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Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations.

Posted By: jaybur

Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/04/08 06:40 AM

Due to all the newcomers asking about lifting a sportage, I think its a good idea to have a sticky right up top to save some of us a little time.!

a few options:

2" lift: Great for getting bigger tires and light off road use. May consist of a taller springs, or coil spacers...." Alignment recommended for max tire life.

3" lift: Probably the most reasonable to get a nice look and gain some clearance for tires and a little more off road use. Will consist of a 2" spacer up front (lifts it about 3 1/4 inches) and using rear coil springs out of a jeep TJ, preferably a hard top model. these TJ springs will get you 3" in the rear. You also need new rear shocks now to accommodate more travel, for this you use rear shocks for a 1998 toyota rav4. Also needed are new bump stops, either from the TJ as well, or through energy suspension, Part number 9.9143 CLICK HERE to go to energy suspension site You will also need drop brackets for the front sway bar. Some ditch the sway bar, but for safe highway cruising, its recommended! You also need an alignment to prevent premature wear on your tires.
(SPACER style lifts are available through dennis_upyourkia

4" lift: Great for getting the MAX lift and most available clearance for the stock IFS front. (any higher and you'll need to go SAS = straight axle swap). Consists of replacing the front stock coil springs with new lift coils. This is a true 4" lift up front. You need different upper spring cups to accommodate the bigger springs (available in kit, or separate) You will need drop brackets for the sway bar as well). REAR you could run TJ springs, but remember the TJ springs are only a 3" lift. For the best results run the new lift coils which are about 4.5" of lift for the rear. As of now this is available as a kit through dave scott, consisting of 4 coil springs, 2 new upper strut mounts, 2 rear shocks, 2 new sway-bar drop legs, new adjustable rear panhard rod, Grade 8 hardware look here for the rocksport gear parts:

CLICK HERE FOR Daves rocksport gear page

You WILL need an alignment after install.

All versions of the lifts are subject to availability, since this is a custom lift, and not off the shelf stuff from a huge company, please be aware it could take awhile to have the parts made.

I Should also add that there are a few body lifts available as well. 1.4" - 3". (expect extra work on anything over 1.4" ) I don't have much info on these, so I will edit this when I get more info on it. (I do not have the body lift myself).

Since I hope to get this stickied, if anyone has anything to add, feel free to either PM me to edit it, OR reply below and I will try to get it edited asap.
Posted By: jaybur

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/04/08 06:52 AM

TIRES:

stock size is a 205 75 15.

the size most people end up going with is a 30x9.50x15.
I run that size and it feels like its a great size for this rig. You still have decent power and you gain an inch of clearance under the rear axle. "30x9.5 and larger will need a lift, and will also require the rear of the front wheel arch to be trimmed back and the adjacent seam on the firewall to be folded flat..( I run this size of tire on mine)

235 75 15 is also a good choice if you are running a 2" lift. its a very common tire size, so there are many options and styles available. Fits on standard rims, no lift required, although some minor trimming of the underside of the front bumper will be needed (~0.5" x 6" strip)..."

another option is a 31x10.50.15. You will sacrifice power, but gain a little ground clearance. would recommend the 4" lift for running these, or a smaller lift AND a body lift. But if you are running tires this big, why wouldn't you want a suspension lift?

the rim bolt pattern is 5x5.5 . After market rims for an f150 (1996 or older) will fit perfect. The F100/F150/Bronco rims need to be off a 4WD model, the center hole is not big enough on the 2WD models. Suzuki Sammy rims are not suitable as there is too little backspace... (I run a set of after market ford f150 wheels)

some run the 30x9.50 tires on stock rims, its not recommended as the tire will wear more in the center. The recommended width rim for this size tire is 6-7" to get the best life span, and the most tread on the ground where it belongs!

PLEASE feel free to add to this or PM me with anything that should be added.
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Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/06/08 06:29 AM

Rear Bump Stops from Energy Suspensions are 9.9143 found at Rear Bump Stops
These use a 3/8" allen bolt. Drill a hole into the frame thru the existing hole where the the old bump stop is removed, and then tap the hole and install the new bump stop. If it is too long, just cut it to the proper length.
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Posted By: DennisThompson

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/17/08 01:58 PM

Jaybur sugested that I post the prices on my upyourkia spacers.

Front and rear $170.00

Front only, $85.00

Rear only $85.00

Shipping $15.00

I still have some 3/4" aluminum that are $75.00, When thay are gone if I get some interest I might make some 1" aluminum level kits. The best way to get in touch with me is my email (upyourkia@yahoo.com)

Dennis
Posted By: jaybur

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/22/08 06:24 AM

FRONT TJ SPRINGS DO NOT WORK, ONLY THE REARS. as far as I know there is no drop in spring from another car that would be the right spring rate and height for us.
Posted By: tnyankee

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/02/08 05:40 AM

Does anyone know the spring rate on the front springs?


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Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/03/08 04:59 AM

According to my measurements, they are 12.5" long and 250 lbs/inch
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Posted By: DamKia

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/03/08 02:17 PM

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According to my measurements, they are 12.5" long and 250 lbs/inch
Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


That sounds about right. When I had the springs done by Ironman here in Oz, the rate we ended up with was about 360 lb/in and 9.1 turns (need about 0.5" extra wrap on the springs when they are wound otherwise they don't sit properly in the stock hardware). This removed the wallowing and crashing from the front end and enabled the front swaybar to be removed as well without any major compromises in the handling.
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/03/08 03:31 PM

Rears are 10" and about 100 pounds/inch. That's why the TJ rear springs work good because they are about 2.5 inches longer and the ones I have are 150 pounds/inch, so the ride is just a little firmer and it handles the added hunting gear. I'm looking for the highest rated ones cause it looks like I'll be towing a small trailer along with the hunting gear next season.

Jaybur, what are the stiffest ones out of and their rating? (TJ rears)

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Posted By: jaybur

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/03/08 03:59 PM

don't know the spring rate, but it is a the ones with a 106 number on the tag. Most common to find are the 104 and 105 though.
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/03/08 05:13 PM

Thanks,
I have the 104's
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Posted By: Chris_Eichman

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/03/08 08:40 PM

The stiffest TJ springs are the 106/6AA springs. I got a set off ebay for around $50 shipped. I haven't installed them yet (waiting for warmer weather.) I plan to take as many before and after pictures as I can to document the lift.

Note: I think the NEW Jeep springs will fit as well, and they have a 7AA spring which is even stiffer than the TJ springs.
Posted By: jaybur

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/03/08 08:58 PM

the problem might be that they get too stiff though. The stiffer the spring the higher the lift, and the less comfortable the ride will be.

keep that in mind
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/03/08 09:52 PM

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The stiffest TJ springs are the 106/6AA springs. I got a set off ebay for around $50 shipped.


Would you measure the spring rate and let me know what it is?

Just post it here.

Thanks,
Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Chris_Eichman

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/04/08 01:20 AM

It looks to be about 155-160 lbs/inch but I don't really have that accurate of measuring tools. I tried to do a google search to see if anyone had more accurated measured the spring rate, but to no avail. Hope that helps.
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/04/08 01:24 AM

how long are they?
Everet
Posted By: Chris_Eichman

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/04/08 01:32 AM

They are about 12" long. Anything else just let me know.
Posted By: Iron

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/04/08 02:28 AM

Jaybar will correct me if I'm wrong but 106aa is the stiffest spring, 105 the next and so on, there are 6 sizes in all.

There is a 130aa that is available on the Rubicon only (in Canada at least) this might be the elusive factory 2" lifted springs that have become a urban myth, there a set on ebay now, with the 130aa tags on them.


130aa ebay springs.


Nevermind I'm an idiot, those are front springs!!! the rears are 5aa must be a newer TJ
Posted By: jaybur

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/04/08 04:21 AM

actually those ebay springs are 105 REAR and the fronts are the 130's

but yes there are 6 different spring rates for the various TJ models 106aa being the highest
Posted By: tnyankee

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/06/08 10:08 PM

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It looks to be about 155-160 lbs/inch but I don't really have that accurate of measuring tools. I tried to do a google search to see if anyone had more accurated measured the spring rate, but to no avail. Hope that helps.
Try one of these:
http://www.engineersedge.com/spring_comp_calc.htm
http://guzzitech.com/springrate.html
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/coilspringrate.htm
http://www.efunda.com/designstandards/springs/calc_comp_k.cfm
http://www.ajdesigner.com/phpspringrate/spring_rate_equation.php
http://www.tftunedshox.com/springcalc.htm

They'll all give close to the same numbers if not exactly the same.
Posted By: Chris_Eichman

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/07/08 01:59 AM

I know how to calculate the spring rate thats physics. The question is what is the "real" spring rate not the "ideal" spring rate? Anyway, the easy option is to get a "standard weight" (in my case 100 lbs) and measure the distance the spring compresses. Voila! The spring rate! Anyway, the springs I got off ebay (6AA) had 3,000 miles on them, and the rate for them is 160lbs/in.
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/12/08 04:46 PM


Body Lifts here: <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />





web page
Posted By: mudz

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/15/08 03:56 AM

any body know how i should go about lifting a 2WD sporty, yes i said 2wd...

i just want to lift it about 2 inches, could i use spring spacers or is that only for 4wd.

let me know i need some serious advice

and please dont tell me to get a 4wd sporty, if that was possible at this moment in time than i would
Posted By: Chris_Eichman

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/15/08 04:55 AM

The spring spacers are all the time. Send an email to upyourkia@yahoo.com He can help you out.
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/30/08 08:16 AM

Would someone like to hazard a guess as to how a Kia Sportage with a 4" suspension lift with tyres 235 75 15 would look.
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/30/08 02:26 PM

Not as good as it would with 31 10.50's!!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/30/08 03:44 PM

the 31x10.5 would look great, but i'm on a budget. as long as the 235 75 15's dont look stupid with the 4" lift
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/30/08 05:34 PM

I know with 205's and my lift it looks pretty lame. Check <a href="www.craigslist.com" target="_blank">CRAIGSLIST</a> off and on and you may find a good deal. If you want new, Schawb has some pretty good deals. Look at 30 9.50's as an option.
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Posted By: wyodriver4

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/06/08 04:31 PM

i like the look of the 235/75r15 i run. dont think they look bad at all. they actually measure at 29.25 dia. and 8.9 wide, so its not a huge amount smaller than 30x9.5. may not look as mean a 31x10.5 but looks a thousand times better than stock.
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/12/08 05:20 PM

what has happened to dave's rocksport gear page?
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/12/08 05:28 PM

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TIRES:

235 75 15 is also a good choice if you are running a 2" lift. its a very common tire size, so there are many options and styles available. Fits on standard rims, no lift required, although some minor trimming of the underside of the front bumper will be needed (~0.5" x 6" strip)..."


where precisely do you need to trim and how major is it? will the trimming be noticed? I'm concered that I might stuff it up ('cause I dont know what to do)
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/13/08 06:08 AM

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what has happened to dave's rocksport gear page?





web page
Posted By: doughboywanttoliftmykia

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/16/08 03:52 AM

<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" /> IAM TRYING TO GET ON DAVES ROCKSPORT GEAR WEBSITE AND CANNOT SEEM TO HAVE ANY LUCK. WANT TO FIND MORE OUT ABOUT THE 4" LIFT FOR A 2000 KIA SPORTAGE, WHERE TO GET ONE AND HOW MUCH,AND ALSO WONDERING DOES ANY ONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE 2 1/2" EIBACH COILSPRING LIFT. WONDERING IF I WILL HAVE TO ANY TRIMMING TO RUN 30X9.5X15.
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/16/08 04:03 AM

try the "web page" in the post above
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Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/16/08 06:48 AM

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try the "web page" in the post above
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x2!
Posted By: doughboywanttoliftmykia

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/16/08 09:31 PM

<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" /> Dennis I was just wondering where you got the eibach 2 1/2 coil springs the 4x4 shop here said they could not find anyone who has them and I would like to find a set to start out with dont want to much of a lift,just enough 2 fit 30x9.5's on my sporty
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/16/08 10:43 PM

Just clicked on it and it is showing all the pics and descriptions. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Everet
Posted By: doughboywanttoliftmykia

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/16/08 10:59 PM

yes finaly saw all the pics
Posted By: DennisThompson

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/20/08 12:49 AM

I bought my Eibach's way back in about June of 2000. They don't make them any more but I can make you spacers for about a 2 1/2" lift, email me at (upyourkia@yahoo.com)

Dennis
Posted By: tonder

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/15/08 02:30 AM

Ok.. So you can lift the car even 4" but:

1. what about the rear axle, would it not be under the wrong angle?
2. front half shafts, the same, if I make 2"extension on the strut my half shafts will be under the angle that could damage them.
3. drive shafts, not to short?

please give me answeres. I have already ordered higher springs, made on request.. and I have extensions for the struts ready, waiting for the springs to come...

should I be worried? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: DennisThompson

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/15/08 04:07 AM

The rear axle will be off set a little, I have about 120,000 miles on my lift with no problems though. I still have the original C-V axles also. With 4 inches of lift I can't go down the freeway and 75 MPH with the hubs lock in, they start to vibrate about 45 or 50 but with all the wheelin Iv'e done they have held up well. If you look at your C-V axles stock the center line of the dif is lower than the center line of the hub. With a 2" lift the axles are at the same angle, just reversed. So in theory a 4" lift only increases the angle of a 2" lift. I have not had any problem with the rear drive shaft, with a 104" wheel base they are long enough.

Hope this helps, Dennis
Posted By: tonder

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/15/08 11:45 AM

Thanks Dennis, that helps a lot to free my mind from worries.. I only block the hubs when offroading... trial thing..

but what do you think of extending my front struts of 2" .. you know, if i lift the car a need to let it go lower when it wants to.. otherwise the wheels would hang even on driving of the kerb.

here is a short video about the kind of trial I do
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mwF6FzvTsrk
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/21/08 02:05 AM

OK....I'm sitting around Sunday feeling down because I just went to two friends funerals, one on Friday and one on Saturday.
Thought I would get off my butt and do something.
I know there are several questions on how much lift TJ rear springs will get you so I decided to measure my sportage with the 104's, then drop in the stock springs, and finally drop in my newly aquired 106's.
Sportage stock springs to TJ 104's gives you 3" of lift. Sportage stock springs to TJ 106's measured 4" of lift.
Now remember, your measurements may vary due to age of springs, full/empty tank of gas, crap in car behind seat, weight difference of spare tire, etc.
So if you want a good ride and a true 3" lift in the rear, go with TJ 104's. For 4" of lift you can buy Dave's Rocksport Gear's or TJ 106's. With Dave's your getting a brand new spring, with used TJ's you get USED for how many miles???... The ones I bought were supposed to have low miles...less than 5k...but who really knows.
Anyway, just what I finally came up with and please add any of your findings to this post.
I'll post how they drive after I get some miles on them.<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />
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Posted By: beebs

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/21/08 01:00 PM

Hey guys, I hope that this isn't a dumb question, but I wanted to clarify the 3" lift. For the front I would use the stock shocks and springs, plus the spacers. For the back it would be 104 TJ rear springs, and 1998 rav4 shocks. then I could use TJ stops all around? what are the drop brackets for the sway bar?

I have never really done any major mods to my vehicles, but I took my little sporty sand duning, and it was wicked fun, but I am in serious need of ground clearance.

Would you be willing to ship the spacers overseas?
Posted By: beebs

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/21/08 02:20 PM

I just realized the dates of the postings, Sorry to hear about your friends.
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/21/08 09:05 PM

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TIRES:

235 75 15 is also a good choice if you are running a 2" lift. its a very common tire size, so there are many options and styles available. Fits on standard rims, no lift required, although some minor trimming of the underside of the front bumper will be needed (~0.5" x 6" strip)..."

another option is a 31x10.50.15. You will sacrifice power, but gain a little ground clearance. would recommend the 4" lift for running these, or a smaller lift AND a body lift. But if you are running tires this big, why wouldn't you want a suspension lift?

should be added.


