged up, says to go 5 seconds, then crank. he put an inline 25A fuse in there, with a couple spares. would like to get back to stock though... any ideas?


1953 Willys CJ3A awaiting Buick V6 Fireball and auto trans.
1987 LWB Samurai JX rustbucket
Re: Fuel line replacement?// vehicle replacement? FIXED kinda... [Re: metalfaced] #974669 12/05/09 08:42 AM
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300D50 Offline
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Going back to stock seems to be as easy as replacing the OEM glowplug fuse in this case, just get another 80 amp one and you should be good to go.


1989 Dodge Power Ram 50 w/ no engine <- rotten frame <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
1988 Power Ram 50 2.6 Long Bed
1990 Mitsubishi MightyMax V6, swapping to the Daimler-Benz OM617 3.0L I5 diesel







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