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My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread

Posted By: plh

My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/13/11 01:25 AM

New to our family is a 2005 Montero Limited. We have been looking for a nice clean used Montero Gen 3 for about 6 months and finally found an "acceptable" one owner (female) truck last week with 78K miles. I am planning on a simple expedition type build as this truck will also be my daily driver, retiring my Gen 1 to weekend duty and finally finishing all the upgrades planned for it.
So here goes for the Gen 3: Tires are first. I know that tire size of 265/65R/17 are stock. I am planning on 285/70R17 for the upgrade. I posted separately about possible maximum tire sizes for this rig as stock lift and only post reply was 265/75R/17. After visual investigation, these seem a bit small for this truck and want to fill the wheel wells with more rubber. The 285 tires measure a hair under 33" tall and certainly should fit. Hey if the 285 series rub a little OME makes 1 1/2" raised coils for this truck and all 4 can be to my door for under $400. Very soon - or simultaneously will be shocks. Who makes replacements? I found Bilsteins for $418 shipped what about KYBs unless I am looking in the wrong places not to be found... Again may need to turn to OME although they generally get a bad rap, similar price as the Bilsteins. After these improvement I'll focus on some interior bits like a GPS or Android tablet and some way to interface my iPod to the current sound system. (any ideas? geez a 6 +1 CD changer such obsolete tech already). Lastly - being the Limited has an "open" rear differential I'll look on adding either a Locker or Limited slip from an earlier year Gen 3 XLS. Hey - I have a Gen 2 - 9.5" Locker 3rd member sitting in my garage - can the center carrier guts be swapped into the Gen 3? I'll also assume the StarQuest 8" LSD will fit in the front. That is all for now except for the pic (day 1)...


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Posted By: belijose

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/13/11 02:47 AM

nice clean looking truck. Let us know how she does on the trip. I have been looking for one of those trucks to get as my DD.
Posted By: dougl3nc

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/13/11 02:57 AM

01-02 Limited had an LSD also. Gen 2 third member will not work nor will the 8" Starquest.

Good luck and I hope your pockets are deep. Oh, make sure the timing belt has been done! If not, you're 18K overdue.
Posted By: dadrab

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/13/11 05:52 PM

Good looking truck. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> I hope it suits you well.

I can't really help much on the lockers or LDSs for that thing as my experience is mostly with Gen I's. However, I would caution you not to be so quick to scrap the CD changer in lieu of an MP3 device and certainly not an iPod. Apple's compression algorithm is terrible and best and a joke in the extreme. MP3s compressed smaller than 320bps become so lossy that you're missing some of the parts that are most pleasing to the ears.

Spin those discs if you still have them. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: off-roader

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/13/11 06:07 PM

I agree, that is a great looking color on the Montero.

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...I would caution you not to be so quick to scrap the CD changer in lieu of an MP3 device and certainly not an iPod. Apple's compression algorithm is terrible and best and a joke in the extreme. MP3s compressed smaller than 320bps become so lossy that you're missing some of the parts that are most pleasing to the ears.


I certainly agree with Ed on principle and my $.02 would be...

Depending on your audio system and your own hearing/hearing loss (sorry, that usually does come with age) you have to check for yourself if you can really hear the difference. I know with my iPod/USB memory stick, Pioneer Premium deck, & Infinity Speakers I have to listen very, very closely to notice the difference between a CD and an MP3. Plus there's a far smaller difference when driving with typically louder MT tires.

That said, most systems that support an iPod will also support any USB music device and also off the shelf USB memory devices (4GB, 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, etc.). If your deck supports this too then just rip your CD's to MP3 with a high enough sampling rate and use USB memory instead of an ipod. This way, you don't risk destroying your ipod off road and if your rig is ever broken into, you only loose a cheap usb momory device versus an iPod.

This coming from the guy that's tried all the above. HTH!
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Posted By: dadrab

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/13/11 06:18 PM

Good advise, indeed.

I'll readily admit that I'm a snooty SOB when it comes to tunes. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> I hear everything and, except for the odd pops and crackles, would still rather listen to a record than a CD; and a CD over MP3s or an iPod (I might be the only person in the world that doesn't own one for personal use).