Sorry to bother and don't know if this is a dumb question.

I'm running the 235-75-R15 withoth lift on my 2001 tdi intercooler 2.0 without any issue.(Stock one)

now will do the 3" lift and want to run the 31x10.5 R15.

need to have the 4" list to run the 31's?

Also haw many power i'm loosing with this tires?
for 32's need to change the differentials?
reading on the forum, upgrated R&P is available on Korea and is a Pain to find them.
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Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/22/08 01:07 AM

You can use 30x9.5x15 tyres on stock rims. check out www.ozkia.com
be carefull when ordering the rav4 rear shocks. I recently did a 40mm suspension lift and was going to use the rav4 rear shocks but ended up using kyb stock standard. the eylet on the rav4 shocks was bigger than standard.
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/04/08 02:10 PM

OK guys and gals, put your thinking caps on. I did the ironman 40mm springs and replaced the shocks with KYB and put on 30x9.5x15. Looks great. Except that on the rear passenger side there is scuffing on the shock from the tyre when 4wding. The clearance on the drivers side is good. Is the axle out of alignment? What could it be? All solutions welcomed. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: logansportage

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/04/08 06:53 PM

It's due to the pan hard rod moving the axle. When you lift the Sportage the distance shortens due to the mount of the pan hard rod pulling the axle to the right.

As the axle articulates down you get rubbing on the left side. As it articulates up it moves back to center. The more lift you install the worse it gets.

Dave has an adjustable pan hard rod you can order, or you can build a bracket to relocate the pan hard rod down the same amount of lift you installed to relocate the axle back to center.

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Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/05/08 12:30 AM

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Except that on the rear passenger side there is scuffing on the shock from the tyre All solutions welcomed. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />



The offset of the rim should be more +!

Are you trying to use the stock rims?
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/05/08 12:34 AM

yes the tyres are on stock rims
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/05/08 12:48 AM

I would say that this is the primary concern--Hmmmmmm.
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/05/08 12:54 AM

i agree. so whats the fix?
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/05/08 12:56 AM

Get rims that have more offset (wider stance) and you should be fine! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

What the panhard bar has to do with anything---- <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Nukeiridium

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/05/08 12:07 PM

I have used stock rims with about 4 inches of lift in the rear and 31" tires, they didn't have enough backspacing so what I did was use Spidertrax wheel spacers to give them an extra 1" offset on each rim. It worked, no rubbing.
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/05/08 12:45 PM

i dont know much about wheel spacers. can you use only on one side? who is the stockist?
Posted By: logansportage

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/06/08 10:21 PM

Wheel spacers move the wheels out from their original mounting width by placing a piece of thick metal in between where the wheel mounts and the back side of the wheel. This creates a longer axle so there might not be the rubbing if enough space was added.

By either relocating the pan hard mount at the frame down or lengthening it out by replacing it with a longer piece you can re-center the axle to have it articulate either way without contact.

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Posted By: tonder

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/16/08 01:33 PM

Is the panhard rod only bar that should be modifyed?

did you test it in the trial wher the rear axle goes twisted like a twisted little monkey...???

is it gonna last? I wouldn't like it to brake in the middle of nowhere..
Posted By: DennisThompson

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/16/08 10:01 PM

I have over 100,000 miles on my lift with lots of twisting and rock crawling. I have not modified my panhard bar and I have never broke anything off raod. I'm not saying you can't brake, anything can brake but mine has held up unbelievably well.

Dennis
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/17/08 06:38 AM

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By either relocating the pan hard mount at the frame down or lengthening it out by replacing it with a longer piece you can re-center the axle to have it articulate either way without contact.

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Sorry Logan, I now see what you mean. If the axle is not straight than make sure it is straight! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

The rear left tire was rubbing on the shock/shock mount. Well, we really can't move the mount in this case.......and if his tire on the right side is just fine------------then----------we may have an offset axle!!!!!!!!!!!!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: DennisThompson

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/17/08 06:18 PM

The axle is offset a little with a lift but mine has not seemed to be a problem and the alignment shop didn't have any problems with the alignment. Also my first set of BFG KOs lasted over 75,000 miles. I will center mine some day but I have other projects first.

Dennis
Posted By: logansportage

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/18/08 04:29 PM

The rear axle can not be aligned by an alignment shop. If it gets bent, you just have to toss it, or spend a lot of time and money straightening it.

The alignment I'm referring to is the side to side alignment. If it's off center a bit there is no real reason to align it back, but as you get more and more lift it will pull to the right side and your track front to back will be off to the right. As the axle is articulated, it can rub in the shock mounts on the left side as the tire scrubs past it. Not a major deal and most people here with any form of a lift have not centered theirs.

Dave had to because of the amount of lift he is running and when you get lots of lift 4"+ you really should center it so you do not loose some flex due to axle bind from the suspension setup.

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Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/19/08 12:54 AM

OK. I did a 40mm lift. Does that mean I extend the panhard rod by 40mm?
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/19/08 01:19 AM

Today I checked the AXLE distance and measurement-----No evident deviation whatsoever!!!!!!!!!

...BTW I also have rims that are more (+) offset!

No Problems here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: logansportage

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/21/08 09:35 PM

Like I said most people here have not done the relocation of the pan hard rod.

With only 40 mm of lift, you really don't have to move this at all. Only if you are on the edge of 100mm+ would it really make that much of a difference.

I ran my 40 mm lift for 9 years before just recently moving to a 100mm+ lift and have just started experiencing axle rub during articulation. Iím now thinking of purchasing Daveís custom pan hard rod so I can relocate the axle without having to extend the mount.

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Posted By: sportagebandit

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/09/08 03:20 AM

whats up guys, long time no see... i put in the tj springs and the up your kia spacers for the eibach lift in the rear.the rear is now lifted about 6". axle shifted over some but no tire rubbing because i bought after market rims with less backspacing, 15 x 8 with 3.75" backspace. still working on dropping front diff to lift front more than eibach spring and up your kia spacer lift. you guys (dave , dennis, etc.) were right , when i tried a thicker spacer than what dennis and dave had told me the cv axle boots made contact with the strut.... thats why i am trying to drop the fron diff 1 to 2 inches. bought a welder and will probably ditch the IFS alltogether... we will see
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/29/08 03:49 AM

I have changed my tires to 30x9.5x15. What is the recommended pressure for this size?
Posted By: jaboo5322

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/29/08 04:03 AM

Not trying to be cocky or anything, but they don't say that on the tire. Or do you mean when wheeling. Or maybe it's rubbed off.
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/29/08 04:07 AM

they don't put it on the tire. the decal on the car is only for the standard tires. i was wondering what pressure for normal day to day and highway driving.
Posted By: jaboo5322

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/29/08 04:15 AM

Well that's messed up. I don't think i've ever seen that here. I run just a little bit bigger tire, so i wouldn't want to give you the wrong info. Good luck.
Posted By: DennisThompson

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/29/08 04:17 AM

When I had the 30x950s I ran about 30-32 PSI. I is a little high for as light as the Kia is and the bigger tires but that is were I got the best gas mileage.

Dennis
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/29/08 04:18 AM

brilliant!!!
thanks for that <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/02/09 12:17 PM

well, after putting on the 30x9.5x15 tires, I finally got to take it for a long run. The fuel consumption was an average of 10L/100Km's which I think is about 24mpg
Posted By: Moshe_Buhboot

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/01/09 07:43 PM

Folks,

It has been more than half a year in which I was contemplating on how to lift my KIA SPORTAGE 2001 - wagon (the extra long version)

I live in Israel - where other than dodging missiles from time to time <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> we have some strict restrictions and DO's and DONT's.
One of them is that I can't change tire size from 205x75x15 - original <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> without getting a written approval from KIA or its local reps that desired size is an authorized tire size - which is not possible (people tried)

Basically you can't change your car without going through rigid licensing process which in most cases is bound to fail and if you are involved in an accident and they find out you modified the car you could find yourself without insurance coverage. Not to mention that you can't in most cases pass the annual car test.

After much consultation I have decided to look at replacing the springs and maybe the shocks to gain some ground clearance (which is SOOOO needed...) and not use spacers (as they can easily be spotted)

Off the shelf lifting springs cost around $800 locally (Eibach, Lovelss, King) - so I have decided to search for alternatives. The alternatives which I have come up with are:

FRONT SUSPENSION:
Pair of king/eibach in the front (provide a 40mm raise). Not sure if I need/want to replace shocks.

REAR SUSPENSION:
SPRINGS:
1. TJ 104 rear springs (learned about it here..)
2. VOLVO 244 STATION rear springs + new spring cap
SOCKS:
1. KYB?
2. What else?

Would love to hear your thoughts - did someone heard about VOLVO 244 springs as replacement springs?

Moshe
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/02/09 11:29 PM

Shocks: Try 1999 Toyota RAV4 rears. Just need to put your old bushing in the bottom.
Everet
Posted By: logansportage

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/02/09 11:35 PM

I know there are people in Israel who have modified their Sportage, but I don't know if they did it legally or not.

Changing from a stock tire size of 205 to something larger like 215, 225, or even 235 shouldn't be illegal. That's like saying you can't change the street tires it was delivered with from the factory to an AT or mud type of tire.

If you are going to lift your Sportage, it will be even more of a modification than just changing the tires for a slightly larger size or more aggressive tread.

You can actually use RAV4 shocks in the back. People here are using them with the Jeep 104, 105, and 106 springs when lifting their Sportage. You can also use Monroe for both the front and back.

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Posted By: jaboo5322

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/03/09 02:25 AM

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Shocks: Try 1999 Toyota RAV4 rears. Just need to put your old bushing in the bottom.
Everet


Is that why I had to trim the pro comp shocks? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I should've checked that out. They probably would've lasted longer. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/03/09 10:46 AM

it would have been good if i had known about the eyelets. thinking they were the wrong ones, I sent them back and went with KYB standard size
Posted By: logansportage

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/03/09 05:02 PM

I went with Skyjacker shocks in the rear and they almost fit, but were a little tight. So I popped out the bushings and metal insert and trimmed the metal insert (1/8")to fit in the mount. Then I put them all back together and used a pry bar to widen the axle mount just enough to slip them back in. When I tightened things down I could just slip the Skyjacker shock out and the stock shock back in.

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Posted By: Moshe_Buhboot

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/05/09 06:15 PM

Hi Guys!

Thanks for the wealth of information.

I wish I could have explained the crooked logic behind prohibiting different tire sizes - but than again - I didn't set the rules <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> It basically boils down to the fact that the transportation ministry does not want to account for authorizing none original tire sizes and been exposed to insurance companies suing him for liability. Does it make sense? no, but then again, what can you do? Yes - there are people who modified their car - but they subject themselves to liability which I am not ready yet to take upon..

Why change suspension and not tires? because tire have tire sizes marked all over them while none-original springs is something that is hard to spot hence less to be an issue <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />

Can someone provide me with the year make of the TJ spring I need (don't know if there where different models) - From what I have learned - I need to go with the 104 spring. Does someone have the full SKU of the item?

For front I am thinking of taking firmer lift springs from loveless which have similar length but due to firmer spring provide a 1.5-2" better ground clearance. I guess that due to the same spring length I do not have to replace the front shocks, right?

Moshe
Posted By: logansportage

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/07/09 12:22 AM

It's best to get the 106 Jeep TJ rear springs. If I remember right they come off the 97 and newer TJs with the hard top.

You can go with the 105 or the 104 but they are just a little softer. The bigger the number the higher the spring rate.

Either way, if you can get any stock Jeep TJ rear coils, they will work.

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Posted By: 357transam

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/07/09 10:40 PM

Well, I just put 104s on the rear of my '98, and tried the Ironman "extended" shocks, but they werent any longer than the stock ones. I would definately say use the rav 4 shocks instead, as these don't allow for any real flex.
Posted By: londart

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/10/09 05:00 PM

just curious, how does a 2" spacer give you 3.25" lift...is this a hard upgrade,ive never done a lift but otherwise pretty mechanically inclined....any other mod recomendations...have a 95 dohc 4dr manual w/warn manual locks, elec fan w/bypass and came w/ some sort of turbo exhaust but still has the cat, 30-9.5 coopers w/stock rims for now...how much for the front spacers and what year tj for the rear upgrade...i work for a federated parts store so i get pretty good prices on new parts or know quite a few people that mess w/ jeeps can probably get some used stuff pretty decent priced
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/10/09 06:15 PM

Doesn't matter the year, what matters is the tag on the springs. 104AA's will give you 3" of lift. 106AA's will give you 4" of lift. If they don't have tags, then you will need to remove them and measure them for height (12") and spring rate (250 lbs/in for the 106AA's don't remember what the 104AA's are).
As far as spacers for the front go, I'll pm you with pricing.
I don't know where you came up with the number 2" = 3.5" of lift. That isn't the formula, however, think of a teeter totter. The closer you are to the fulcrum, the shorter the travel.
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Posted By: londart

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/11/09 06:22 AM

came up with the 2"=3.25 off of this site....jaybur...1st listing at top..2" spacer (provides about 3-1/4" lift)
Posted By: londart

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/12/09 06:46 AM

found some used rear coils online...no tags...does anybody know if they should be out of a 2.5l, 4.0l, or a rubicon for a 3" lift on the rear? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Delarey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/24/09 09:30 AM

I am interested in a BODY lift on my car, in other words, leave the suspension alone!
Has anybody done it and how does one go about it?
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/24/09 07:01 PM

Check out this link: BODY LIFT
This has a pretty good discussion on how they work.
If you need some I will work up a quote.
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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/21/09 06:08 AM

Hello To All!
Just joined after reading this whole post.
I am doing the 3" lift I have decided.
Only thing is I am not sure what to get for the front. The rear was explained in a few different replies, and only a couple about spacers for the front?...Is this correct?
Posted By: DennisThompson

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/21/09 01:19 PM

Everet Makes the front spacers, go to (upyourkia.com). Dave Scott does an all spring lift. The Pro's and con's of both.
Spacers pro's, inexpensive, strong, easy to install and quick transaction. Cons, limits front wheel travel. I have ran the spacers for over 100,000 miles with no problems at all.
Spring Pro's, better wheel travel, firmer ride. Con's, Price is much higher, a little more work to install and takes more tome to get them.

Hope this helps, Dennis
Posted By: ChrisB

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/21/09 07:20 PM

Will xj springs off a 96 grand cherokee fit?My brother just lifted his jeep and there laying around
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/22/09 03:21 AM

I picked up a set of tires, BFG Long Trail on a set of Rims...took off the truck actually, now that truck is on logs.
Anyhow, I am now looking for flares or something inexpensive to put on now.
Any help on finding some flare material??
Posted By: DennisThompson

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/22/09 07:18 PM

The XJ springs could be to stiff for the rear of a light weight Sportage. I bet the Grand is almost twice as heavy in the back. Even the TJ springs don't compress as much and the sportage as the do on a TJ.

Dennis
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/22/09 07:24 PM

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Will xj springs off a 96 grand cherokee fit?My brother just lifted his jeep and there laying around

Are the rears double pig tail? What is the unsprung height? What is the spring rate?
I can give you some info if you know these things.
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Posted By: ChrisB

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/23/09 04:46 AM

They are not double pig tail.Im sure they are to stiff anyways.scratch that idea. Still debating if i should get my warn manual's or lift first
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/23/09 06:28 PM

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I picked up a set of tires, BFG Long Trail on a set of Rims...took off the truck actually, now that truck is on logs.
Anyhow, I am now looking for flares or something inexpensive to put on now.
Any help on finding some flare material??


