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quick question *** big problem now **** #985123 02/11/10 03:03 AM
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catman25 Offline OP
hey qiuck question , my gf was using my truck and she called me said it wouldnt start , You put key in and the lights would go off but no start . (this happened before and only thing i could find then was a ecm fuse in the yellow fuse holder under the hood , replaced that and it fired up ) so this time checked the fuse box under the hood and to my surprise the yellow fuse holder (im guessin ecm ) was not there but the cover was snapped shut , I found the fuse in the battery tray .So the big qquestion , will this truck start without ecm fuse ?( i was drunk when i thought i fixed it before i may have left it out) my gf didnot go under the hood so im suspecting foul play , can anyone chime in ?

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Re: quick question [Re: catman25] #985124 02/11/10 06:35 AM
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blitz Offline
step 1= save getting drunk for after fix celebration,or slowly work your way there, so by the time your sloshed,your done.
step 2= never let you girlfriend drive your car.

ok enough flamin.

my sport quit on highway on me.towed it home was about to crack open valve cover for timing belt replacement.then i thought "i better make sure" opened oil fill hole had wife turn key and the rockers and cam lobes were turning? so now im confused. i pull cover off fuse box lid by battery,notice a regular looking fuse kind of sticking up.so i push it down and here something begin to whine. (for once it wasnt the wife)that whining was my fuel pump.sucker started right up.
im at work cant check which one. i think it said main power or something.
you will not find a better source for sport info.give the other guys time to hit the page.

if you think foul play point a web cam at truck. i would have to cause bodily harm to someone for that one.just kidding.not. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> i would pity the fool <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/mrt.gif" alt="" />

id send my wife out there to whine at him,he'd probably kill hisself. ive just opted to going to the indoor shooting range twice a week with no hearing protection. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />

Re: quick question [Re: blitz] #985125 02/11/10 12:14 PM
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catman25 Offline OP
**** well it did it again , u turn key all light go out but it wont crank at all . i need to drive a hour away to try to get it to start , any suggesions ,

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Re: quick question [Re: catman25] #985126 02/11/10 01:10 PM
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catman25 Offline OP
well went out there (20 minute drive) and waiting for gf to come out of the house and guess what it started right up . What the first thing that comes to mind for these intermitent starting issues ? It doesnt even crank thats the wierd thing ,

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Re: quick question [Re: catman25] #985127 02/11/10 01:42 PM
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catman25 Offline OP
may have found issue , on a site they suggestion check ground on battery due to the fact the lights and radio and fan shut off when u try to start it ,the negative post was able to turn with a 1 nut try so i tighened that , but the negative cable that connect to the post was pretty loose it took a full 3 turns of my socket to tighten it , does this sound plausible ? gf still takin it to a family shop to get checked out what wanted ur take on it

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Re: quick question [Re: catman25] #985128 02/11/10 03:16 PM
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2002_Sporty Offline
I was in italy when I had the same damn problem you did.
If I would bounce around in the cab and/or push the truck around violently from the roof rack then the damn thing would start. What the???
I had my vehicle hauled for $150 from the side of the road to the nearest english speaking guys shop. The guy laughed his ass off when I described everything to him. The english speaking mechanic popped the hood, took a wrench out of his back pocket and proceeded to torque down the clamp on the negative terminal. Then the damn thing turned over. I was so embarrassed. The dude didn't charge me for the 10 second job. Thank god... I took the vehicle home and took the terminal cables off and scrubbed the crap out of them with a brush and torqued the fu--ers down tight. No issues after that.
Initially the cables were on tight, but not tight enough; I guess. Now I always clean and check the terminals first when I have electricity problems.

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Re: quick question [Re: 2002_Sporty] #985129 02/11/10 05:25 PM
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357transam Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
It definately is possible that the negative battery cable was the issue. when starting the car, a large load is put on the battery and cables, so if there is a loose connection, or corroded connection, it may intermittantly not start. To answer your original question though, no the vehicle will not start if the ECU has no power. The ecu controls fuel injection as well as spark, and timing. No fuel, no spark, no start.

Re: quick question [Re: 357transam] #985130 02/11/10 09:04 PM
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homerdog Offline
I put a new battery in my Sportage the other day because the one in there was on the way out and I didn't want to get stuck trying to push start it on the ice around here. Cleaned the cable terminals off with Hoppes No. 9 solvent and a paper towel, I was amazed at how shiny the terminals ended up after about 2 seconds of work.

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Re: quick question [Re: homerdog] #985131 02/12/10 12:30 AM
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catman25 Offline OP
well even after tighteneibn the cable my gf drove it to the shop guess what it didnt start at the shop . So they replaced the starter . hopefully all is good now . 200 installed smile

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Re: quick question [Re: catman25] #985132 02/12/10 01:16 AM
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jays2001 Offline
next time it does it put in neutal and then try it mine was the park switch did same thing and make sure pos and neg are clean and tight. also does it do this when it is cold or hot engine i mean as it starts every morning but after driving she dont restart. if so fuel pump may be a possible give alittle more info <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />

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