Perhaps it's a character flaw... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: off-roader

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/13/11 07:01 PM

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I'll readily admit that I'm a snooty SOB when it comes to tunes.

SOB=Audiophile=Nit Picky <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I know what you mean. I'm a recovering Audiophile myself. Started a business in my teens selling stereo's. Bought them via mail order and then sold & installed them for our clients.

My ultimate dream system in the early 80's was a Macintosh Vacuum tube Amp & Pre-Amp, Nakamichi 1000ZX tape deck, A component turntable with a Shure V15 Type IV cartridge and the Infinity 4 tower speaker system (don't recall the model any more). For dance music, I also wanted a pair of Klipsch LaScala's. Yes, this was before CD's came out. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> (I need an OLD Man emoticon <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />)

Edit: Oh and before I forget, TDK MA-XG metal tape cassettes with the metal alloy housing/casing.
Posted By: JohnnyBfromPeoria

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/13/11 07:11 PM

I have a pair of Magneplanar MG-1's, if you know what those are.

And I used to have a cassette deck with dbx noise reduction.

I wish I realized what I was doing years ago when I started downloading all my music from the internet. Now I'm stuck with a whole lot of music at 128k. Yuck.

John B.
Posted By: Canyonero

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/13/11 07:46 PM

Ah, my fellow audiophiles...

I know we are steering a bit off topic, but I too am very picky about mp3 conversion/bit rates and the like. In order to not have to carry all of my CDs around, I use a burning software called Exact Audio Copy. It is an open source and free software that uses a variable bit rate when converting waveform to mp3. Uses a higher bitrate when the music is more complex, and a lower bitrate when it is not needed. The mp3 file created is maybe 10%-20% larger than a standard mp3 file, but the sound is far superior, and is very difficult in most cases to distinguish from the CD wave file. My .02.

Back on topic, nice looking ride! Looking forward to see what you do to it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: dadrab

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/13/11 07:50 PM

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SOB=Audiophile=Nit Picky <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


I can't argue that, so I won't. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />



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My ultimate dream system in the early 80's was a Macintosh Vacuum tube Amp & Pre-Amp, Nakamichi 1000ZX tape deck, A component turntable with a Shure V15 Type IV cartridge and the Infinity 4 tower speaker system (don't recall the model any more). For dance music, I also wanted a pair of Klipsch LaScala's. Yes, this was before CD's came out. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> (I need an OLD Man emoticon <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />)

A lofty goal, to be certain...even by today's standards. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> I have to tell you a funny story and I hope the OP will forgive me for quasi-hijacking his thread... Several years ago, I had a turntable cartridge fail on me. Although Circuit City was on its last leg, I'd bought cartridges from them before and hopped in my truck to go do so again. Upon getting there, I talked to some snot-nosed kid who had no idea what I was asking for (i.e. turntable cartridge), so I asked to see a manager. Well, a slightly older snot-nosed kid showed up and told me that if the cartridge was worn out, so was the turntable and advised that I needed to buy a new one. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> The one good thing that came of it was that I abandoned the notion of fulfilling my quest at the "box" stores and called a guy who owns a high-end stereo shop. He introduced me to Grado cartridges.

My old records have never, ever sounded as good.

@JBP. Take heart, brother. I'll wager that much of what what you downloaded in the "early days" was stuff you'd wanted from days gone by. Am I right? The chances are good that most of that stuff didn't have production assets that were stellar anyway. Rendering them to MP3 might have taxed them a little, but not a lot. You might be better off than you think. Besides, you don't have to satisfy anyone but yourself. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: off-roader

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/13/11 07:55 PM

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I have a pair of Magneplanar MG-1's, if you know what those are.

And I used to have a cassette deck with dbx noise reduction.

I wish I realized what I was doing years ago when I started downloading all my music from the internet. Now I'm stuck with a whole lot of music at 128k. Yuck.

John B.


Yeah, my best friend has a dbx compression/expansion box.

Never heard of the Magneplanar's but i see they've been around for quite some time ('69?). Nice!