I believe that custom flares are no longer made for the Sportage.

A possible solution could be from JC Whitney .
I'm going to try theirs later this year. Will post it when the project is complete. I think Hydra found some that work.
If you find something, start a new post and include pictures.

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Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/24/09 12:22 AM

Being the frugal person that I am, I purchased a plastic soak well and cut it into strips then screwed it to the underside of the guard.
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/24/09 11:42 AM

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Quote
I picked up a set of tires, BFG Long Trail on a set of Rims...took off the truck actually, now that truck is on logs.
Anyhow, I am now looking for flares or something inexpensive to put on now.
Any help on finding some flare material??


I believe that custom flares are no longer made for the Sportage.

A possible solution could be from JC Whitney .
I'm going to try theirs later this year. Will post it when the project is complete. I think Hydra found some that work.
If you find something, start a new post and include pictures.

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Hi,

Flares for the Sporty a real hard thing to find. I went through this process last year. I managed to find one of the last sets from a company in America. They were actually produced in Australia but I do not know which company made these. Here is a couple of piccies of the flairs
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I tried to contact a company here in Aus who I thought may have made them http://www.bossproducts.net.au/about%20us.htm but I never recieved any replies to my emails. I was hoping that they may be able to make them or produce a wider set. This is the issue with the flairs they do not cover enough, especially the front ones for those who have gone the wide tyre route 31 x 10.5 and larger. I still have these flairs as I have not fitted them to my Sporty as yet. My direction has changed. I did try contacting all the manufactures I got hits on for Sporty Flairs including the one from England. Every one has stopped producing.

Perhaps my flairs could be used as a moulding to produce new ones, just a thought, if the market is there??

Cheers, Chris.
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/24/09 04:25 PM

CHECK THIS OUT:


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Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/25/09 02:38 AM

a bit pricey
try this

https://www.4x4store.com.au/Wheel-Arch-Flares-c-284.html
Posted By: k120189

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/31/09 06:14 PM

i would like to make a correction.
the steel wheels from the tracker have the same if not a little more backspacing. so they will work i just checked with a set i have.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/02/09 06:12 PM

Hey guys, thnx for the input on the flares. I think I am going to find something myself to put on. Lots of options.
Anyhow, I think I am gonna go with the UpYourKia Front Spacers, but I need to know what model of 1998 Rav4 do I get the shocks for that will fit my 2001 Kia Sportage. Also the Year and Model of TJ to get the springs from. I have been asked and don't feel to smart when asked, "What do you mean you don't know???". lol
Just wanna get the right parts the first time here is all.
Thanks Again guys.
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/03/09 11:19 AM

I wanted to get the rav4 shocks. got them home and discovered the bottom eyelet was the wrong size (too big i think). ended up going with kyb standard
Posted By: k120189

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/03/09 01:12 PM

everet ships eyelets in his spacer kit
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/29/09 03:29 AM

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It's due to the pan hard rod moving the axle. When you lift the Sportage the distance shortens due to the mount of the pan hard rod pulling the axle to the right.

As the axle articulates down you get rubbing on the left side. As it articulates up it moves back to center. The more lift you install the worse it gets.

Dave has an adjustable pan hard rod you can order, or you can build a bracket to relocate the pan hard rod down the same amount of lift you installed to relocate the axle back to center.

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What is this pan hard rod that I keep hearing about in the rear suspension, never heard that term before? Are you referring to the Transverse rod that goes side to side? I have to know so I can follow what everyone is talking about??

Hey Jaybur, you may want to edit the info regarding the 3" spacer lift? Correct me if i'm wrong but as i understand it a 2" spacer up front gets you 4" of lift and 1.5" spacer gets you 3". Also note that the rear tj106 spring is 4" & the tj104 is 3". This was a little confusing to me when i first started to gather info to do my lift! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/29/09 04:09 AM

you are right.
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Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/29/09 04:13 AM

Thank you, that was driving me nutz!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

3" UPYOURKIA - 05/07/09 01:34 AM

Here are 3 pics of my 2002 Sporty with the 3" UPYOURKIA installed. 235/75/15 tires on stock rims. Good example of tire and wheel well clearence also for visual reference.
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww39/2002Sporty/2002Sportage.jpg?t=1241656501
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww39/2002Sporty/2002Sportage6.jpg?t=1241656693
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww39/2002Sporty/2002Sportage9.jpg?t=1241656708
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/12/09 11:54 PM

Just wondering how you say that tj rear springs fit a kia sportage for a 3 inch lift in the rear. What year tj would work. Also does it mater size of engine.
Posted By: londart

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/13/09 06:09 AM

only 97 and newer use the coil springs and any of them will work....not sure which ones use which springs but they have tag #s on them...the ones that end in 104 give you a 3" lift and the 106 give you a 4" lift...there are also 105's and pretty sure they will give 3 1/2"...if you find some just ask for a tag #, pretty sure the rubicons use a 106 if you want the 4" just ask for the rubicon springs and verify tag #s...as far as the shocks go pretty sure its any rav 4 rear shock, i can look @ work 2morrow for the specs,its been awhile and i know that the first time i looked there was only 1 option but then they changed it depending on 4 door or conv., i think...if you go with kyb the gr2s show 2 option but if you step up to the gas-a-just series (kg part #s), which are a lil stiffer than oe rav4s they only have 1 option....this will give you the extra travel needed, but you will have to put your original sleeves in the lower mounts or make some since they are a 5/8 hole and ours are a lil under 1/2"....the springs are the important part as that is what gives the lift, the shocks just give the travel you need for the extra lift..hope this helps <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/13/09 07:23 PM

Thanks alot. I think i found some 97 tj hardtop rear springs. I have to call him tonight. Now in search for the front spacers. Im gonna call for the shocks after as well. As for the springs not sure yet what the number thats on it yet. Hope all works out as i am really excited at putting a little lift on my 01 kia...LOL
Posted By: londart

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/14/09 03:23 AM

contact everet for the spacers, he'll take care of you
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/14/09 04:10 AM

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contact everet for the spacers, he'll take care of you


Be sure to stay clear of Monroe Struts though!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/14/09 04:23 AM

Monroe struts are the same size as my KYB!

Don''t get it though? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

There is no longer strut made then the other (if purchased for the Kia sportage).....
That should be made clear first and formost.......but year dependant again.<depend on mods that u got>....I would guess that the strut mount or adapttor might be differrant..........Not sure yet......................................................................................................................................Just my 10 cents <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/14/09 04:30 AM

Just passing the word so others don't experience the same as me <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: londart

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/15/09 04:21 AM

according to the specs that kyb puts out on their struts and the ones that monroe puts out on their struts they are definately different sizes,just stating the facts about their relative specs, havent purchased both and compared them but these are their specs from the back of their books...kyb 13.23" extended, 8.5" compressed, part #341190 for 95-99 sportage....monroe 14.625" extended, 10" compressed, part #71561 for 95-99 sportage,maybe they are wrong about their own specs huh......
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/15/09 04:45 AM

Let's assume this info is correct, would this still effect the overall length of the strut assy with the spring secured to it?? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: londart

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/15/09 02:04 PM

i honestly have no clue on that one,sorry
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/15/09 08:13 PM

Well, I started to undo the first bolt holding the stabilizer bar, snapped it off....so I had to take the other off...snapped it as well.....tried to undo the drop link nut....no chance.....any ideas??? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Used PB Blaster on all I touched...started spraying last week too.
I don't want to take it to a shop...but I may have to...and that sucks in an immense way!!
Lift on hold, camping season is upon us now. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: k120189

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/17/09 04:50 PM

replace every and any bolt you can. trust me i got mine off stripped them all just used grade 8
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/18/09 01:53 AM

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according to the specs that kyb puts out on their struts and the ones that monroe puts out on their struts they are definately different sizes,just stating the facts about their relative specs, havent purchased both and compared them but these are their specs from the back of their books...kyb 13.23" extended, 8.5" compressed, part #341190 for 95-99 sportage....monroe 14.625" extended, 10" compressed, part #71561 for 95-99 sportage,maybe they are wrong about their own specs huh......


OK.............

Monroe Sensatracks (#'s 71562-71563) are 13.375 Ex & 8.5 Compress. <this is what HE'S GOT>!

KYB (#'s 341394-314395) are mine..... and the same specs!

Both are for the K.Sporty.

If ur struts are longer then maybe it is because of year dependant factors?

Don't know,
facts are facts Regarding my set and the guy from Seattle (can never recall his forum name) 69878966992 or whatever ----

My point made!

Mike

Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/18/09 03:06 AM

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[quote]
facts are facts Regarding my set and the guy from Seattle (can never recall his forum name) 69878966992 or whatever ----

My point made!

Mike

Here, let me make it easier for you older folks to remember me. It's 69442 like the 1969 Olds 442, got it? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Thanks Mike <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/18/09 04:50 AM







Try this for 3" Body lift! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

(or 1.3 inch if u wanna)




web page

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/18/09 07:15 PM

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Quote
[quote]
facts are facts Regarding my set and the guy from Seattle (can never recall his forum name) 69878966992 or whatever ----

My point made!

Mike

Here, let me make it easier for you old folks to remember me. It's 69442 like the 1969 Olds 442, got it? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Thanks Mike <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


First thing I thought of when I saw your name. Was actually going to ask if you had one.
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/18/09 11:35 PM

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[quote][quote]
facts are facts Regarding my set and the guy from Seattle (can never recall his forum name) 69878966992 or whatever ----

Here, let me make it easier for you old folks to remember me. It's 69442 like the 1969 Olds 442, got it? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


First thing I thought of when I saw your name. Was actually going to ask if you had one.


Here's a bit more insight on a handle I acquired by mistake. Back in 1982 I was a junior in High School with a cherry 1969 Olds 442 with 38,000 orig miles. It was Saturday night and I was in a hurry to go pick up my girlfriend but I wrapped my car around a telephone pole instead! Impact was around 70mph + at the drivers door which completely snapped the pole in two. The car buckled like a banana and I was thrown out of the passenger side door because I wasn't wearing a seatbelt. Get this, I had no injuries what so ever!! When the police, fire and aid people got there they were all looking for a body and didn't believe I was in the car specially not the driver! I was the only person in the car and was totally sober. Nobody else was injured by this so I was very lucky to say the least. State Farm Insurance wasn't too happy with the huge PUD bill to babysit the pole and replace it 2 days later but oh well that what we pay our premiums for..... right! So everyone knows me by the cherry ride I trashed back in the day without so much as a scratch. Sure wish I could go back and redo that day over!!

Each year when my parents receive their State Farm renewal notice it still states to this day that i am not a covered driver under their policy!!

If it's easier, you guys can just call me Rick, lucky bastard, dumb ass or whatever ....... you pick <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/19/09 02:32 AM

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Try this for 3" Body lift! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

(or 1.3 inch if u wanna)




web page


I'll probably do the 1.5" body lift but no higher after I figure out the susp lift issue. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/sleeping.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/19/09 03:16 AM

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Try this for 3" Body lift! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

(or 1.3 inch if u wanna)




web page


I'll probably do the 1.5" body lift but no higher after I figure out the susp lift issue. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/sleeping.gif" alt="" />


I have the 1.34 body lift and it is really great! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Did u ever do ur 4" lift yet?

If not, then what is your major issue ?

Maybe we can all help.(if it is ok with u and dennis and everet) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/19/09 03:25 PM

Lift still not in, been picken everyone's brain on their secrets of success before I either give it another go or throw in the towel.

May have to bag the 4" and go with the 3" and call it a day. I'm finding that I'm one of very few concerned about taking it back apart for servicing. Most have stated they have forced it together not considering how they would take it back apart if needed! Although I like to do all my own servicing I also like the option of using Schwab when I get busy or just lazy so it needs to be simple and safe as well.

I really want to say thanks to all the guys who have taken the time to respond to my many, many questions regarding this subject! You guys are truly awesome and i really appreciate every bit of info you have given me thus far <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Dryver

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/20/09 02:54 AM

Pic of my 01 Sporty with the lift and tires:

[Linked Image]

3" UpYourKia spacers ~ TJ 104's ~ 31x10.5x15 Hercules Terra Trac A/T's on Centerline rims ~ Warn manual lockers ~ Electric fan conversion.

No off-road pics yet because I still need to get a spare tire to match.

Colorado-bound this summer, Baby!
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/20/09 03:31 AM

Dude, nice rig <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> kinda wish I had a 2 door.
Posted By: Dryver

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/20/09 03:35 AM

Thanks! You're not seeing the other side, though. Rusted out door and dented fender. LOL
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/20/09 03:40 AM

Perfect, no worries <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> when your out wheelin!!
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/20/09 10:07 PM

Ya i wish i had the two door also....Going to pick up my springs for my lift tomorow....Then get shocks and spacers...Just can't wait...
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/21/09 02:19 AM

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Ya i wish i had the two door also....Going to pick up my springs for my lift tomorow....Then get shocks and spacers...Just can't wait...


What size lift you goin with and who are you gettin your spacers from?
Posted By: ChrisB

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/21/09 05:29 AM

Are you sure this is a 01? I have a 01 sporty 4dr and the tail lights o mine look dif then yours.Maybe they used dif lights on the 2dr/4dr




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Pic of my 01 Sporty with the lift and tires:

[Linked Image]

3" UpYourKia spacers ~ TJ 104's ~ 31x10.5x15 Hercules Terra Trac A/T's on Centerline rims ~ Warn manual lockers ~ Electric fan conversion.

No off-road pics yet because I still need to get a spare tire to match.

Colorado-bound this summer, Baby!
Posted By: Dryver

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/21/09 01:04 PM

[quote]Are you sure this is a 01? I have a 01 sporty 4dr and the tail lights o mine look dif then yours.Maybe they used dif lights on the 2dr/4dr


I'm sure. I've had it since it was new, having initially leased it in November of 2000. I think they did use different tail lights for the 2dr/4dr models. I actually liked the look of the 4dr tail lights better and considered switching them out. Maybe I need to look into that now that they should be easier to find in the yards...
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/22/09 03:16 AM

im going with the 3" lift just picked up the springs tonight. Buddy that i got the springs from showed me he had a set of 2" spacers, he is gonna let me know after the weekend if i can get them from him as his dad might need them. The springs are out of a 97 tj hardtop. Getting closer to get ready to install lol.
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/22/09 02:38 PM

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im going with the 3" lift just picked up the springs tonight. Buddy that i got the springs from showed me he had a set of 2" spacers, he is gonna let me know after the weekend if i can get them from him as his dad might need them. The springs are out of a 97 tj hardtop. Getting closer to get ready to install lol.


If what your saying is true, your possibly going to be nose high! The 2" spacer is a 4" lift and the 1.5" is a 3" lift!

2" spacer & tj106 spring = 4" of lift, 1.5" spacer & tj104 spring = 3" lift. Just to save you same headaches <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/23/09 02:51 AM

So the 1.5 spacers will give the 3" lift...Now for the rear springs i picked up there was no tags on them but they were out of a 97 tj hardtop 4 cyl...hope they are the 104s. I Thought the first thread here said the 2 inch spacers gave the three inch lift....
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/24/09 11:24 AM

Ya, I posted a while ago that info needed to be changed so nobody would get confused. Only the orig poster or Moderator can change it. Might want to check with Everet to see if he can help identify your springs. Or, since the rears are so easy you could just put them in and see how much lift you have and go from there.
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/25/09 01:03 AM

If you're interested in changing over your automatic hubs, have a look at this:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI...STRK:MESELX:IT&item=120425066327
Posted By: londart

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/26/09 07:30 AM

or i still have a set of warns to get rid of as well if interested
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/27/09 01:51 AM

The guy i got the springs from called me today said i can get his 2" spacers. So what people are saying this is gonna give me 4 inch lift. looks like im gonna have to modify them for the 3". I know i measured the rear tj springs and they are about 12" long. So im gonna go get the spacers friday. Then i guess ill go from there...
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/27/09 05:25 AM

I would confirm what springs you have before messing with the spacers. My tj106 springs are 12" tall as well and they go with the 2" spacer for the 4" lift. Not sure if the tj104 spring is shorter or just has less spring strength so you may have the right equipment already. The rear springs should take less than 20 min to put in so I would just throw them in real quick and see how much lift you have. That way you will know what you have and whether you need to locate new springs or get the 1.5" spacer instead.

