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Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 [Re: CJM] #996239 09/02/11 05:22 AM
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yikes .. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> ..
and it's not like you can eliminate the cats !!



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Nope, nor do I want to. When the system is working as designed, the engine makes PLENTY of power and runs VERY clean. '99 tech trumps '87 tech any day in terms of power, cleanliness and efficiency.

I've started pulling things apart. I think I may use this opportunity to rearrange the electrical bits while all the interference is out of the way. I've decided that I don't quite like the way my PCM is mounted and will try to explore another option.

Once I get the heads out, I'll post some pics of the damage.


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Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 [Re: Oyaji_Jon] #996240 09/24/11 04:35 PM
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Got set back a bit by an unrelated event...

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but I decided to get off my dead ass and get the heads off the Vortec. As mentioned before, I dropped compression in cylinder #4. Here's why...

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Nasty cylinder head...

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Really nasty intake manifold. I found that the metal Felpro gaskets were installed, so the intake manifold has been off before. I have no way of knowing if the heads were reconditioned or not.

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I can't understand why the front half of the intake is so caked with [censored]! I did notice that there were flakes caked in what I assume to be sticky oil from the K&N filter. I can't think of anything else that would be gummy like that. The flakes are from when I tried to clean my MAF sensor and it let go.

Front half

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Back half

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What an FJ60/Vortec engine bay looks like with the monster top end of the Vortec removed. That's a lot of stuff! I'm thinking of re-positioning my ECU using the bracket that Elbert posted a GM part number for.

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-Jon
KJ6GVM

As seen on Expedition with TX plates: VEGETARIAN - An old Indian word for poor hunter

Grampa's Trooper
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1987 FJ60
FINALLY some progress [Re: Oyaji_Jon] #996241 12/22/11 01:48 AM
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Well, I decided to spend a little cash and put in the Comp Cams Magnum roller rockers and some chromoly pushrods. I guess I figured "what the hell" since I was in as deep as I was anyway. They made hitting "zero lash" as easy as it could've been, I suppose. I also installed the ARP head studs with 12 point nuts. The head job wasn't much fun in a lifted FJ60. Here's where I stand.

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Here's what is holding me up:

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The old Felpro lower intake gasket is made of metal with substantial rubber to seal the passages. The new one is plastic with MUCH less rubber to effectively seal things up. Should I try and get the metal gasket as a standalone item? Also, should I put any sealant around the water passages? A couple of google searches say some different things, so I was hoping someone here might have some insight. Also, does anyone happen to have a manual that they can scan/take a picture of the torque sequence and values for the intake manifold and upper plenum? I can't find my printout that my GM guy in Monterey gave me before my last move.

Thanks for any help you all can provide. I'm really excited to get my truck back on the road!


73
-Jon
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As seen on Expedition with TX plates: VEGETARIAN - An old Indian word for poor hunter

Grampa's Trooper
1974 FJ40
1987 FJ60
Re: FINALLY some progress [Re: Oyaji_Jon] #996242 12/22/11 02:10 AM
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I think this is where I'd recruit some input from the ih8mud crowd; lotsa 2Fs over there, and they might have the manual you need, if you can't find it in the ncttora's library. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

I hear ya on trying to work on a lifted FJ-- at 5'5", that water pump I swapped out a couple years ago wasn't fun.


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Re: FINALLY some progress [Re: kewlynx] #996243 12/22/11 02:26 AM
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Hi Margie,

Thanks for the reply, but that's not a 2F. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I hope all is well with you in the Far North. Merry Christmas!

Jon


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-Jon
KJ6GVM

As seen on Expedition with TX plates: VEGETARIAN - An old Indian word for poor hunter

Grampa's Trooper
1974 FJ40
1987 FJ60
Re: FINALLY some progress [Re: Oyaji_Jon] #996244 12/22/11 03:32 AM
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K', so had to go back up in the thread for the swap! See what happens when you let these sink?? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

If you have some specific particulars about that 5.7, it would be a big help, as there are some variables in the torque that I've seen with a quick google.

And a Merry Christmas to you! Fixin' to go from +20 to -30 this weekend. Weirdly tropical.


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Re: FINALLY some progress [Re: kewlynx] #996245 12/22/11 06:48 AM
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Thanks Margie. It is a "R" Vin L31 5.7 Vortec that was found in A LOT of applications but most commonly known from the 98 and 99 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks, 'burbans and vans.

Here, the weather's no less strange. I encounter 25-35 degree temps on my 1 hour one-way commute every morning on the motorbike. I think we've all got it a little weird right now...


73
-Jon
KJ6GVM

As seen on Expedition with TX plates: VEGETARIAN - An old Indian word for poor hunter

Grampa's Trooper
1974 FJ40
1987 FJ60
Re: FINALLY some progress [Re: Oyaji_Jon] #996246 12/22/11 08:04 AM
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Don't know if this thread will help or not, but looks like Provost has been down that bunny trail with heads:

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/tech-general-engine/324845-vortec-head-bolts-torque.html


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Re: FINALLY some progress [Re: kewlynx] #996247 12/22/11 08:29 AM
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Thanks, but that's for head bolts. I went with good 'ole ARP head studs with an 80 ft/lb torque value. Mine are securely clamped...

I think I've got what I need. I'll post up some more info once I complete the job. Thanks again.

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73
-Jon
KJ6GVM

As seen on Expedition with TX plates: VEGETARIAN - An old Indian word for poor hunter

Grampa's Trooper
1974 FJ40
1987 FJ60
Re: FINALLY some progress [Re: Oyaji_Jon] #996248 12/22/11 09:07 AM
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If you can, try and look up one of those donor rigs on Autozone's website and see if you can find your torque patterns there, eh? Might be time for a Haynes <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" />


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