I still have (circa 1981) Yamaha M-80 amp, C-80 pre-amp, T-80 tuner, Nakamichi RX-202 tape deck, and AR-9 speakers sitting in the 'den' upstairs. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />

OK, sorry for the diversion from your thread.
Posted By: dadrab

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/13/11 08:17 PM

DBX box? Yeah, I've got one. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Cutting edge stuff in its day.

I salvaged a set of AR9s from a damn yard sale a couple of years ago. The rubber surrounds on the wolfers had vaporized and the cones were just hanging there. I found a kit on-line that comes with new surrounds, shims for the voice coil and appropriate adhesive for replacement. Plan on the operation taking all day (as in: Step 1 then wait for glue to dry; Step 2 then wait for glue to dry; etc.) Those old boys can suck up almost everything the old 200 watt Harmon-Kardon receiver they're hooked up to can pump out, but they sound soooooo good. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/drunk.gif" alt="" />

MMMMMMmmmmmmmm...Magneplanar's. Tasty. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Enough of this and, again, my apologies to plh.
Posted By: off-roader

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/13/11 09:10 PM

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Enough of this and, again, my apologies to plh.


Agreed, although I don't mind continuing our audio discussion if you'd like... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: off-roader

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/13/11 10:47 PM

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Tires are first. I know that tire size of 265/65R/17 are stock. I am planning on 285/70R17 for the upgrade. I posted separately about possible maximum tire sizes for this rig as stock lift and only post reply was 265/75R/17. After visual investigation, these seem a bit small for this truck and want to fill the wheel wells with more rubber. The 285 tires measure a hair under 33" tall and certainly should fit. Hey if the 285 series rub a little OME makes 1 1/2" raised coils for this truck and all 4 can be to my door for under $400.


There are quite a few Gen III owners whom I've read are using the ARB lift. Also check if Iron Man or Peders (sp?) also make Gen III springs.

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Very soon - or simultaneously will be shocks. Who makes replacements? I found Bilsteins for $418 shipped what about KYBs unless I am looking in the wrong places not to be found... Again may need to turn to OME although they generally get a bad rap, similar price as the Bilsteins.

Did you try contacting KYB directly to check?

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After these improvement I'll focus on some interior bits like a GPS or Android tablet and some way to interface my iPod to the current sound system. (any ideas? geez a 6 +1 CD changer such obsolete tech already).


Buy an audio deck that supports USB then rip cd's to MP3, load onto a USB memory device and plug it into your deck. This way you don't loose or damage an MP3 player from keeping it in your rig. Yup, been there, done that. My 18 mo. old ipod nano no longer holds a charge from being kept in my rig that whole time.

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Lastly - being the Limited has an "open" rear differential I'll look on adding either a Locker or Limited slip from an earlier year Gen 3 XLS. Hey - I have a Gen 2 - 9.5" Locker 3rd member sitting in my garage - can the center carrier guts be swapped into the Gen 3? I'll also assume the StarQuest 8" LSD will fit in the front. That is all for now except for the pic (day 1)...


Yes an earlier gen III diff will work. I doubt a gen II rear diff will work because I don't believe it will fit in the gen III carrier.

Alternatively, I believe ARB makes both front & rear lockers for the gen III.

HTH.
Posted By: Alex Kogan

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/14/11 11:51 PM

if it's your daily driver I'd suggest keep stock tires and get second set of 16"s from earlier Gen3 with tires of your choosing: 285/75 or 255/85. With stock tires you'll save enough in gas to pay for set of tires in year or two plus you won't put extra wear on set of expensive MT tires, as well as 16" tires are somewhat cheaper than 17". Gen 2 locker won't work in Gen 3. Gen 3 has 33 splines on rear CVs. You choice is either ARB if you got the money of like you said early Gen 3 Hybrid LSD.
Incidentally I've got set of 16" wheels from my defunct Gen 3 and that same LSD(no carrier) sitting in garage. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
nice rig.
Posted By: LRJ4x4

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/15/11 12:19 AM

Nice looking truck . The ARB locker you need for the rear is RD155 <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/15/11 12:41 AM

and ARB RD110 for the front - isn't this the same for the Gen 1? ie: StarQuest LSD???
Posted By: justice