If all else fails, get a hold of the guys at upyourkia.com, very helpful info regarding this stuff! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/27/09 07:53 AM

Just out of curiosity, I have done a 40mm suspension lift and I have some scuffing from the tires on one side, which is tolerable. Would putting in coil spacers increase the scuffing? Would you need to do something with the panhard rod?
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/27/09 02:38 PM

I know that as the transverse rod in the rear and yes, you should experience more rubbing with more lift if you don't center the rear axle. Dave Scott makes a adjust kit for this.
Posted By: DEFBOY35

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/28/09 03:06 AM

i would say redoing the panhard rod to recenter the axle would be a good idea with even just the 40mm lift.

or you could always buy the 4" lift (100 mm approx) off of me, and it will come with the adjustable panhard bar!!!
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/28/09 03:45 AM

Not right now thanks. I will keep it in mind though. Right now I have to get another front diff and the left and right drive shaft.
Posted By: DEFBOY35

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/29/09 02:26 AM

i also have a front dif available. i have a drivers side used cv, but the passenger side is toast. also warn auto hubs
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/29/09 06:31 AM

I live in a galaxy, far, far, away........from Canada <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: minydigger

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/31/09 01:07 AM

how much you want for the hubs
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/02/09 02:02 PM

What does any of this have to do with lifts and tire recommendations? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Please make a new post regarding hubs.
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/03/09 02:43 AM

k got my spacers today....they are 2" so think ill have to modify but gonna install rear springs first as there are no tags so just to see how much of lift it will make. First i have to know for the rav4 shocks does it matter the make(kyb) or monroe....
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/03/09 02:49 AM

I also removed 1 of my springs tonight in the rear. I compared it to the new tj springs and factory is appx. 9" and the tj are 12"....So would it depend on how stiff they are to see if its gonna be more than 3" lift.
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/03/09 03:15 AM

If your Kia rear springs measured 9", they have collapsed 1".
The TJ 104 and 106 springs are 12" tall. The difference is wire diameter.
Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/03/09 09:48 AM

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k got my spacers today....they are 2" so think ill have to modify but gonna install rear springs first as there are no tags so just to see how much of lift it will make. First i have to know for the rav4 shocks does it matter the make(kyb) or monroe....


Just to be safe I would go KYB, seems guys have had better luck with this brand of strut & shock after lifting.
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/12/09 11:58 PM

I run 235/75/15 tires on stock rims with the 3" UPYOURKIA.
I broke both rear monroe shocks the first week of adding my lift kit; during aggressive driving. 5MPH with full axle articulation. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />
I thought it was the fault of the shop for not installing the bump stops. So the shop replaced the shocks with monroes and installed the bump stops. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Once again; they broke that week under agressive driving. I didn't understand what was wrong. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> I got under the wheel well and jacked the axle up as far as she would go.
Finding: accessive contact between the tire and the shock. Before the lift kit the tire would tuck into the wheelwell just above the shock.
After the kit the wheel sat lower and rubbed the upper portion of the shock till it broke.
I have run the KYB brand now for three weeks with minor rubbing, but I'm more cautious and am having less fun.
Solution: I'm buying a set of wheels with 2.5" Backspace as opposed to the stock wheels with 5.5" Backspacing.
I don't know if the 3" space is going to be enough to give me full axle articulation without rubbing, but I need to try something. All advice on this issue would help, to include wheel backspacing requirements or transverse rod adjustment. Thanks.
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/13/09 04:23 AM

I was wondering why the shocks broke <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
The reason I liked the Gabriel that is sold by AutoZone is diameter and price. I also like the ride they give.
I have a 2000 now and was going to put on some 235's so I'll watch the backspacing.
Keep us informed on your wheeling fun and any other information you have.
Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: fokion

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/13/09 07:45 AM

they broke because they are short if are made foe sportage...
You need something like this
[Linked Image]

or longer shocks
Posted By: k120189

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/13/09 05:44 PM

DUDE! i've been trying to figure out how to extend my rear shocks with what i had at hand..the u shapped peice of steel never even came to mind! awsome time for some more wheel travel
Posted By: fokion

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/13/09 06:54 PM

Actually its not a U shape any more...

Look why... now its like the white one, has 2 nerves connecting the 2 "legs" of the U

[Linked Image]

the "U"shape has bended when in extreeeeeeem drop the spring left its place and fell out so when it articulated on the other side to get me off the hole I was in, the car "sat" on the shock and bended it... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/13/09 06:59 PM

Simple idea! And who said the Greeks went down hill after Plato!!!!

KEVIN: Make sure you tie in your springs and don't overstrech your e-brake cables with the extra travel!!

fokion: Just wish you had pictures of the 3:1 transfer case and gears and how the guy made them, or prints or something....want to build one....maybe even 4:1

Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: fokion

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/13/09 07:02 PM

I have asked but never got an anwer
bythe way not the same person that is making the lockers made them, it was sb else...
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/15/09 10:11 PM

I found a set of gabriel rear shocks that are 3 or 3 and a half inches longer than factory.... number on them is 758082. never installed them yet but will this week and it also has the 1/2 inch spacer already compared of the one recomended for the rav4 with 5/8.
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/15/09 10:42 PM

Odd, <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> No such Gabriel Part Number per their web site.... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/16/09 01:45 AM

sorry maybe its my mistake...i found another number on the shock as i have it in my hand..c00282b1353
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/19/09 08:53 PM

Everet: The 3"UPYOURKIA Rocks! Ground clearance much needed.
Fokion: Your design is tight! May have to ask for a set if the offset wheels don't work. I run RAV4 shocks now though.

I Ordered two 15X8 ProComp 98 series steel wheels w/2.5" Backspacing. (Live in Alaska so delivery is 1 month)

Question: Does anyone run this size on the rear. Any issues?
Question: If I run those on the rear and 3.75" Backspacing on the front will I have any issues? Besides front bumper clearance.
Your experience and theorys are much appreciated.
Posted By: Dryver

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/20/09 04:18 AM

Sporty,

I'm currently running the 3" UpyourKia Lift with no body lift. I have 31"x10.5"x15" tires on 15 x 8 rims with 3.75" backspacing on all four wheels.

I had to trim the front bumper, flatten the weld seams in the rear of the fender wells and trim the rear of the fender and bottom edge of the inner fender liner to get clearance. I had serious rubbing issues prior to that.

Runs fine now, even off roading. If you go with smaller tires, I don't believe you'll have the rubbing issue.
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/20/09 11:31 AM

Dryver: I'm thinking of staying with a smaller diameter for now. Like some 29/10.50-15LT, TSL/SX Super Swampers. I'm not ready for any major body modification yet. But it sounds like an option if it comes to it. Thanks.
Posted By: mattrodd

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/21/09 12:59 AM

Would some 215/75R15 or some 225/75R15 tires fit on a stock Sportage. I have a 1996 with stock alloy rims and 205/75R15 tires on it currently. I would like a lift and much larger tires but don't have the money right now.

Here are some pics:

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http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss268/mattrodd/100_3076.jpg

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http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss268/mattrodd/100_3074.jpg

Thanks
Matt
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/21/09 01:16 AM

I run 30 x 9.5 x 15's (240 x 80 x 15') with only a little scuffing on the left side rear shock. I think it's only when I go 4wdriving. Cant' be sure though, I haven't stuck my head out the window to have a look while the car is going. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/21/09 01:44 AM

i have 225/75/15 on mine right now with no rubbing at all and no lift but lift is being started on sun. or mon..
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/21/09 02:04 AM

mattrod, I ran my 235/75R/15 all last winter with no problems at all. Didn't have the rubbing issue till I lifted my Sporty.
I don't have a large budget. I bought the tires first. Then the warn manual hubs, then the 3"UPYOURKIA. I'm looking at more backspacing on the wheels then move into more aggressive treaded tires. The tires I run still have 95% tread so it'll be a while.
Get those bigger tires, fills the wheel well more and looks better too. Good Luck.
Posted By: londart

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/21/09 09:12 AM

i have been running 30x9.5s on my stock alloys for about a year with no lift and a sagging rear end and no rubbing issues on the back at all....the front bumper was trimmed and no rubbing issues there either.. however if fully cranking the wheel and backing up, my sidetread would rub a lil on the springs covering the front brake hoses but not bad enough to worry about and if i backed up slower or not as sharp it didnt rub at all...with my ford winter wheels and same size tire i did get rubbing on about 3/4 turn on front firewall seam and over any decent bumps on the rear pass side fender since that side sagged the worst and my shocks were shot...now with my tj 104s and new shocks i get a lil rub on the top of my rear drivers shock from the sidetread when i corner, im sure some ford wheels with more backspacing will fix that eventually, it doesnt rub too bad, just enough to take off the black paint and show the original white that they were...hope this all helps
Posted By: londart

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/21/09 09:31 AM

well my lift is finally installed and looks great,ill post some pics as soon as my wife gets back from portland with her camera.i went with the 4" upyourkia kit up front and rear tj 104s.drivers side was done in under 2hrs and that included stopping to eat, but the pass side took about 5 1/2 or 6 hrs, finally figured out that the problem was the driveaxle inner joint protrudes farther on the pass side than the drivers side and wont let the assembly go in as far to get it into the right position to bolt it up,finally got the axle pulled out after numerous attempts and then it went together like it should.it took alot of sweat and muscle but it will go in and the new clearence is awesome.thanks for everything everet
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Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/22/09 12:40 AM

quick question...Now i installed my tj springs in the rear. I measured in front of the rear wheel before and after installing the springs. I get three inches in front of the rear wheels but 4 inches right at the rear. Right at the Tow hooks So would this be a 3 or 4 inch lift in the rear.
Posted By: jaboo5322

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/22/09 03:45 AM

If you haven't done the front yet, your car rear is angled higher than the front, which will make the rear of the car measure more lift. Adding the front lift will level the car out and make it measure right.
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/22/09 03:59 AM

so it probably is a 3 inch lift then, i hope any how as i have two inch spacers for the front. I'll have to cut 1/2 inch off to get the 3 inch lift in the front.
Posted By: londart

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/22/09 05:31 AM

i put the 104 springs on which give a 3" lift from stock but the 2" spacers up front which give a 4" lift and im still sitting level, i belive with a 4" rear lift you would have a 1" rake but im ok with sittin level to get the added front clearance...id go with it how it is if i were you not cut 1/2" off...just my 2 cents
Posted By: k120189

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/22/09 08:04 AM

im in the same boat as lundart im level with 104 springs and 2 inch tall spacers and i left it
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/22/09 11:57 AM

right on i'll go with that i guess. U know this is the best site i ever saw and got so excellent info.
Posted By: mattrodd

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/24/09 07:35 AM

Sounds good. I haven't decided whether to get the 225 or 235 tires yet but either one will look better than stock. When I get them put on I'll post some pictures.

Thanks again
Posted By: fokion

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/24/09 02:16 PM

My personal opinion is that 235's are "too much" specialy if it serves also aw your dayly transport

Fuel consumption had impouved dramaticaly when I swiched from 235/75/15 to 215/75/15 ( difference in wheel perimeter haw been taken into account)

Probably my next tire would be something like 215r 15 or for extreme muddy situations 205r 16!!!
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/24/09 02:38 PM

Just got my lift completed...looks awsome minus need bigger tires now...lol. I would post a few pics but still can't figure out how to upload them...
Posted By: budicexxx

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Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/27/09 04:47 PM

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Posted By: k120189

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/27/09 09:42 PM

here u go
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if u look in the box that says share picture theres an image code that has [IMG][/IMG] around it copy that and replace "IMG" with "image" in both places
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/04/09 07:19 PM

still can't see where it says share picture. So tried several times also.
Posted By: londart

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/05/09 06:25 PM

move your cursor over the pic u want,under the pic there is 4 links....copy the 1 that says direct link...on this site in the reply field there is the section that says instant ubb code, click image..paste the direct link in the window that pops up then click ok....if doing multiple pics, press enter so that your new image starts on the next line and repeat the process again...give it a try it should work for you <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: budicexxx

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/07/09 11:57 PM

cool that works but i deleted the pic i tried as i am gonna upload a new one...thanks a million...This site rocks.Best forum around for great help
Posted By: DavidV

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/09/09 12:11 AM

OK. So where do I find spacers? I just want a 2 inch lift.

I can't find any lift kits, spacers, custom bumpers,etc, for the sportage. The guys who were making such things are out of business, or no longer make those parts.

I'm at a loss. Please assist.
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/10/09 05:56 AM

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OK. So where do I find spacers? I just want a 2 inch lift.

I can't find any lift kits, spacers, custom bumpers,etc, for the sportage. The guys who were making such things are out of business, or no longer make those parts.

I'm at a loss. Please assist.


Contact Everet at upyourkia.com and he'll hook you up!
Posted By: EricL

My sportage before and after lift. 30" tires - 08/18/09 03:36 PM

Here is my Sportage.
With 30" tires before lift it did rub a little. Not a lot, but I hated having to worry about the bumps.

Rims are American Racing 767 15x8 with 4" backspacing.

After the 3" lift, no more rubbing worries.
And it looks a hell of a lot better!

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Posted By: SKC

Re: My sportage before and after lift. 30" tires - 09/13/09 05:58 AM

Very nice! You should stand by it to give us an idea of how much height and clearance it has gained.
Posted By: SKC

Re: My sportage before and after lift. 30" tires - 09/22/09 01:58 AM

How much more travel would I have if I went with RSG's All-coil suspension, compared to UPYOURKIA spacers?
Posted By: ScottC

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/01/09 10:11 PM

Is UPYOURKIA.COM still around? I've sent 2 emails asking about pricing and how to order, never heard back. Are the upyourkia spacers and the kit from RSG our only options?
Posted By: SKC

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/01/09 10:36 PM

He might just be busy. The prices are 185 shipped, The kit includes: front strut spacers, sway bar extension couplings, rear bump stops and rear shock grommets. To order, you should either send payment through paypal or money order. Paypal account is [email]Everet@upyourkia.com.[/email]
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/02/09 12:28 AM

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Is UPYOURKIA.COM still around? I've sent 2 emails asking about pricing and how to order, never heard back. Are the upyourkia spacers and the kit from RSG our only options?


Sorry about that! Didn't see your email went into my spam folder. I have emailed you with info.

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Posted By: ScottC

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/03/09 04:07 AM

Thanks Everet!
Posted By: ScottC

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/05/09 03:44 AM

I'm trying to pick up a used set of rear TJ springs on fleabay, craigslist, etc. How can I tell which are the 104 and which are the 106? Are the 106 springs the ones from the rubicon only?
Posted By: jays2001

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/07/09 03:17 AM

what part of il are you from i have the 104s free if you want them
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Important Rim & Tire Question - 10/07/09 09:09 AM

I have (2) and just ordered (3) Rock Crawler Series 98 Black Monster Mod Wheels from ProComp
Part Number: PCW98-5885R2.5
15x8, 5 on 5.5 Bolt Pattern
Backspace = 2.5 in.
Max Load = 1600 lbs
Finish = Black Powder Coat
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I haven't ordered tires yet but trying to stay as close to 29" in overall Diameter, But under 30". My sporty also has 3" UPYOURKIA lift and the factory wheelwell triming and stupid mud guards. I also understand that I will have to trim the front bumper alot.

