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My Homemade Rock Sliders (pictures included)

Posted By: TheBandit

My Homemade Rock Sliders (pictures included) - 04/03/05 05:41 AM

No time to talk about 'em right now, but I took a few pictures today of my progress. These are not as easy to make as I thought!

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Posted By: TheBandit

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/03/05 09:44 AM

Okay, here are the specs. I used 2x2x0.120 square tube for the two main bars and the others are 1.5x1.5x0.120 square tube. The frame plates are 2.5x2.5x3/16. The bars are 60" long with outriggers spaced 12.5" apart (5" from each end). Since my truck has no body lift, I used about a 11 degree drop on the frame outriggers.

Due to the location of the t-case crossmember I decided to angle the second outrigger perpendicular to the frame. The angled portion of the frame goes in about 1/4 inch for every inch of length, so the first and second outriggers have compound angles (11 degree drop for one axis and frame angle in the other axis). They were difficult to make; I fitted them with the rest of the bar mounted to the truck so I could tack them in for a good fit to the frame.

Tomorrow I have some finish welding to do and I will start on the passenger side. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: TheBigDog

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/03/05 11:34 AM

Mate, your neighbours must hate you! They're probably peering out thru the curtains to see what all the noise is about, and ZAP! they cop a welding flash to go with it!

Sliders look good,strong but light. The whole truck looks real neat, sure need to protect those sills!

Is welding to the chasis legal? Its a very grey area here, some say yes, some say no.
I made brackets to bolt to the rails, like a u bracket, with a bolt on top and a crush sleeve, they work well. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Brian894X4

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/03/05 11:42 AM

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Is welding to the chasis legal? Its a very grey area here, some say yes, some say no.
I made brackets to bolt to the rails, like a u bracket, with a bolt on top and a crush sleeve, they work well. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


Our laws here regarding vehicles mods vary widely by state. In some states, like mine (Oregon) there are no vehicle inspections, no matter what you do to the vehicle. You could practically rebuild the entire thing from the ground up, leaving only the original frame and vin plate on the truck and the only thing the state looks at is whether or not it passes emissions standards and that's only in some parts of our state.

Some states do have safety inspections, but I'll bet they aren't anywhere near as hardcore as you guys down there. I've read you guys have to basicly certify nearly any mod, engine swap, etc? Plus it costs money. That's gotta be tough.
Posted By: J94_4runner

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/03/05 04:16 PM

I was going to make a set myself like you, but ditched the idea b/c i've already made 3 or 4 bumpers for various trucks. that, and the price of steel has gone up, and they'd be square when I wanted round. so for the price Marlin Crawler had on theirs I just ordered them, cut the legs to what I wanted welded them up at the angles I thought looked good and called it a day. But I give you props for doing it yourself. I know what that's all about. the chop saw I have could tell some good stories if it could talk.
Posted By: TheBandit

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/03/05 10:27 PM

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Mate, your neighbours must hate you!


LOL. Fortunately my neighbors are very nice people. I work mostly during the day and I haven't been using the chopsaw after dark (just welding).

Here in California there are few laws against modifying your vehicle and there are no safety inspections.

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I give you props for doing it yourself. I know what that's all about. the chop saw I have could tell some good stories if it could talk.


Thanks man. I understand why even some of the hardcore guys still buy their stuff already made. This is not an easy task and it's much more difficult to make them from scratch than reproduce them. I'm sure the passenger side will go much quicker!

The price of steel is somewhat higher, but I don't think it's anything to be afraid of. I got 20 feet of the 2x2, 20 ft of the 1.5x1.5, and 10 feet of 4.5x3/16 flat strap for about $90. That plus a new blade for my chopsaw and a few days work adds up to a big savings over buying this outright. And I know I have exactly what I want because I designed and built them!

Don't get me wrong though; I think there are a lot of great sliders out there and I think it's obvious where I got my ideas (4crawler for one deserves credit!). I wouldn't hesitate to buy from these outstanding vendors if I had more money. I bet their quality is unbeatable by my home fabrication! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: shawn p

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/03/05 11:15 PM

nice looking. watch or roger brown <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: TheBandit

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/03/05 11:45 PM

Damn shawn I didn't know you got rid of your SR5! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> That was a damn good looking truck too. I wanna see a custom bumper for that Pathfinder soon! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: shawn p

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/04/05 12:04 AM

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Damn shawn I didn't know you got rid of your SR5! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> That was a damn good looking truck too. I wanna see a custom bumper for that Pathfinder soon! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


Hey,

Yeah i kinda regret sellin it <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> The pathfinder is sweet too though. Lots more power it feels like and just the same on gas.

/goes to look back at old pictures of it crying!
Posted By: TheBandit

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/05/05 03:38 AM

I'm getting close to finishing these. I fabbed up the passenger side on Saturday and finished the welding this afternoon. It's undergoing paint. Meanwhile the driver's side was painted Saturday and I mounted my super BLING LED lights to it in preperation for the install. I figured these would be tough to install on the truck, so I attached these insulated 1" electrical clamps to the top.