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/15/11 03:04 AM

^^Yes its the same the starion unit should fit.
Posted By: Alex Kogan

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/15/11 08:00 PM

I wouldn't put LSD in the front of full time 4WD rig. Rear locker + traction control will be more than plenty. Save the money for winch.
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/16/11 12:44 AM

I agree. Selective ARB Locker in front or open. I didn't realize it is not possible to install Manual Locking Hubs on a Gen 3 until today. An LSD would not work very well in the front of this vehicle. :-(
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/18/11 04:44 PM

Back to tires. After doing a good inspection under this vehicle yesterday and checking clearances etc... I am going to stick with 265/70R/17 size tires. The rear suspension on this is built of beef, but what the heck did they do the the front suspension on these Gen 3s - what a disappointment. Also the minimal skid plates factory are a joke. Good thing this will be a DD with extremely light 4 wheel duty. Camping and hunting only please.

So for tires, we get snow. Recommendations on tires that are quite on the road, great in snow and light 4x4 duty?

I am leaning towards these: Cooper Discoverer STT Tek3 but a bit worried about on road noise.
Posted By: JohnnyBfromPeoria

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/18/11 05:16 PM

BFG A/T's.

John B.
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/18/11 05:22 PM

Like these?

BFGoodrich-Rugged Trail T/A

Wife informed me that tires should come from Costco...
Posted By: JohnnyBfromPeoria

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/18/11 05:25 PM

Take me literally. BFG A/T.

Like THESE

John B.
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/18/11 05:37 PM

OK , reviews of the BFG Rugged Trails su*k

Posted By: Grasscat

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/18/11 05:50 PM

I bought the High Country All Terrain ALL-SEASON, ALL-TERRAIN tires from Falken. I paid $138 each plus installation for them at America's Tire. So far I've been very happy with them. No noise and a smooth ride.

Falken tires.
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/18/11 06:20 PM

I like those Falkens. Need to find a source local or $775 delivered from Discount Tire.
Posted By: StockRaider

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/18/11 06:26 PM

If you can still find them, try to get the Peerless Widetrack Baja ATs. I have them currently on my Montero 3 years old, 40k miles alot of offroad time both mild and extreme and still look great and plow through the snow. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
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If you can't find them Yokohama makes a Geolander ATS which looks pretty much the same.
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Posted By: spencevans

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/18/11 07:28 PM

If your looking for something really different, I recommend the General Grabbers. I have them on my truck and I like them. They are a good tire for both on and off road. Unfortunately the Red lettering is only available on certain sizes.

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Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/18/11 11:33 PM

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I like those Falkens. Need to find a source local or $775 delivered from Discount Tire.


Falken P265/70R17 WILD PEAK AT installed at Sears $790 with tax. I am pretty sure these will be "the ones"
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/19/11 12:48 AM

Do any of you AZ guys know this place?

Vivid Racing in Gilbert?
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/falke...nskln2l6si5bbn7

I am wondering what to go for the P Metric series or the LT series.

Same tires $530.81 delivered from what I can see.
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/22/11 11:34 PM

After reading several great reviews I decided to go with the LT series. Falken Wild Peak LT265/70R17-121 . Should be delivered in about 1 week.
Posted By: lordtrunks

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/23/11 12:18 AM

sorry just checked your thread toasty and akclay live in gilbert but guess you already ordered so it doesn't matter much anymore. it is nice to see someone with a gen 3 thread going.
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/30/11 12:18 AM

The Falken WildPeaks arrived yesterday. Mounted, balanced and installed last night.

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Darned TPMS light on this morning. "Technician" had a very difficult time with the valve cores - could only get 1 of the 4 to unscrew (I hate road salt!) so he removed the nut and pressed the TPMS nipple into the tire to deflate. I am guessing this damaged a couple of them. Is it possible to turn-off the warning light permanently in the OBD2?
Posted By: 0778drz110

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/30/11 02:04 AM

Go back ASAP and make them fix it.


It looks great though! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: JohnnyBfromPeoria

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/30/11 03:45 AM

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Go back ASAP and make them fix it.


It looks great though! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


Plus 2 on both comments sbove. Do not be the "nice guy" with this shop. Tell them you expect this to be resolved.