Question: Do you think I'll be able to turn these wheels in the front wheelwell?

I'm starting to get really worried that I have too little backspace. Especially after viewing that pretty blue truck in the post above. Damn I like the way that truck sits.
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Important Rim & Tire Question - 10/07/09 10:06 PM

With backspace of 2.5 and a nice set of 235/75/15 should set you up near 28 VS . with a 15x6 ........ And with ur UPURKIA lift you should do really well!

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Posted By: sportagebandit

Re: Important Rim & Tire Question - 10/08/09 07:29 PM

i have those same rims but cragars from jegs, much cheaper. 15x8 5 on 5.5 but with a 4 inch backspace. check out pics on my cardomain link.
Posted By: ScottC

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/09/09 03:07 AM

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what part of il are you from i have the 104s free if you want them


Grayslake. It's Northern IL, north of Chicago.
Posted By: ScottC

Re: Important Rim & Tire Question - 10/09/09 03:23 AM

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I have (2) and just ordered (3) Rock Crawler Series 98 Black Monster Mod Wheels from ProComp
Part Number: PCW98-5885R2.5
15x8, 5 on 5.5 Bolt Pattern
Backspace = 2.5 in.
Max Load = 1600 lbs
Finish = Black Powder Coat
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I haven't ordered tires yet but trying to stay as close to 29" in overall Diameter, But under 30". My sporty also has 3" UPYOURKIA lift and the factory wheelwell triming and stupid mud guards. I also understand that I will have to trim the front bumper alot.

Question: Do you think I'll be able to turn these wheels in the front wheelwell?

I'm starting to get really worried that I have too little backspace. Especially after viewing that pretty blue truck in the post above. Damn I like the way that truck sits.


onlinetires.com seems to have awesome prices on tires, that and tirerack.com. Good luck. I also have the stupid factory mudguards/body kit on mine, can't decide to go 30" or 31".
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Re: Important Rim & Tire Question - 10/09/09 08:37 AM

Bandit, That sporty is a muddin beast. love the Swampers too. I like the style of the rims I chose, I went with 4wheelparts.com as they charged me less for shipping to Fairbanks Alaska.

Scottc, I hate that stupid body kit. The wife dosen't want it removed? I don't understand the logic, so I have to trim carefully in attempt to remain stock looking she says.
with the new rims she will be in for a suprise. HaHaHa...
Posted By: ScottC

Re: Important Rim & Tire Question - 10/09/09 07:15 PM

Yeah, The Kia is my wife's car too. We just had a baby, so she now gets to drive my Volvo, and I inherited the Sporty. I thought about removing the body kit, but figured I would end up with a bunch of holes to patch.
Posted By: jays2001

Re: Important Rim & Tire Question - 10/09/09 09:25 PM

yeah thats aways up there in illinois we are going to be up that way this spring going to the badlands offroad park in indiana, we are out side Quincy,il.about 5hours from your area or more.
Posted By: DennisThompson

Re: Important Rim & Tire Question - 10/11/09 05:45 PM

If you go with 30x9.50x15 you will notice that they are only about 29 inches tall and will your lift you will have plenty of room. What ever you get make sure they have a LT rating, Off road is no place for a P rated tire.

Dennis
Posted By: jays2001

Re: Important Rim & Tire Question - 10/11/09 06:51 PM

treadwright are great tires for the money,used this year with no issues and only paid $450 for all 4 and they look like bfg's mtrs and work realy well in all ares of off road and highway.
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Re: Important Rim & Tire Question - 10/12/09 08:26 AM

I want something that will fit an 8" Wheel and have good Snow/Ice/Mud rating. These are the tires I was looking at recently:

Tread Write Mud - 29x30x8 With Kedge Grip
Overall Diameter: 29 & 3/8"
Tread Depth: 17/32nds
Section Width: 10.50"
Approved Rim: 7-9"

Nokian Vatiiva M/T - LT30X9.5R15C
Overall Diameter: 29.3"
Tread Depth: 19.5/32nds
Section Width: 10.10"
Approved Rim: 6.5-8.5"

Interco TSL Radial - 30x10.50R15LT
Overall Diameter: 29.7"
Tread Depth: 21/32nds
Section Width: 10.20"
Approved Rim: 8"

YOKOHAMA Geolandar I/T G072 - P235/75R15 105Q
Overall Diameter: 28.9"
Tread Depth: 13/32nds
Section Width: 9.5"
Approved Rim: 6-8"

I have to wait for tax returns before I can even think about it, so says the wife. Atleast she can't control my thoughts...



Posted By: jays2001

Re: Important Rim & Tire Question - 10/12/09 11:42 PM

the treadwrights are great im running 31s on 8 in wide rims.
Posted By: ScottC

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/14/09 07:41 AM

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i put the 104 springs on which give a 3" lift from stock but the 2" spacers up front which give a 4" lift and im still sitting level, i belive with a 4" rear lift you would have a 1" rake but im ok with sittin level to get the added front clearance...id go with it how it is if i were you not cut 1/2" off...just my 2 cents


How's it working out for you guys with the 2" spacers in front and the 104 rear springs? Have any pics?
Posted By: londart

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/14/09 03:03 PM

heres mine after my lift, just wish i had some before pictures cause it looks huge now...it has 2" spacers up front(4" lift) and tj 104s(3" lift) in rear, 30x9.5 tires on factory rims, and trimmed front bumper...the only issue was a lil rubbing from my left rear tires inside tread on my shock if i cornered too hard or went over a good bump...this issue went away when i put my winter wheels on which are american racing 15x8 snow rims for a ford so they have back spacing,ill post some new pics in a few days...if you go back in august theres another topic,"post pictures of your kia"....look here http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showf...&an=0&page=5#Post1164241
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Posted By: ScottC

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/16/09 12:15 AM

Thanks Lonnie. I was thinking of putting 31's on a setup like this, not sure though, I don't mind trimming things a little, don't want to go hog wild though.
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/16/09 02:29 AM

Hey, did your kid throw down the cig just before you took the pic? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: ScottC

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/20/09 07:19 PM

Got my rear springs the other day. No tags, but they're off a 2000 sport with hardtop, guys on the jeep forum say they are prob 105AA. I'm going to go with the 2" upyourkia spacers in the front. The guy who gave me the springs threw in the isolators for the springs also. Do we even use these?
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/21/09 04:27 PM

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Got my rear springs the other day. No tags, but they're off a 2000 sport with hardtop, guys on the jeep forum say they are prob 105AA. I'm going to go with the 2" upyourkia spacers in the front. The guy who gave me the springs threw in the isolators for the springs also. Do we even use these?


Just sent you a PM
Posted By: minydigger

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/30/09 03:43 AM

2" spacer with 105s 235 goodyears on 6" ford rims
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Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/30/09 05:59 PM

Got any better pics that aren't cut off??
Posted By: minydigger

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/31/09 01:54 PM

Yeah that was a crappy cell pic I need to grab some better ones.
Posted By: minydigger

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/02/09 04:26 PM

fixed
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/03/09 10:37 AM

Looks nice with the lift and the bigger tires.
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/08/09 11:02 PM

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Yeah that was a crappy cell pic I need to grab some better ones.


Much better <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/08/09 11:10 PM

With the lift, did you rub anywhere or did everything clear?
Thanks,
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Posted By: minydigger

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/09/09 01:35 AM

No rubbing at all and the back could actually use to come down a hair.
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/09/09 02:05 AM

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No rubbing at all and the back could actually use to come down a hair.


Down <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> looks good to me <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> I'm farging jealous <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/10/09 09:48 AM

Put some 4x4, camping, winter gear, subwoofer box or a couple of adults in the rear seat. That'll bring her down and add to the traction also.
Everet's kit did wonders for my Sporty too. Have fun...
Posted By: minydigger

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/11/09 04:21 AM

Yeah will probably just leave it. Its not an Everet production brewed that up myself.
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/30/09 03:09 AM

This is my lifted kia.
Rear TJ springs & IRONMAN KIA001B front
Also have 3 inches body lift.
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Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/30/09 03:14 AM

have to add that now i'm running 32x11.5r15 maxxis mudders.
If you look carefully I made some cuts to have thos big meats on my sporty, the wheels are from Daihatsu Rocky.
Regarding loosing power I dont mind it because my diesel engige died and engine swap has been performed to have a 2.8 V6 GM engine.
Posted By: ScottC

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/02/09 04:58 AM

What kind of brush guard is that?
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/02/09 05:43 AM

Regarding loosing power I dont mind it because my diesel engige died and engine swap has been performed to have a 2.8 V6 GM engine. [/quote]
Do you have pics of the V6 engine swap and what mods did you have to do to get it to work?
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/02/09 09:11 AM

I see that you ousted the rear fender cladding on the drivers side but not on the passenger side?
Was this 4x4 battle wounds or a clearance issue on one side?
Bye the way, what size wheels are you running under your Sporty, Brand, diameter, width, Backspace? This is always one of my favorite questions.
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/03/09 01:33 AM

I think that my Chevy Blazer (85)s-10 had the 2.8 v-6.....Lots of power----Potential for true dual exhaust here <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

How much weight are we adding with the v-6 setup??

Nice job on the body lift I see...Where did you get it from/how was it done??

Good Job and keep on smilin' <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/04/09 02:51 AM

well replying all questions, yest it's the same s10 engine, mine came from a cherokee, some GM cars shared same engine, mine it's a carburated one but think that injected are better.

Rear fare felt down I'm trying to find the replacement.

Extra weight.... Don't know exaxtly but feal the sport more stable, don't know if is the new IRONMAN coils or have more weight.

the work: well i maintained same OEM radiator, all drivetrain inclusive the same transmission, just cut the bell housing and welded the GM one, also flywheel had to be modified.

To allign the fan with the radiator, had to put a 3 inches bodylift, I made it from metar pipes with roud metal stops using the rubber bushing original placed between chasis & cabin, the bolts has been changed completelly for a 7 inches due to original bolts are wedded to chasis making all difficult.

here are the pictures:

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Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/04/09 02:58 AM

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what size wheels are you running under your Sporty, Brand, diameter, width, Backspace? This is always one of my favorite questions.


15x7.5 if I'm not wrong, back spacing I owe you that, have to take the measurements but are the OEM daihatsu Rocky ones

But I'm happy with the 32x11.5, the car is pretty stable.

with that lift (6 inches combining suspension & bl) easylly can run 34x9 MT's
Posted By: jaboo5322

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/04/09 03:18 AM

So, Sorry for sounding stupid. You mated a chevy 4.3, which is my favorite small motor, I should'nt say small, since it is actually allmost a smallblock. to the drivtrain of a sportage? Yes i guess that waa a question. I swear, the first sign of that happening, i will go find one in the yard. Do tell.
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/04/09 03:33 AM

More questions!! Is your rig auto or manual trans? Did you have to sacrifice the A/C? How difficult were the mods?
My rig has 268,000 miles on it and may soon need either a rebuild or modified replacement. I like the idea of a V6 conversion if I don't have to alter the rig too much.
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/04/09 03:36 AM

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So, Sorry for sounding stupid. You mated a chevy 4.3, which is my favorite small motor, I should'nt say small, since it is actually allmost a smallblock. to the drivtrain of a sportage? Yes i guess that waa a question. I swear, the first sign of that happening, i will go find one in the yard. Do tell.

It's a 2.8, not a vortec 4.3, it could be better, if I'm not wrong even smaller in size, but don't think that my sporty manual transmition can handle all that power without dying.

mine ispassing all the power from engine direct and off roading have to put the car on 4L 1st gear, if i put 2nd sporty will start running, the 4.3 it's my dream but had to change also the transmission & transfer to have more reduction and avoid to use the brake to contron the car.

I think that moderator should move all last post about the engine and discuss the same in other thread to debate about pros & cons and other possible engine swaps to not corrupt this topic <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/04/09 03:42 AM

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More questions!! Is your rig auto or manual trans? Did you have to sacrifice the A/C? How difficult were the mods?
My rig has 268,000 miles on it and may soon need either a rebuild or modified replacement. I like the idea of a V6 conversion if I don't have to alter the rig too much.

manual tranny, still have my AC, had to create a metal plate to position the compresor.

ther thinks are that I took advantage to use the GM Power stering pump, also change the alternator, its a Toyota one, here in Panama a new one cost like 30 bucks but the kia one can cost 300 bucks, also don't know but i had to repair it once a year inclusive i change it 2 times, so I made the Toy upgrade on the alternator too.
Posted By: minydigger

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/04/09 02:53 PM

All what power those 2.8's are junk especially the carburated ones. Do what you will but thats a poor power train swap should of used a 4.3L.
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/05/09 03:00 PM

I'm agree that best option is the 4.3L but remember that the sporty is not does not have heavy weight components to receive all that power without hurts, in my case i had a diesel engine and components like R&P transmissions, etc are differents and works on a different ratio than the gas ones, 4.3 means change all drive train, 2.8 I maintained my Kia transmission, transfer, etc
It's not the same Modify an Sporty than buy a Blazer K5 and put the Sporty cabin on top.

Cost for my Swap was arround 2.5k including labor, suspention and parts.

4.3 would be more expensive for me.

When I was looking for an engine, one friend was selling me a 258 engine, reason why i didn't took it, because had to change transmission (t18), transfer (dana 20), cut the front of the car, more body lift, in order to re-locate the radiator and all those bigger components adding to much weight, incluseive change the diferentials to danas, front dif is an aluminum one IFS, not too heavy, rear one an handle more stress.

This is my daily drive and my super modify rig is a 79 CJ7.

Agree that next step will be take off the IFS and replace doth dif with danas 4.56 R&P actual ratio on the OEM ones that I have & mabe a biger engine, at this moment I'm planing to put them Buick aluminium heads, overhaul that engine with oversized pistons and instal it a Turbo...

After that will definetly fly, but it's a long term project
Posted By: minydigger

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/05/09 03:17 PM

Should of at least went with a 3.4 fuel injected and still uses the same bell housing as the 2.8.
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/05/09 03:33 PM

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we can discuss the same there... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/24/09 03:31 AM

Suspension lifts here:


1)UPURKIA web page


2)Rcksportgear web page



Cool Stuff! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/29/10 10:21 AM

The following pictures show my new accessories that are not bolted on to my 2002 Sportage yet... These wheels are the reason I always ask about peoples lift vs. wheels vs. tires.
I'm going to trim the front side of the front wheelwells and probably mount my 235/75r15's on the wheels. I'm afraid I won't clear the rear side of the front wheelwells and the possibility of loosing the bead on the tires if I offroad at all with them. Plus the skinny tires will most likely look like some sort of stupid f***-up on the wheels sticking out so far. Any advise on this combo would be appreciated.

These are 15x8 with 2.5" Backspace
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Gorilla chrome all locking lug nuts & 4.25" removable center cap hubs with metal Kia center cap sticker emblems.
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Stainless steel valve stems and metal KIA center cap stickers with plastic protective cover on them.
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Gorilla 4.25" x 4.25" stainless steel hub cap with removable center piece and Metal KIA Stickers on the cap.
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Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/29/10 03:43 PM

Nice look'n wheels!! I think you wanted a little more inward offset but this will give you a wider stance.

