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SAS In the Rearview Mirror?
#993678
04/13/10 03:37 AM
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Joined: Aug 2000
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Roll Me Over
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This thread is directed at those of you who have completed a SAS on an Isuzu.
Please recap the following:
What vehicle type and year? Axle Used Leaf or Coil? If Leaf, Spring over or under? Locker? If so, which one? How did you handle the steering issues? In retrospect, what would you do differently?
If you have a link to a discussion of you build, please include it.
While I have a personal interest in the topic, I would like this thread to be a resource for anyone contemplating doing a SAS
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Re: SAS In the Rearview Mirror?
[Re: Jim_Paget]
#993679
04/13/10 02:14 PM
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Joined: Sep 2000
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I'll start... What vehicle type and year? 1995.5 Rodeo [/b]Axle Used[/b] front: v1 - waggy D44 converted to 8 lug. v2 - dodge D60 rear: v1 - cab n' chassis 14-bff. v2 - swap out to srw hubs Leaf or Coil? Leaf, started out with wagoneer 4-pack If Leaf, Spring over or under?spring over, shackle reversal. Locker? If so, which one?D44 was an OX then D60 a full spool. How did you handle the steering issues?D44 - histeer using SRE's. D60 - histeer w/ behind the knuckle tie rod and using ball joints. In retrospect, what would you do differently?dialing in the front spring rate as been difficult, battling firmness vs height, though flex never has been a problem. length and angularity for the front driveshaft has been a big concern with shackled reveresed SOA, probably my number 1 challenge in the project. some sort of histeer/crossover was a must. a few problems with undersized braking components after changing out the calipers on all four corners. If you have a link to a discussion of you build, please include it.I try to post pictures to all my projects at my website, www.zu4x.com, however, i've been having some difficulty mantaining the site lately and my gallery is currently down. -Rob
Robert Gorrell 1995.5 Isuzu Rodeo - SAS'd and SOA'd, sitting on 38x13 TSLs, spooled D60 front, 14bff rear locked by detriot, high steer w/ hydro, dual Isuzu tcases.
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Re: SAS In the Rearview Mirror?
[Re: Jim_Paget]
#993680
04/13/10 04:39 PM
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Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 234
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![[Linked Image]](http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p187/dvtrooper/hollister%2009/bday-molina051.jpg) Vehicle 88 trooper2 Axle Dana44 posi Leaf/sua rear spring over, ome springs, aussie locker steerin/ flat top knuckes what would i do different/ not much at this point i can drive it on the street and rides pretty good, tires make a big difference, i use to have dunlop mud rovers and now have km2 the km2 handles on the street very nice. Don
Last edited by dvtrooper; 05/07/10 04:29 PM.
sua dana 44 conversion 5.38 gears, 4.3tbi,700r,dana 300 w/tera low 4:1 gears
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Re: SAS In the Rearview Mirror?
[Re: Jim_Paget]
#993681
04/14/10 06:12 AM
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Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 945
Rock Warrior
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1990 Trooper Dana 44 3/4 ton narrowed and converted to 6 lug ARB 5.38s.pinion rotated up. Bought it from Travis after he went D60. Trooper stock rear leaves up front, shackle forward, Ford pickup shock towers, spring over axle. Timbren bumpstops. Stock steering box, crossover. The axle is about 5" forward of stock position. 2" spacers on the rear axle Isuzu 12 bolt to widen the track to match the front. I never made any effort to pursue extreme suspension travel. I have always been happy with the rear suspension flex. So using rear leaves up front figured I'd be happy, I was right  Biggest problem for me, was figuring out that I really needed a rear cv driveshaft. Shimmed the rear axle up & new cv driveshaft,no more highway vibes. To regain 4 hi use. I should get a cv front shaft also. No build thread .... just some pictures ![[Linked Image]](http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/43893/2004562960037295222S600x600Q85.jpg)
Curt B 89RS Calmini Header Delta Cam 33x10.5 BFG MTs & 90 Trooper 3.4 v6, SAS D44 ARB/Hobart 5.38s 35s my pictures
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Re: SAS In the Rearview Mirror?
[Re: maxwell417]
#993682
04/17/10 04:49 AM
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Re: SAS In the Rearview Mirror?
[Re: Jim_Paget]
#993683
05/03/10 06:26 AM
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Joined: Jul 2000
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Body Damage is Cool
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94 rodeo dana 44 from wag originally, now a dana 60 went with coils started with a lockrite, then arb, now open Handled great with the dana 44, could drive highway speeds, now i need to dial in the dana 60, been about a year that i have needed to do some adjusting, just not enough time In retrospect, what would you do differently? Do the dana 60 in the first place and a full float rear
If you have a link to a discussion of you build, please include it.
no, just pics at webshots
94 Rodeo sas'd front dana 44(coil sprung), dual transfer cases (isuzu), tera lows, custom bumpers, winch, arb lockers[url= [url=http://community.webshots.com/user/94rodeo] [url=http://community.webshots.com/user/94rodeo[/url] http://community.webshots.com/user/94rodeo[/url]
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Re: SAS In the Rearview Mirror?
[Re: 94rodeo]
#993684
11/26/10 05:43 AM
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Joined: Jan 2005
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1988 Trooper
79 Wagoneer D44, 5.38s open SUA front and rear Toyota FJ40 front springs on front Jeep shackles (aftermarket) Trooper rear bumpstops on front stock rear springs with Indy4x add a leaf and Calmini shackles Isuzu 12 botl rear, 5.38s, LSD Tera Lows custom steering (.25" wall, 1.5" DOM tubing for steering links modified pitman arm relocated oil filter 36" Swampers on 15x10 black rockcrawler rims Poly bushings throughout
Once I replaced all the bushings with poly, the thing drives really well!! I agree that tires make a difference, and will be changing mine soon.
Overall, i really enjoy the truck. I will say that a small part of me misses the IFS due to the fact that I liked to prove to the J$$ps that IFs could do it too. The new project will stay IFS. I can still do 70 on a level freeway, and running around town is no problem.
Last edited by Idaho_Trooper; 11/26/10 05:45 AM.
James "MOZES" Tester 1988 Trooper SAS
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Re: SAS In the Rearview Mirror?
[Re: Idaho_Trooper]
#993685
11/29/10 07:28 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 551
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What vehicle type and year? 1994 Rodeo
Axle Used Front: 79 Waggy D44 Rear: Stock D44
Leaf or Coil? Front springs from the same jeep with the shackles in the rear.
If Leaf, Spring over or under? Spring over
Locker? If so, which one? Lockrite with 5.38s
How did you handle the steering issues? Standard crossover. I found out later that the steering arm needed to be redrilled closer to the center of the knuckle to allow lock to lock steering due to stubby pitman arm.
In retrospect, what would you do differently? I would have drilled the arm before I put all the dents in the doors.
1997 Isuzu Rodeo - Auto - 31" ATs 1995 Honda Passport - 1 tons - 39" Boggers
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Re: SAS In the Rearview Mirror?
[Re: Jim_Paget]
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10/01/20 10:06 AM
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Need a Spot
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lupacexi
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