And it does look sharp.

John B.
Posted By: dadrab

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 10/04/11 02:07 PM

Wicked looking. I like them.

<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 11/25/11 04:43 PM

I have put about 3000 miles on the Gen 3 since taking over ownership. I really like this truck. The Wildpeaks perform well but are really loud. When I selected these I read many on-line reviews and they all commented on how quite these tires are. I strongly disagree on the quite statements. Although unquantified I think they are as loud as my MTZs. Took the truck on a 1650 mile pheasant hunting trip to North Dakota in October. Averaged 18.5mpg. Not terrible. Very comfortable.
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 12/01/12 05:39 AM

We are up around 90K on the truck now and still like it very much. My wife however has pretty much take it over. So I bought myself a Gen 2 today.
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 03/15/13 03:36 PM

Took the Gen 3 to the dealer this past week for a PM timing belt, tensioner and water pump. About 97K on the clock. Cost $1260.
Posted By: lordtrunks

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 03/15/13 03:48 PM

my friend has his in getting a set of headers made up for it(3.8 liter) i'll get a couple pics of them when he gets it back. keep an eye on your exhaste manifolds his cracked and its only got 80k
Posted By: icysyrup

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 03/16/13 09:00 PM

Mine has cracked 3 times and I have welded three times and then they cracked just a month or so again....very very frustrating problem. Wish I could buy a set of headers for it...but have to get set custom made and dont know when I will get that done.
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 02/16/14 04:14 PM

Looking for new tires. 30K on the Wild Peaks - that enough riding with this noise...
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 02/19/14 02:17 AM

Anybody running BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO's on their Gen 3? I have these on my '93 and am impressed with the snow traction and quiet. But I know different chassis give different results. Would like to know about interior noise with these on a Gen 3.

I'm looking at LT235/80R17 Are these going to be too narrow - about 6.5" Currently running LT265/70R17 which are about 8"
Posted By: JohnnyBfromPeoria

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 02/19/14 05:32 AM

What's the wheel rim width?

6.5" on a tire is too narrow.

John B.
Posted By: Malykaii

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 02/19/14 03:20 PM

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Go back ASAP and make them fix it.


It looks great though! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


I know this is old... but just a heads up. Most shops, one I work at included, have signs up that they are not responsible for tpms sensors. Its not the techs fault that the sensors are designed poorly and seize up. I even had an argument with a customer trying to explain that I will end up breaking them cause they are seized. He kept insisting I won't. Handed him the tire valve driver and said "do it yourself". After he broke two I then proceeded with the tire work.

Your tech even made an effort trying to save them by dropping them in... I wouldnt have went that far... would have explained that they are siezed and I'm not responsible.

The average mom-pop shop tire guy makes min. wage yet is responsible for a 100$ sensor on a $15 job (since most people now bring their own tirerack.com tires). If anything ever breaks we the techs get docked from our pay (saw a coworker loose his weeks pay in 30 seconds). So if we manage to get lucky we dont get a tip, if we fail we loose that days pay, and if we refuse the job we get embarased an told were lazy or inferior mechanics in front of waiting customers.Yet tpms is one part the owners problem, dot bureaucracy, and auto maker carelessness... not some tire shop.
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 02/19/14 07:41 PM

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What's the wheel rim width?

6.5" on a tire is too narrow.

John B.


The stock wheels on this are 17 x 7.5"

For the BFG A/T KO's LT235/80R17 it says section width 9.3", tread width 7.5" (I had it wrong above) and recommended rim width 6" to 7.5" (31.8" height)

For the old LT265/70R17 WildPeaks it says section width 10.9", tread width 8.3" and recommended rim width 7" to 9" (31.7" height)
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 02/19/14 07:44 PM

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Go back ASAP and make them fix it.


It looks great though! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


I know this is old... but just a heads up. Most shops, one I work at included, have signs up that they are not responsible for tpms sensors. Its not the techs fault that the sensors are designed poorly and seize up. I even had an argument with a customer trying to explain that I will end up breaking them cause they are seized. He kept insisting I won't. Handed him the tire valve driver and said "do it yourself". After he broke two I then proceeded with the tire work.