How was the pricing and shipping cost? When are you mount'n em up?
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/29/10 04:06 PM

Picked-up 5 of those wheels from 4wheelparts.com
I want to trim the front bumper this weekend.
Wife said I can't mount them till next weekend??? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />
My wife said it'll look too stupid without atleast 10.50" wide tires. I agree, but need money for the rubbers...
So when they get mounted then I'll shoot pics ASAP. And you guys can crack jokes with everyone else. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/29/10 05:52 PM

The only joke I wanna crack right now is about the wife telling you when you can do $hit <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

I expect they will look just fine <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> please send pics when you have permission <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: jaboo5322

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/29/10 07:46 PM

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Picked-up 5 of those wheels from 4wheelparts.com
I want to trim the front bumper this weekend.
Wife said I can't mount them till next weekend??? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />
My wife said it'll look too stupid without atleast 10.50" wide tires. I agree, but need money for the rubbers...
So when they get mounted then I'll shoot pics ASAP. And you guys can crack jokes with everyone else. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


Rubbers <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> They stop <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />'s No really i get it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" /> I like the wide stance with tire offset. Makes your truck look tuff. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/mrt.gif" alt="" /> Kinda like a buldogg. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/oink.gif" alt="" /> It's a pig, there's no dog icon. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/29/10 10:38 PM

You got the dollar I sent you huh?

They look perfect!

I was "Kia when Kia wasn't cool!"

Where did you get that kia cap?

Oh yea, get permission first! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/30/10 03:54 AM

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Oh yea, get permission first! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />


It's easier to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission!!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/30/10 04:32 AM

So what Everet is trying to say is, do what the hell you want like the rest of us and worry about the consequences later <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/30/10 04:40 AM

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So what Everet is trying to say is, do what the hell you want like the rest of us and worry about the consequences later <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />



<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: jaboo5322

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/30/10 04:53 AM

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So what Everet is trying to say is, do what the hell you want like the rest of us and worry about the consequences later <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


Because remember, you don't necessarily have to sleep in the doghouse, cause the trusty kia will always be there for you. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Hydra747

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/30/10 04:58 AM

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So what Everet is trying to say is, do what the hell you want like the rest of us and worry about the consequences later <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


Because remember, you don't necessarily have to sleep in the doghouse, cause the trusty kia will always be there for you. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />
man,
do I know about that!
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/30/10 09:52 AM

Hydra,
The center caps on the Gorilla hub covers are removable, for lubing and/or turning of the Warn manual hubs I got.
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The aluminum KIA sticker emblems were ordered from a web site like this one: http://www.flashwork28.com/product_info....64b4211fdf1b9a3
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I got mine from Korea, was looking for a smaller diameter emblem to fit in the center cap insert surface area, but could only find emblems as close as .25".
I want all those Jeepers to see my Emblems when we roll through the Alaskan tundra. My jeeper buddies like to show off their Jeep emblems and brag about this and that. New comers like to make jokes about my Sporty, till they see me in action. The lil emblems will only add more fuel to their fire. So I'll stick them on and put it in their face. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/nana.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/30/10 10:05 AM

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69442: Jury .... we be'n judged on this crap

Don't even start craking jokes 69442 - We know your still rolling stock. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Sorry Bro - Had to put it out there. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" />

You guys are just a bad influence on me! Atleast my wife dosen't stand over my shoulder!! When I do put them on this weekend; then I'm blaming it on you guys!!!
Posted By: 69442

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/30/10 04:08 PM

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Don't even start craking jokes 69442 - We know your still rolling stock. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Sorry Bro - Had to put it out there. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" />



No sorry needed, I deserved that <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 2002_Sporty

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/02/10 09:53 AM

First off; Un-fortunately I don't have pics to post yet, but I'll get them up for you as soon as I can.

I put the 15x8" 2.5" backspaced steel wheels with 235/75/15 on the Sporty last week.

The wheels stick out about 3" from the wheel wells and I have the stupid body moldings on my sporty too.

This is the love it or hate it styling. The wheels are so far out to the corners; looks like a prerunner got crossed with a import tuner. I like the looks. would be better with wider tyres though. Every body stares at the Sporty now. I have had lots of compliments. They like my car they say. Mudd slinger is what it's been getting called lately.

I had to chop the hell out of the backside of the front wheel wells; and still need to do some pounding.
I cannot go above a 235/75/15 without major rubbing. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

Handles like a dream around corners now, and does not feel tipsy at all; even when the truck is tilting at 30 degrees.
I can whip the heck out of it at higher speeds and have no fear of tipping. The wheels are out there so far, I spit mud, rain, snow and rocks all over the place, all over everything, to include myself. I love punching it and watching the rooster tails.

Oh - I recommend no less than 3.75" backspacing if you want tyres bigger than 235/75/15 and want full steering articulation and tyre wheel well stuffing.
Posted By: LiorB

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/16/10 08:32 PM

Hi Guys,
I have a 2dr Sportage (the SWB) and a couple of questions.
I've installed TJ springs in the back with KYB shocks but I wasn't able to fit the 2" spacers in the front, I wasn't able to close the 4 bolts on the strut's mount.
Could someone please write the instructions to the installation? Do I need to remove the lower control arm?

In addition, after lifting the rear, the car started to vibrate at about 20 mph and it only stops at about 50mph, I figured it's because the new angel of the driveshaft. Did anyone came across this problem? What are my options?
I thought about dropping the transfer-case a bit, but on one side it's "sitting" on a bracket that is welded to the chassis, any ideas?
Thanks,
Lior
Posted By: londart

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/17/10 06:07 AM

you shouldnt need to remove the lower control arm.i was able to fit the 2" spacers and couldnt even remove my forks,only the 1 side...it is a real pain and takes time and patience,also somebody to help is real handy too...start on the drivers side as it seems to be the easier of the two...after the strut assy with spacer is in place start the upper bolts and thread in quite a few threads but dont tighten all the way up so that you have a lil movement,then concentrate on getting the back upper bolt into the forks...after that you can pry and jack the rest of it into place and then tighten everything up...this isnt something that is just an easy bolt on replacement you do need to work at it and use some muscle or in my case lots of muscle since the sway bar end links are seized in place not allowing me to remove both sides of the forks...be patient and you will get it...the drivers side took me about 1-1.5 hours by myself and the pass side took abou 8 with at least 1 person helping...i had nothing but troubles and did have to remove the pass side cv to get that lil bit of extra space i needed to jam it in there,probably wouldve been easier to remove the lower arm and replace all of it so i could take of both forks but didnt want to spend any more money than i needed to...good luck and no i dont have a vibration but im lifted front and back so dont know if its just because the back is lifted but i wouldnt think that would make a difference...good luck
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/17/10 04:11 PM

Never heard of anyone with vibration after a lift. Make sure your lugnuts are torqued properly. As far as your spacers, pm me a pic of them and maybe I can offer you some advice to make install easier.
Londart had a very difficult install but made it. They don't drop in like the rears.
Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: LiorB

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/17/10 05:48 PM

Thanks guys,
Everet, if I'm not mistaking you have a 4dr Sportage (as most of you have, at least according to the pics), while mine is a 2dr.
Because of the shorter wheelbase, the drive-shaft is shorter too, and that makes the angel between the drive-shaft and the diff bigger than in your cars (it's like you do a 5" lift).
My lugnuts are torqued properly and the vibrations started after the lift.
I guess that when the front will be lifted as well, the angel will drop a bit but I'm starting to re-think this lift and maybe to settle with just 1-1.5" spacers.
I'll try to take some pics and send them to you in the next couple of days.
What about the transfercase drop, did someone do it before?
Thanks again!
Lior
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/17/10 06:35 PM

If you removed your drive shaft then you might want to check everything you touched to make sure everything is seated properly.
I couldn't see how a lift would make your rig vibrate.
Also I can't see the angle of drive shaft making it vibrate unless the u joints are hitting as they are turning but then it wouldn't be only between 20 and 50 mph.
Interesting, I am really looking forward to finding out what this is.
Keep us posted! smile
Posted By: LiorB

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/18/10 12:40 PM

I took some pics of the driveshaft angel but I can't figure out how to attach them.
Anyway, strange as it sounds, it seems like the vibrations are a lot less noticeable after about 30 minutes drive, so what I'm going to do is to go back to the old springs and see if it changes things back or I was looking in the wrong direction.
Posted By: DamKia

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/18/10 02:57 PM

If you did not separate the two halves of the driveshaft then they should still be in phase. My guess would be the pinion angle may have changed with the lift, more likely that the pinion nose is pointing down. You may need to get an adjustable upper link made. An adjustable upper link from an old 80-90's Hilux/Tacoma with new bushings to suit the bolt size is available that may work (it did in mine, but mine is a 5 link longbody). Be careful how far you tilt the diff back as you will come very close to fouling the shockers.
Posted By: LiorB

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/19/10 06:29 AM

Thanks, that is exactly what I was told by a friend that saw the car yesterday.
I was thinking to get an old upper link and extend it a bit (it would probably cost less), but first I want to make sure that this is what is causing the vibes, i'm starting to think that I have a problem in the transfer, and that the lift just increased it, since after a short drive (20 - 30 minutes) the vibe are becoming less noticeable, i think it be cause the transfer oil (or the diff's) gets warmer, does it make any sense?
Posted By: LiorB

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/25/10 07:58 AM

Yesterday I went back to the stock coils and the vibes stopped.
I think I'm going to stick to 1.5" spacers.
Thanks for the advices.
Lior
Posted By: Moshe_Buhboot

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/27/10 06:15 AM

Hi Folks,

I finally decided to go with the standard 3" lift kit - RAV4 shocks, TJ 104 shocks and 2" tall spacers for the front. (I am getting it from LiorB who posted previously smile )

In the first post in this thread it was listed that one need drop brackets for the front lift. But I couldn't find any answer regarding on where to get them or how to make them. Another person has asked about it but never got answered.

Do I need the drop brackets or not? I don't want to get rid of the sway bar - I feel uncomfortable as it is, safety wise getting the 3" lift.. smile


Regards,
Moshe <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: midget4x4

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/27/10 10:53 PM

does anyone know where i can get 2" strut spacers from??? i sent everet an email and he said he was in hawaii and i dont want to hassle him too much. im at the point where i need new tires so im going to step up to 30's, but i want to do the 4" lift first. does anyone know of any others available????
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/28/10 01:23 AM

I'm back...so go ahead and email me @ everet@upyourkia.com

Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: midget4x4

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/28/10 03:20 AM

just sent you an email, cheers, kye
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/28/10 10:48 AM

Hi Midget,

I spoke with the Ultimate Suspension based out of Sydney on Monday enquiring about lift kits for the Sporty.

The do have astandard lift of 40mm and 50-60 mm in the rear. They also do higher which I hasve not discussed properly with rthem but they were very insistent about legalities and the fact that any higher would require engineering.

they supply and export to other parts of the world including Europe and Asia.

I sent them a link to this website showing them that there is still a market for suspension for the Sportage.

Any way another option for the Aussies to look at and our oversea brothers. I will post up my findings when I find out what is involved approx costs and what is achievable.

here is a link to Ultimate if any one wants to find out for themselves and can't wait for me to get to it.
http://www.ultimatesuspension.com.au/index.php

Cheers, Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: midget4x4

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/28/10 12:59 PM

hi chris, thanks for the info. ive actually been emailing everet now and he is sorting out his kit for me, i wanted something bigger than that anyway after just stepping out of a 7" spring lifted gq patrol, but once again thanks for the response, regards, kye
Posted By: flyinwall

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/30/10 02:01 AM

gee there is a fair few aussies on here now and i am stepping out of a 5" lifted 80 series down to the sportage that i have been rebuilding for the past few months and i am also looking for a suitable lift kit but im not too sure if im going 235x75's or 30x9.5's (i know its just idle ramble from out of my head and of no real benefit to anyone)
Posted By: midget4x4

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/01/10 12:50 AM

hey flyinwall, pretty funny how we are stepping out of big rigs to get into so called "soft roaders". after owning the patrol, the kia was only supposed to be a daily driver, but im pretty stoked with the way it goes so far, just cant wait to get the lift in <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: flyinwall

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/01/10 01:12 PM

i did some research when i was thinking of downsizing and i had a look at all small 4x4's (with a transfer case) and the sportage won the debate for me as it is wider and has better ramp over angles than a vitara and comes with a good motor (which i am keen on converting to a diesel using the diesel version of the FE which is the mazda R2 and putting a toyota sc14 supercharger on the side to gige it a little more go) and they were even used in the baja racing
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/01/10 01:17 PM

I always like the ;ittle bums from when they first came out. A guy from a 4wd club I was involved in bought one for his wife to drive. HE had a heavily modified 80 series landcruiser at that stage. He foundthe more he drove the SPorty the more he liked it. He was sold onit when he had to tow his boat with it as his 80 was broken.HE had concerns that the SPorty wouldn't pull it.

It is just a shame they don't have the aftermarket support of the others.

After owning mine I am a SPorty tragic. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />

Cheers, Chris
Posted By: Gerry_CR

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/07/10 02:31 AM

After reading this thread a few times, I moved into lifting my Grand Sporty, so I got a few of the parts.

However I'm debating about what to do in the front. What I got from reading is that you may opt for longer springs (IRONMAN or similar) or simply put a spacer on top of the strut (right?).

I was wondering what are the pros & cons of each.

The spring seems to me to "open/extend" the front shock, while the spacer seems to just extend the whole "arm" and probably forcing your tires inward (reason for alignment)

Well, that's just what it seems to me, but I will appreciate your comments and/or recommendation on one option or the other.

Thx,
Posted By: 2dye4

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/21/10 07:37 PM

Im fabbing up some 2in spacers for the front.

My questions is has anyone had any experience with the rear springs from a Jeep JK, 2007-2010 4 door. Ive read they give the TJ a 1in lift so Im thinking on a Sporty it will be a 5in in the rear?

Anyone use these newer springs?
Also will the OEM Jeep rear shocks fit?

Thanks
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/21/10 10:31 PM

What is the number on the spring? its length and spring rate.

The difference between 104's and 106's on a sportage is 1". I have never read what the difference is on a Jeep.

Everet
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Posted By: 2dye4

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/22/10 03:54 PM

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What is the number on the spring? its length and spring rate.

The difference between 104's and 106's on a sportage is 1". I have never read what the difference is on a Jeep.

Everet
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Thanks Everet, these are off the new Wrangler 4 door with the tow package.

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Posted By: 2dye4

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/22/10 04:45 PM

http://www.jk-forum.com/showthread.php?85825-Lets-Solve-the-Stock-Springs-Question

lots of info on JK springs in this link.

I think Ill be going with the 255aa from a two door JK, the 4 door springs seem a bit stiffer and a tad longer.

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Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/30/10 11:37 PM

I have made an enquiry with a new company in australia about suspension (OFF ROAD BOSS.

http://www.offroadboss.com.au/

I was drawn to them in a magazine as the picture of their rear shock does not have a dust cover which would eliminate some of the problems we have with lifting the rear, the rear shock position larger tyres on stock rims. I looked on their website this morning and the also do an adjustable height front strut. The shocks are also valve and rebound adjustable. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> Here's hoping that they are able to assist us with our never ending urge to modif our Sporties. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />

I personally am looking at a three in lift with Dobinson Springs but if they can do four with out cv issues etc I could be be swayed that way. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Cheers Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/05/10 06:27 AM

G'Day all,

I have spoken to Offroad Boss in Queensland Australia and sent a whole heap of photos of the front struts and rear shocks. Also sent through a few photos of the good work that has been achieved on this site in lifting the Sporty's. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> They are pretty confident at this stage from the photos that they can do something to help us out. They were also very surprised about the travel that can be achieved. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

Fingers crossed we may have adjustable dampening longer front struts and rear shocks without the problem dust cover for the rear.

I will keep you all updated as I am going to be the guinea pig on this. I need to replace the suspension on my sporty and the front struts are passed there use by date as well.