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And of course I had to add the mark of excellence (my last name). This will come in handy if I ever forget! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />

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All that's left is actually welding these to the frame. I plan on doing that Wednesday and I will post back with more pictures!
Posted By: Jiingwon

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/05/05 08:05 AM

Nice job! Those look really good. Interesting idea with those LED's too. How bright are they gonna be?
Posted By: TheBandit

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/05/05 05:53 PM

Take a look at these videos:

Toyota Bling LED Lights (Uninstalled)

Toyota Bling LED Lights (Temporarily installed)

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Posted By: shawn p

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/06/05 02:41 AM

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Take a look at these videos:

Toyota Bling LED Lights (Uninstalled)

Toyota Bling LED Lights (Temporarily installed)

LOL your crazy. Looks sweet. Ide like to see it going over rocks flashing like that. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

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Posted By: ChrisH

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/06/05 03:34 AM

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This is super!!
Posted By: Jiingwon

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/06/05 05:29 AM

LOL.... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Your 4Runner has turned into a mobile dance party! You know you have too much time on your hands when you make a music video for a set of lights...heheh

Just try and use them on the trail rather than in the street..... don't want you turning into a riceboy now <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: TheBandit

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/06/05 06:56 PM

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Yeah I know I am a geek, but these lights are just too damn cool. I'm no ricer though - this is my other ride:

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Posted By: TheBandit

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/07/05 02:56 AM

Finished up the driver's side today. On the frame and ready to rock!

I started by cleaning off the frame... this really wasn't cleaned off enough as I found out later welding...
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After a bit of welding...
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And of course I had to test them out <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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The resulting deflection (nearly none <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />)

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And finally a from far away: <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

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So now that that side is done with I have to weld the passenger side on and see how these do against boulders. I think if I was going to change anything I might think about putting the outside bars a little further out. I might be worried about jacking from the side with a high lift if the truck was at a strange angle (not on level ground). Also you can see I missed the idea of letting the slider deflect until it contacts the body seam. Frankly I'm not sure if that would be better or not. The five outriggers I have should distribute the load fairly well along the frame.

Speaking of the outriggers, they are welded along the two sides and the bottom. I just couldn't get the MIG in there to weld the top very well. Strength wise I don't think this is an issue since the top will be in compression when the truck lands on a rock. But I am concerned with water/rust. I will try using a stick welder to get things sealed up otherwise I will run some RTV along the top.

So whatdya think? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cyclops.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 4xJedi

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/07/05 03:34 AM

Looks good. As you found out you have to get the base metal real clean, like sander or grinder shiny clean, bare metal. The cleaner the metal, the better the weld. Keep up the good work.
Posted By: Jiingwon

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/07/05 08:02 AM

Looks awesome! Makes me wanna go out and weld some up right now.

I checked out that link too...... nice Nova <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: kewlynx

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/07/05 09:04 AM

Hah- I don't know about 'em flashing, but they'd definitely be sweet as rock lights in function.

Nice fab job. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> DANG-- I need to learn to weld. Gotta get 12vdc setup tho', my house wiring can't even handle a pancake compressor! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />

Say, someone was asking about a chopsaw blade down in the tools/fab section if you want to hook 'em up.
Posted By: mt_goat

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/07/05 03:00 PM

Very nice job, I got to get around to that one of these days. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> How much did they end up weighing?
Posted By: tucker80

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/07/05 03:12 PM

Those sliders look pretty sweet! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
So I guess a matching rear bumper may be in the near future <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: bkg

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/07/05 06:35 PM

Very nice job... Like the design.

One little critique - add some bracing to the top of the outriggers where they attach to the frame. I've seen two frames collapse because the top of the outrigger was near the middle of the frame... Bracing it should take care of that (potential) issue.
Posted By: 4xJedi

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/07/05 07:25 PM

That's what I did. I made my scab plates oversized, 4"x4" so pressure was hitting the top and bottom of the frame not the middle. Then added the tube gussets.
Bandit, even if you add seperate scabs above your existing and tie in some gussets, you'll double the strength of the bars. And like bkg said, you won't stress the frame.
Good call bkg, I missed it in the pics the first time
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It's dirty but you get the idea.
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Posted By: Dandeman

Re: Rock Sliders - 04/09/05 11:13 PM

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Take a look at these videos:

Toyota Bling LED Lights (Uninstalled)

Toyota Bling LED Lights (Temporarily installed)

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Nice sliders you made <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

But on the lights.... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

I did look at the above videos and have one major concern... They produce BLUE light..

Don't know about your state, but in mine we had a rash of "blue light" bandits attempting to pull over cars either for robbery, rape or worse... So laws were passed in this, and many other states that are brutal for anyone caught with ANY type of blue light either mounted on or carried inside a vehicle..

NC Statue: 20&#8209;130.1. excerpt...
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(c) It is unlawful for any person to possess a blue light or to install, activate, or operate a blue light in or on any vehicle in this State, except for a publicly owned vehicle used for law enforcement purposes or any other vehicle when used by law enforcement officers in the performance of their official duties. As used in this subsection, unless the context requires otherwise, "blue light" means an operable blue light which:

(1) Is not (i) being installed on, held in inventory for the purpose of being installed on, or held in inventory for the purpose of sale for installation on a vehicle on which it may be lawfully operated or (ii) installed on a vehicle which is used solely for the purpose of demonstrating the blue light for sale to law enforcement personnel;

(1a) Is designed for use by an emergency vehicle, or is similar in appearance to a blue light designed for use by an emergency vehicle; and

(2) Can be operated by use of the vehicle's battery, the vehicle's electrical system, or a dry cell battery.


I did a google search and found some cases where people had their hide nailed to the wall in court who were caught by the police with blue fender well lights.. so something to think about...
Posted By: TheBandit

Re: Rock Sliders - 07/19/05 09:35 AM

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found some cases where people had their hide nailed to the wall in court who were caught by the police with blue fender well lights.. so something to think about...


I have talked to local police about this to be clear. I have them double switched so they would be very difficult to accidentally turn on and I only use them offroad or in parking lots with the engine off. More than one police officer has confirmed these are okay to use in parking lots and private property as long as the vehicle is parked.

I rarely have the opportunity to use these, but they are certainly eye catching and make for good conversation! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
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