Your tech even made an effort trying to save them by dropping them in... I wouldnt have went that far... would have explained that they are siezed and I'm not responsible.

The average mom-pop shop tire guy makes min. wage yet is responsible for a 100$ sensor on a $15 job (since most people now bring their own tirerack.com tires). If anything ever breaks we the techs get docked from our pay (saw a coworker loose his weeks pay in 30 seconds). So if we manage to get lucky we dont get a tip, if we fail we loose that days pay, and if we refuse the job we get embarased an told were lazy or inferior mechanics in front of waiting customers.Yet tpms is one part the owners problem, dot bureaucracy, and auto maker carelessness... not some tire shop.


Yep, I agree, there wasn't much the Tech could do. I've been living with the TPS light on since the WildPeaks were mounted. Another reason I'm thinking about new tires... I'll install 4 new TPS this time.
Posted By: JohnnyBfromPeoria

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 02/20/14 03:27 AM

Those size tires should work. Better highway mileage than big wide tires and they'll cut down through snow better.

Take it easy through the turns, though, Mr Andretti.

John B.
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 05/07/14 01:40 AM

Still kicking around the KO idea LT235/80R17 - why would have a statement "Not Rated For Severe Snow" for this size?

Or maybe I'll settle for Geolandar A/T-S. Saves about $150 across 4.
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/15/14 06:45 PM

a few PM items. Pulled off the Wild Peaks and put on my '92 in July. Very quiet on that truck - guess that is the difference with frame on construction. Replaced with Bridgestone Duelers that were used and on a set of FJ 17" steelies that I've been looking for to use on my '92. I replaced brake rotors and pads at 113k then drove to Maine and upstate New York for a little vacation. 3200 miles in 8 days. 18.2 mpg average. Had been throwing a code for about a year and needed emissions checked this month for state license so replaced 4 O2 sensors on Saturday - used Denso. Cleared codes and emissions passed. 117k miles.

Still searching for tires before the snow flies.
Posted By: PHIL_

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/16/14 05:46 AM

Were you getting evap-emissions-small leak? (Can't remember no., p0042 maybe?)
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 09/17/14 02:48 AM

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Were you getting evap-emissions-small leak? (Can't remember no., p0042 maybe?)


No. It was a CAT bank 2 code or similar, P0430 code. CATs usually don't go bad unless the vehicle is burning oil (no), really bad injectors and running very rich (fuel mileage has been stable) or using leaded gas (very doubtful). I checked the pipe temp in front of and after each CAT and noted it was always hotter on exit - so the CAT is working. So went after the O2s. Probably was only 1, but being I was laying under the truck why not replace all 4! Invaluable tool is a crows foot style O2 socket - used on 3 of them, and long 22mm combination wrench - used on the DS upper - bugger to get to. Probably took the most time was getting the connectors apart on the 2 sensor wires that are in the transmission tunnel sorta above the transmission not much room there for my hands.

I sprayed the sensors well with AeroKroil about an hour before hand.

Bought from RockAuto $165 shipped for all 4 including the crows foot.
Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 12/27/16 02:59 AM

poor updates here. Put 235/85R16 BFG A/T TA KOs on the truck 2 years back along with a set of '02 wheels. Didn't like them at all on this truck from day 1. This tire size is way to narrow for an '05. Drove them for about 2 years 29K miles - couldn't wait to replace. Switched over to 285/75R16 BFG A/T TA KO2 - what a great tire. Truck rides and handles excellent, glued to the road, quieter than the KOs and maybe even quieter than the old Bridgestone H/T touring tires. Also swapped on a set of 20th anniversary wheels. In the process also put on KYB Gas-A-Just shocks and OME medium springs on all 4 corners. 2x lower ball joints (MOOG), 2x Upper ball joints (MOOG), 2x outer tie rod ends (MOOG), rear control arm bushings (Mitsubishi) and 4 new alignment bolt sets - impossible to remove the old ones without destroying. 146K on the clock.

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Posted By: plh

Re: My new Montero Gen 3 Build Thread - 11/20/18 07:12 PM

Still own the truck, 172K miles. Aisin kit done this week for timing belt, water pump etc...
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