Cheers, Chris
Posted By: bingocouple

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/29/10 07:37 AM

Where can I find the springs for the lift on a 2000 kia sportage, I just got one and would like to lift it. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Can I just go the the auto parts store and get them? If so, what brand and part numbers do I need? Thanks again.
Posted By: Sportege_Panicmech

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/30/10 05:00 AM

You can't just order a lift kit for a sportage at your average parts store. There's only a couple options. They will probably look at you funny too. Everet can get your front end lifted with his custom spacers and swaybar extensions. He makes them and knows what he's doing and has all the info you'll need to put a lift together. You'll just need to search for the parts to lift the rear. You'll see his link on his signature. He had a post a few posts above here to go to his site. The parts we usually use on the rear come from rear Jeep TJ springs part# 104AA (3"lift for sportage) and 106AA (4" lift). You'll need shocks that travel farther than Sportage's OE shock. The 99 Toyota Rav 4 Shock has the proper travel and ride firmnesss to acomodate the springs.
To answer another's question, A lift WILL alter an alignment whether you use longer springs or spacers.. the result is the same.. the length from the top of the strut to the double wishbone still increases.
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Posted By: bingocouple

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/30/10 07:15 AM

Thanks for the info, I emailed Everet but havent heard back yet.
Is there a certain year TJ that I should be looking for for the springs? How about the shocks? any certain year?
Posted By: bingocouple

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/01/10 05:27 AM

I found a set of 425AA rear springs. Will they work? If so I can get them for 40.00 for the pair. Will they give me a 3 or 4" lift?
Posted By: Sportege_Panicmech

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/01/10 05:36 AM

I'd hold off on that purchase.. That isn't the common springs that I know of. My advice, you should get 104AA or 106AA. Unless you feel like being a guinea pig for us to expand our posibilities.. smile
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/01/10 01:52 PM

I pm'd you. Don't remember getting an email from you.
As far as springs go, Don't know of the ones your talking about. I do know that the TJ's work and fit. Measure the height, wire diameter, and spring rate and post it.
Everet
Posted By: bingocouple

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/01/10 02:31 PM

email sent, thanks Everet.
Posted By: bingocouple

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/04/10 02:02 PM

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This is my 2000 sporty that I am wanting to lift, Everet, I emailed you but havent heard back yet. Thanks.
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/05/10 03:05 AM

Same color as my 2 door. 2 or 4 wd?
I sent you an email, I'll send it again.

Everet
Posted By: bingocouple

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/05/10 04:24 AM

Mine is 4x4, My email is [email]bingocouple@yahoo.com.[/email] It funny , nothing has come to my email, Maybe I typed it wrong the first time.
Posted By: Sportege_Panicmech

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/06/10 04:45 PM

Nice looking sportage. Does the sticker actually say 2 grand? man, people just don't know what they're selling!! Even if KBB says it's worth only that, they are worth so much more! you can't get the life out of a domestic at the same price and any other import 4x4 is thousands more.. i love it!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" /> to non believers
Posted By: bingocouple

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/07/10 07:13 AM

I got it for 1500.00 cash. Blue book on it retail is 4000.00 in excellent condition.
Posted By: bingocouple

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/08/10 02:11 PM

Everet, I found a pair of 104aa springs so I got them, so in the near future I am going to need one of the kits that you have for a 3" lift. Do you take paypal or only money order/cash.
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/09/10 03:49 AM

I'll PM you the info.
Everet
Posted By: ackerman

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/29/10 08:53 PM

Im having a hard time finding any 106aa springs does anyone know if these are the same thing?

moog springs
Posted By: freddiespyker

Re: would realy like to know - 03/17/11 09:57 AM

hi is there any body out there who's got a automatic kia sportage? i my self got one and i dont have any problems with it on or off-road.please let me know if you do.
regards
freddie
Posted By: DRX350

Re: would realy like to know - 03/18/11 01:40 AM

The auto in a sportage is as bullet proof as they get!!!

The Baja 1000 winning kia sportage ran an essentially stock auto, and it had 180hp to the wheels! I've met the current owner of the thing...

I current have 180K miles on mine, and I flog it off-road regularly, I tow my 16' boat/ dirt bike trailer often, and all I've done to it is a pan drop and fluid change...
Posted By: freddiespyker

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/21/11 10:59 AM

hi i am planning on taking my sporty for a suspension lift at the end of the month if everything goes well with the finances.the point is that i did some shopping around here in south africa and came across a guy who does stretching of the coil springs then afterwards does the hardness treatment again to keep th strength of the coil and the ride quality in our currency it is R800 for front and back and they do all the stripping and putting back together.i think in your currency it would be something like $100 i don't think it is to bad for a 2" lift.
Posted By: freddiespyker

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/21/11 05:13 PM

hi can somebody tell me what extra work needs to be done if i do a 2" lift on my sporty for the suspention lift and the body lift
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/14/11 01:45 PM

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G'Day all,

I have spoken to Offroad Boss in Queensland Australia and sent a whole heap of photos of the front struts and rear shocks. Also sent through a few photos of the good work that has been achieved on this site in lifting the Sporty's. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> They are pretty confident at this stage from the photos that they can do something to help us out. They were also very surprised about the travel that can be achieved. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

Fingers crossed we may have adjustable dampening longer front struts and rear shocks without the problem dust cover for the rear.

I will keep you all updated as I am going to be the guinea pig on this. I need to replace the suspension on my sporty and the front struts are passed there use by date as well.

Cheers, Chris


Hi all,

finally an update on the adjusable Coil over struts from OFF ROAD BOSS. The news at the moment is not that good. Here is what I recieved off Rob from OFF ROAD BOSS.

Hi Chris, well we may have hit a bit of a problem. Sai has machined up the part, but the problem is our shock seats the spring a fair way up the body, which means once its mounted to your forks, there is heaps of lift from the word go. We can't get the spring seat any lower than 95mm above the original position. Looking at the pictures of where it mounts to the lower control arm, there will be a bit of a ratio factor, so we may end up with more lift than this. I assume this is too high, and may cause problems. Let me know what you think. Unfortunately I don't know if we have many options with this one, but we'll see how we go.
Thanks again,
Rob

I spoke to Rob this afternoon and they are looking at another way to attach their Coil over shock to the lower arm. Hopefully they will be able to reduce the overall height to a usable one. With the part they have machined up it will lift the assembly over 4 inches pushing the assembly past the useable cycle and height they we have to use.

I will update you again when I here more. hopefully it will be more positive.
Posted By: freddiespyker

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/15/11 09:25 PM

hi everybody i have just finished a 2" body lift on my sporty but i had a bid of a down side while lifting the body to slide the spacers in the heater pipes broke of because stupid me didnt disconnect them but ooowell at least the sporty got lifted next on the menu will be a proper steel front bumber oooo that reminds me does anybody have any drawings for the front steel bumber.i am looking into a 2" suspemsion lift to.
Posted By: joryb

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/31/11 12:38 AM

Is there anyway to get more then 4" of suspension lift in the front? I have 4" spacer lift and 1" body lift on 31x10.5s. I'm wanting to run 33s so im switching out the 1" body lift for a 3". A question about the 3" body, will i need to fab up a steering shaft extension? But what causes the front to only able handle a 4" lift, i still have plenty of room for the cv boot round the a arms and knuckle. Are the shafts extended as much as the can be? Or if cv shafts are at there max angle would lowering or raising the front axle help with more lift? I'm not really wanting to SAS it, i'm buying a 88 cherokee to make a rock climber that won't be street driven, kia is just the bad weather / mild offroading vehicle. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/nana.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: BAZINGA

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/01/11 02:17 AM

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hi everybody i have just finished a 2" body lift on my sporty but i had a bid of a down side while lifting the body to slide the spacers in the heater pipes broke of because stupid me didnt disconnect them


LOL, that happened to me to! Tokk me 18 months before I plucked up the courage to fix it properly.

heater core removal picture
Posted By: joryb

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/11/11 02:28 AM

bordem after finally getting a stock vaccum hub w/ 3 stripped bolt heads off and new warn hubs on both sides.

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ya i need to make a new back bumper, that one smashed into a rock
Posted By: Peabody

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/25/11 07:19 PM

I had some problems with the 3" body lift that was installed by the previous owner of my Sporty. So I decided to scrap those lift blocks and fabricate my own. It turned out to be fairly easy to do. I thought the "how to" might help out others interested in doing a body lift.

Note - I only needed 6 blocks because I'm modding the front end so I can install a winch bumper (click here for bumper thread). The same info is posted there. But I doubt people will look at a bumper-thread while researching body lifts...

Here are the 6 blocks. They are black acetal plastic (generic form of Delrin). You could also use HDPE or UHMW. They are all machinable using the methods shown. I have included one of the lift blocks that came with my Sporty, for reference.

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After marking the center of each block (both ends), I used a 2.5" hole saw to cut a groove in the top-side of each block. The groove was cut to about 1/4" deep. I used the groove to define the edge of the recess to be cut in the top of the block - to receive the base of the body bushing.

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I used the hole from the center-bit of the hole saw as a starter/reference-hole for drilling the bolt hole (using a 7/8" spade bit). I would have liked to have drilled the hole a bit smaller. But 3/4" was the next-smaller bit in my box, which was a just a little too tight for the extension bolts that were used with the original lift. And I had to reuse them...

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Next step - cut the recess. I did this using a $10 trim router I found at an auto parts store. A 3/8" carbide-tipped double-flute straight bit was used to cut the recess at 3/16" depth. I probably should have used a 1/4" bit because the cheap trim router didn't have a lot of horse power... Oh yeah, it only cost $10... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

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The last step was to taper the base so it would fit in the recess of the body mount. That was easy to do using the router armed with a carbide-tipped 45-degree chamfer bit. I set the depth-of-cut just deep enough so the base of the block would fully-seat in the recess. I did this step with my router table. But a trim router would do the job well.

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Installation was relatively-easy. I used my floor jack with a stack of 2x4s screwed together for a lift-block to lift the body from the side. If the lift-block is long (3-4 ft), it will allow you to lift the body without bending the undercarriage. And that seemed to be much easier than lifting the body from the front and rear, as I've seen described in other body-lift "how to's". Here are some pics of the blocks installed...

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I must say that I'm very happy with the fit - it's tight. And the black acetal looks much better than the white HDPE. I did add a "donut" of non-slip material (shelf liner) between each block and the body mount (acetal is also a self-lubricating plastic). Oh yeah, after machining, the final lift was reduced to 2-5/8". Hope this helps... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 1badcj8

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/25/11 05:25 AM

I have read quite a bit of this thread and have not seen any years listed... Are all years covered under these instructions or only up to 2002?
Posted By: jays2001

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/26/11 11:53 PM

mainly the first gen body is the one we are using it is the only sportage with a frame, not a unibody like the second and third have.
You can still lift it with a spacer on top of strut <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: DANIELG

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/23/12 08:06 AM

Are you still providing kits for lifts. Have been on yout web site and liked what I see. I have emailed you but have not heard back. Thought I would try this. I have an 01 Sportage 4x4 Limited. I found springs from a Australian company but they do not ship to the US. Some weight issues. Does anyone know if the 4 springs are available in the US? I am looking for a 4* suspension lift, not a body lift. If anyone has some info for the front springs I would appreciate any info. I have read here that TJ springs will work on the rear but what about the front?
Posted By: Sportege_Panicmech

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/24/12 01:31 AM

Everet makes front spring spacers and they are NOT body spacers.. They go above the spring and therefore extend your suspension. As for the rears. Yes, the rear TJ 104AA and 106AA rear springs work will. I have 104AA's on mine and it gave about 3" lift. and then I bought rear shocks that are meant for a 99 toy Rav4 go accomodate the longer rear springs. Everet has a site: www.upyourkia.com and he's in CA so he's close to you. Goodluck.
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/24/12 03:33 AM

Dan,
I sent you a reply via email. As far as a bumper, look at what Peabody is doing on this site.
I don't have any other suggestions currently.
Let me know if I can help you UPYOURKIA!

Everet
Posted By: TheGoat

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/02/12 02:21 PM

Everet, i emailed you but no response.

i was wondering what else would i have to do for a 4 inch lift that i don't have to for a 3 inch lift? i found a set of free 106 springs. i was planning on doing only a 3 inch lift, but then got to thinking.. is it just the adjustable panhard bar? who makes those or will it be custom re-weld job for myself?

edit: email received. thanks Everet!
Posted By: TheGoat

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/03/12 03:33 PM

edit; found some yellow tag 104's!!
Posted By: TheGoat

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/05/12 02:28 AM

225/75-15 Kumho SAT's. stock suspension.

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Posted By: TheGoat

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/08/12 05:46 PM

3 inch lift on the way! dang. that was supposed to be a surprise... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: TheGoat

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/25/12 02:59 AM

omygosh.. rear lift. 1.5 hours.. front lift.. still counting..

getting those bottom shock bolts off?? are you SERIOUS?!?!?!! GOOD LORD.. that's a pain. in the bum. one bolt destroyed.. ordering 2.. cause the other one is gonna get trashed.. i mean, really? they couldn't have made the flats fit a WHOLE wrench??

and then getting that bolt back in AFTER putting on the lift spacer is a two person one crowbar job..
Posted By: TheGoat

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/27/12 10:09 PM

all done!

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and my "idea" for the rear spring "keeper".

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Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/06/12 10:40 AM

G'Day All,

Have been chasing down rear shocks for my Sporty and was going to go custom made ones with a full extended length of 690mm but it is just taking too long.

Have rechecked the SPECS on the Old Man Emu Rear RAV 4 shock from ARB. it was made for the RAV 4 to suit a 1.5 inch lift so is longer than a standard one.

The standard RAV 4 shock is 617 mm fully extended.

Specs for the OME shock are; fully extended 629mm and fully closed 379mm.

Best thing is the OME shocks are quite reasonably priced, under $100 each here in Oz. (see sig block).

So I have ordered a set to suit my new 4 inch lift waiting to go in.



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Posted By: TeamCatFlap

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/06/12 03:10 AM

Man what a pain. Took an hour or so to do the rear on Saturday.
looks good.
Made some 2" spacers for the front to go with my 105 TJ springs (Based on some pics I've seen here I like the combo).

On day 3 of trying to get the passenger side (Right side)in. I figured I'd start with the harder side (again I've read here that passenger is the harder side).

Starting to think I need to completely drop the front diff. I removed the rear bolt to let it drop some. But no go.
And tried every combo of "which bolt to put in last" to see what was easier to pry and no go, been close, but not close enough.

Got the day off work tomorrow so I'll dig into it again in the morning before the rain comes back.....

I've done custom fit trans swaps that required a body lift and custom linkages and custom clutch made that were a breeze compared to this.
Posted By: TeamCatFlap

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/06/12 06:54 PM

So I decided to drop the whole diff some.
Like magic the whole thing went together like butter. No prybars.
Shoot, from shock laying on the ground with the spacer on top of it to the whole front suspension being bolted back together took maybe 20 minutes at the most.
smile

Got the driver's side in by popping out the axle and getting it all bolted together then jacking up the arm until I could pop the axle back in.


So. 2" spacers up front. 105 Jeep springs in back (The guy I got them from took them out of a Rubicon). With all the other usual bits to make it all work.
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Posted By: TheGoat

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/27/12 03:44 PM

looks really good! wish i had one with the 235's instead of 225's. but i'm ok..
Posted By: Runt313

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/01/13 05:11 PM

Simex has some great tyres for us in the 29x7.5x15 check them out tuff as nutz!
Posted By: DRX350

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/01/13 05:46 PM

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Simex has some great tyres for us in the 29x7.5x15 check them out tuff as nutz!


that's a 235/75-15...
Posted By: Shawn_Simpson

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/06/13 08:15 AM

Ok so I need it straight I live in Australia, I had a bit of a read through but cant find any straight forward answers about a 2" suspension lift on my 2002 Sportage. I have enough skills to install the components my self but in saying that I have a guy that can help me out.

