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1987 Raider Brakes

Posted By: Gnarlon

1987 Raider Brakes - 05/09/21 03:19 AM

I left the Raider out in the snow for maybe ten years, drove it two miles down to the mailbox now and then when the weather got bad, and I guess it rusted up.

So I got old and moved down to a town and bringing the Raider down the mountain was Toad's Wild Ride, not much braking power and what there was catching on either side so to drive where I had to go I had to force the steering wheel against whatever side had caught itself in the rust.

I finally broke into it today and found that those brakes don't even slide on pins, there's a couple of steel angle-irons to slide against, and they're all rusted up, lumps of rust. It looks like they were maybe chromed to start? Because there are crumpled wisps of what looks like chrome. All sorts of shims or corroded remainders of shims, top front back center sides, they're everywhere. The manual says slide out the angle-irons, pull them out with pliers, and rock the caliper back and forth and pull it out, and I sort of remember doing that the last time I changed out the pads, but today I had to hammer the wedges out and then hammer and pry the caliper for a while to get it out of the bracket. Half an hour's work in a whole day, it sucks being old.

So the question is, anyone know where I can get a caliper-and-bracket assembly, rebuilt? I went on Amazon and they had one from Cardone, for the driver's side, and I snapped it up, but I need one for the passenger side. Otherwise I'm going to have to try to recondition those sliding parts and hope for the best.

Also, where do you get a clip to hold a window crank? I want to sell this car, only with brakes and a window-crank that stays put, because I'd hate to sell to some kid who runs it of the edge of a cliff driving home, or who can't open the window easily and learn about the advantage of wind wings.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: 1987 Raider Brakes - 05/10/21 02:43 AM

Look at www.car-part.com for used calipers. These will almost have to be in better shape than the rusted calipers on the truck. You could also upgrade to larger calipers and rotors from a newer model Montero or Montero Sport.

Most auto parts stores should have a the spring clip for the window crank. That style was used for many models in the 90's.
Posted By: OldColt

Re: 1987 Raider Brakes - 05/10/21 07:10 PM

To add a bit, Mighty Max -D50 brakes are similar.
If this is just a yard truck you just need fresh stuff that works. The larger calipers mentioned which are 2 piston calipers are a great upgrade for road use.

I would look at https://www.rockauto.com/ to get parts rather than amazon.
Posted By: Gnarlon

Re: 1987 Raider Brakes - 05/11/21 04:29 PM

Thanks, MarkG and OldColt. Will look around for used parts for the passenger side since I already have the one rebuilt single-piston set coming.
Posted By: rxinhed

Re: 1987 Raider Brakes - 05/12/21 11:03 PM

How far from Trinity Center to Corning, CA? Come by and I'll supply your entire brake system supply needs.
Posted By: Gnarlon

Re: 1987 Raider Brakes - 05/14/21 06:32 PM

Thanks for the offer. My place was 65 miles from Redding, where I live now, but I found I can get get rebuilt bracketed calipers cheap and ordered the other one. If you're into gen1 Monteros or know anyone who is, this one is for sale. Stock except for a Clearwater head with no jet-valve passages, rebuilt motor maybe 20K miles ago. It's been a little sluggish, but judging from the way the wheels heated up driving half a mile to Autozone that was because of the way the front brakes rusted solid. It was my reliable 17 mpg snow car until I bought a Forester and some winter tires.
Posted By: B_Line

Re: 1987 Raider Brakes - 05/26/21 01:54 PM

Yea, find some used, or new donors.

While you are at it you might inspect your brake lines as well. Like most of our they are probably looking very sad and worn.
Posted By: rxinhed

Re: 1987 Raider Brakes - 05/27/21 04:26 AM

Nevermind. But, if you change your mind about keeping the Raider, I'm here until this weekend. After that time, the parts are gone and recycled.
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