I would like to know where in Aus cant I purchase springs and coils or if it no that simple what do I need to give it the lift with out the UpyourKia thing as this 4wd is also my vehicle that gets me to work so trying to keep it a legal as I can

Any help you would be great even if I have missed a post about the subject is the info up to date?

Cheers
Posted By: DRX350

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/06/13 03:32 PM

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Ok so I need it straight I live in Australia, I had a bit of a read through but cant find any straight forward answers about a 2" suspension lift on my 2002 Sportage. I have enough skills to install the components my self but in saying that I have a guy that can help me out.

I would like to know where in Aus cant I purchase springs and coils or if it no that simple what do I need to give it the lift with out the UpyourKia thing as this 4wd is also my vehicle that gets me to work so trying to keep it a legal as I can

Any help you would be great even if I have missed a post about the subject is the info up to date?

Cheers


look up Dobinson Springs. They make 40mm and 70mm lift coils for the Sportage. I've heard good things about them.
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/07/13 04:14 AM

I'm running Dobinson's springs in mine as well. Alot firmer than the originals. Bear in mind my lift is 90mm with Rear Spring and a combo of front fork extensions and springs for the front.

As you are based in Brisbane give Supension stuff a call as well as they advertise 75 mm springs for the Sporty.

shocks are different matter entirely. Basically you have standard height replacement in Australia, or find an alternative.

RAV 4 rear shocks give heaps extra travel but with a 50 mm lift you may need spring locators to stop them from popping out. I purchased the required metal ring insert for the bottom of the RAV 4 shock from Peddars. On my Sporty I am running TJ 30 mm lift rears. I believe the Old Man Emu RAV 4 shocks I got are valved way to soft. If I give the Sporty heaps and start the rear's spinning in grass, gravel or Uturning on the road I get axle hop. For the Sporty you a limited to the standard replacement struts (I got KYB in mine) however I believe the valving is way to soft with the Dobinsons springs. I'm not sure on Gabriel fronts but have heard bad things about them on the Sporty over the years I hae researched. Alternate is to get onto Everett and Sid the Kid for their coil over strut replacement which is described as a bolt in fit. May need to talk to them about valving though.

Also worth sourcing Everett's sway bar spacers for the front.

Any questions please do not hesitate to give me a PM

cheers, Chris

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Posted By: Shawn_Simpson

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/07/13 06:34 AM

Ok so this is why you dont ask questions at 6am after a 10hr night shift.

I noticed I wrote coils and springs silly me as thats all I can find. What I REALLY am looking for is the shocks for the front WITHOUT using the spaces from UpyourKia (I want to keep it legal this is mainly a road vehicle.

The rear is easy so I know what to do there thanks to this forum but there is no real info for a 2" lift for the front( Is there any or are spaces or fork extensions the only way)

Thanks for your replys so far hopefully with the correct info you guys can help me out further.
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/07/13 11:53 AM

The only way I know of to allow for more travel with a 50 mm lift inthe front is to use Everett's and Sidthe Kids replacement spring over strut.

Everything else you hae know way of allowing for extra travel to suit 50 mm lift as you are stuck with the standard design fron strut shocks.

Cheers, Chris
Posted By: Shawn_Simpson

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/05/13 02:58 AM

So it's been awhile, I have up sized the size of my tires from stock size to 225x75 R15 as im still unsure what I can do legally with the suspension lift (I'm seeing the easiest way is just get to 2in coils with stock shocks).

Any way took the new tires out on a small little track I know and what I noticed is the rear left tire rubbed on the shock mount on a nice bit a mound.

I don't remember any info on this in forum and I'm not going over the 30 something pages to see if this is mentioned smile

Is this normal on stock suspension and would the 2" coil lift fix this?
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/05/13 10:39 AM

This is normal due to the offset of the standard wheels.

To fix it you need new rims with a better offset.

Mine used to rub standard on the drivers side with standard tyres, no lift.

I now run 4 inch lift and Suzuki GV XL7 mag wheels and no issues with rubbing at all.
Posted By: Shawn_Simpson

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/19/13 02:05 AM

cheers i'll keep my eyes out for some
Posted By: jaybrian32

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/20/13 03:34 PM

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cheers i'll keep my eyes out for some


I'm sure I've seen a company advertise springs on ebay from Australia....King Springs??
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/23/13 01:32 PM

Yes, here in Aus the King Springs will give you about 40mm of lift, have been running these for a bit over 12 months, quite happy with them. No more "diving" of the front end over smallish bumps.
I've just got hold of some Jeep TJ 104 rear springs, and seeing as the install is a casual 20 minutes, put them in place, gave me a further inch of rear lift.
As for the front, am yet to source strut spacers, so the vehicle is still an inch lower in the nose. If I get a 2" spacer, I'll probably revert to the original springs, for an overall 3" of lift.
FYI, I did a quick measure of the lower A arm pivot lengths, the inner to fork is 250mm, the inner to outer (ball joint) is 370mm, so gives a ratio of nearly 1.5:1
ie a 2" spacer x 1.5 = approx 3" lift.
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/24/13 12:11 AM

Hi Davey,

Another way to lift the front is to source the front fork extensions from Korea. You can get 40 or 50 mm.

Bear in mind that this will have an affect on your upper ball joint if you keep the 40 mm springs.

It does however fix the issues of the springs been to close to the CV booot and tearing them.

I have 50 mm in mine however I would probably run 40mm if I was to do it again or just get Sids long travel kit coil over kit when it becomes available wghich should eliminate the bal joint issue.

Cheers, Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/25/13 04:13 PM

Ta Chris, yeah am gonna revert to original springs if/when I get the 2" strut spacers.
Am finding the rear TJ 104 spring to give quite a comfy ride compared to the seemingly stiffer Kings.
Am looking up exactly which rear shocks to go with, the OME site doesn't list any RAV4 items, but AFTER RE READING ALL 35 PAGES OF THIS THREAD, it seems that you got yours via ARB.

Seems stock 1999 RAV4 extended shock length is 617mm which makes for easier searching thru shock catalogues.

I've tried finding Korean links for the extended forks (50mm) and also want a front locker plus 5.38 sets, do you still have any contact info for these??

Dave
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/26/13 12:32 AM

Dave,

Try these contacts:

jinsung.park@colaon.com Trackfinder,NAme is Jin difflocks, adjustable panhard rod ?
picorp@hanmail.net PICORP (Ring and Pinions,difflocks and extended forks Name is Michael

From memory you should be able to source the ring and pinions, extended forks and adjustable panhard rod if required from Michael. In another thread I seen you can now source difflocks through him.

It has been nearly 12 months since people have made contact that I can work out so hopefully the email address's still work.

Hope this info helps and let us know how you go.

Cheers, Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/26/13 06:40 AM

Onya Chris

Am currently perusing the masterjeep.com site, has all the goodies I'm after, including TrackFinders.
With the extended forks, is it one set needed for both sides, or 2 sets, one for each side?

Does the PICORP contact work for masterjeep?

Dave
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/26/13 11:33 AM

I think it's two sets but can't remember as they were sorced for me. Flick them an email to clarify.

cheers, Chris
Posted By: jaybrian32

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/26/13 06:02 PM

Hey all, just thought I'd post a picture of the part number for the Rav4 rear shocks I've just installed, I measured then before fitting and make them to be 660mm at full length.[Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image]
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/27/13 03:13 AM

Thanks jb <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Just a note, shock measurements are taken from the top mounting surface (bottom of the stud) to the eyelet centre, so yours should be roughly 620mm.
I currently have my reaer jacked up <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> with the shock undone, at max travel before the spring falls out is 620mm.

Did you swap the bottom bushing/eyelet from the original shock into these ones?

Cheers
Dave
Posted By: jaybrian32

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 09/27/13 06:48 PM

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Thanks jb <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Just a note, shock measurements are taken from the top mounting surface (bottom of the stud) to the eyelet centre, so yours should be roughly 620mm.
I currently have my reaer jacked up <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> with the shock undone, at max travel before the spring falls out is 620mm.

Did you swap the bottom bushing/eyelet from the original shock into these ones?

Cheers
Dave


I did wonder if I had measured them properly, the bottom insert is a Procomp item my mate had kicking around from when he put ES9000's on his lifted Cherokee.
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/02/13 01:53 PM

I bit the bullet and have ordered a TF front locker and a set of 5.38 gears. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />
I remember someone on here offering tips for gear setup, still around??!
Do I need to buy a shim kit etc?

I was told that +50mm front forks weren't available, so got creative and made my own 50mm strut spacers - not as straight forward as I'd hoped lol.

With the 50mm spacers installed (standard springs)and at full extension, the outer CV boot rubs on the lower wishbone and the inner rubs on the top fork bolts.
Am I the only person to encounter this problem???

Edit: - I guess if I offset my lower spacer plate (outwards) it'll clear the shaft/forks, but wont help the outer CV/wishbone problem...
Posted By: Peabody

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/03/13 12:22 AM

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I bit the bullet and have ordered a TF front locker and a set of 5.38 gears. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />
I remember someone on here offering tips for gear setup, still around??!

Do I need to buy a shim kit etc...



Here's a link to my thread on my diff gear upgrade. It might answer a few questions for you...

5.38 R&P Upgrade!!!


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Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/04/13 02:51 AM

NOTE: When jacking the body off an Australian model, DISCONNECT YOUR HEATER HOSES!!!

I kinda might have to replace my heater core now.. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/04/13 01:24 PM

Hi Davey,

This is what the extended forks stop.

Have you tried contacting Picorp About the extended forks?

Cheers Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/06/13 02:50 PM

Yeah he's the one that told me the forks aren't available

With the Kings springs already giving me 40-45mm, think I'll just fab some 16mm spacers to give me a further 25mm, should fit over the existing strut studs with room for the nuts.
Will measure up tomorrow.

[b]Another pointer for body lifts - your fuel filler tube may dislodge from the fuel tank, check it after and/or install a longer rubber section.[b]
Posted By: jaybrian32

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/06/13 04:40 PM

Looking for pointers on the body lift.

Do I need to alter the front brake flexi pipes, or just relocate the mount that holds the hose to the inner wing?

I already have 40mm strut spacers up front, and the hose are pretty much maxed out at full steering angles.

Here's how she looks after 13 hours cutting and welding to replace the rotten sills with box section and rock slider.[Linked Image][Linked Image]
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/06/13 07:38 PM

Things that are affected by body lift:
Depending on amount of lift you will need to lengthen front brake hoses, clutch line, brake hose to rear brakes located towards passenger front wheel on frame, rear brake line that attaches to rear axle, fuel fill hose to gas tank and vent lines, shifters bent and lengthened, power steering tank location, front and rear bumper attachment point relocation if keeping stock bumpers.
And, I've probably forgot a few things.
Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: jaybrian32

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/06/13 09:29 PM

Hi Everet, I'll only be going 1 to 1.5" on the body lift, I don't fancy the expense of getting bolt extensions machined, probably cost me more than my truck is worth. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/07/13 01:11 AM

Don't forget those heater hoses <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Good idea to loosen the steering shaft splines too.
My engine fan was just clipping the lower shroud, cleared it by loosening the shroud bolts and forcing it down a bit.
Maybe a body lift advice post can be compiled by a mod and stickied somewhere?

I went with 1.5" blocks, cut from a 12" long poly boat trailer roller.
Had to trim the centre console plastic (including the vinyl boot mounting) behind the transfer lever, any higher would require trimming the metal sealing plate below it.
Posted By: jaybrian32

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/07/13 09:34 AM

A sticky sounds a good idea, I shouldn're have any issues with the cooling fan, I've already binned the stock viscous unit and fit a large electric item.
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/09/13 05:45 AM

Here's a quick list of things to check, others can add to it

Front brake flexi hoses
Rear brake flexi hose (front and rear)
Handbrake cables
Clutch line
Heater hoses
Radiator hoses (should be ok unless going huge)
Fuel filler (top and bottom)
Vent lines (near fuel filler tube)
Power steering reservoir
Steering shaft splines
Fan shroud
Centre console trim (behind transfer lever, both plastics and possibly metal surround on body)
Shifters lengthened/bent
Bumper mounts
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/09/13 06:05 AM

When jacking the body off, I lifted from near both middle (sill) mounts on each side. This allowed me to fit blocks to 2 mounts at once, either front and sill front, or rear and sill rear.
Remember to spread the load with wood blocks against the floor <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/09/13 01:48 PM

Hi all,

Found this website tonight surfing around. http://www.hotbits.org/index.aspx

They list shockswith adjustable dampening for our Sporties <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

There is a couple of distributors in Oz <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> that will contact to try and get some info.

Cheers, Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/09/13 03:27 PM

Onya Chris

Any idea if they are rear shock units only, or front strut assemblies?

Dave
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/09/13 03:32 PM

They list front and rear.

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Cheers Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: jaybrian32

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/09/13 05:09 PM

Hi Davey, we're going to lift the body off all mounts at once, the new sills on my Sportage should be more than strong enough to take the weight of the body shell, they're 3mm wall 4"x2" box section.
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/16/13 04:30 AM

Can someone please post a pic of their front struts with lift spacers installed, at full droop (down travel)?
Ideally from the front of the vehicle.
How is it your upper fork mounts don't hit your inner CV boots??
This is what happens to my setup with either 50 or 40mm spacers fitted...
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/05/13 12:41 PM

So I fabbed a diff drop to go with my 50mm spacers, to clear the struts, fitted it all this arvo, now my front end sits higher than the rear <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />
Gotta trade in my Jeep 104 springs for some 106's .....
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/05/13 01:00 PM

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Can someone please post a pic of their front struts with lift spacers installed, at full droop (down travel)?
Ideally from the front of the vehicle.
How is it your upper fork mounts don't hit your inner CV boots??
This is what happens to my setup with either 50 or 40mm spacers fitted...


Hi Davey, that is what the fork extensions fixed. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Cheers, Chris
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/05/13 01:27 PM

Yeah I know, but they're no longer available <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
So I made a diff drop instead.

Are your rear Jeep lift coils longer than standard, or just stiffer?
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/05/13 02:27 PM

They were 35 mm lift TJ jeep soft top springs? Perfect height match for the front suspension lift <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

cheers, Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: RyanR

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/02/14 04:01 AM

So I'm working on a 2001 sportage. It's for my uncles and will only be used for driving on the beach, and short drives to town. No serious off-road. So I'm ordering front lift from Everet, and know what to do with rear. Everet told me I need to talk to PeaBody where to get rear, and maybe front limited slip diffs. I just need wider tires, and locked up so it don't get stuck in the sand literally.
Posted By: Peabody

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/02/14 06:20 AM

If the vehicle isn't going to be used for any serious off-roading, I'd look into the clutch-based LSDs for the rear at a minimum... and the front if you want to get a little more grip in 4wd. Everet said there's a guy that posts over on the other KIA forums that can get good prices on dealer parts. I think that would be a good place to start.

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Posted By: RyanR

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/02/14 10:24 PM

What forum are u referring to? I just need a phone #, or the name of the company that makes the locker, or business that sells one. I read eaton makes one but no luck getting a part #. I just have very little time to lift, and lock @ least the rear. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Peabody

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/03/14 02:30 AM

Send Everet a PM. He can point you in the right direction.

There is a seller on eBay (Just Differentials) that was selling the Eaton clutch LSDs for the 1st gen Sportages. However, they only show a listing for the 26 spline unit. You need the 28 spline LSD for your rear axle. The front is a 26 spline (Kia never changed the front axle design). You can use a LSD spec'd for the Mazda Miata ('94-'08) for the front axle. I have a gear-based LSD in my Sporty's front axle. It works great.

NOTE: The differentials for the front and rear axles ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE!!! The rear has a 7.5 inch ring gear. The front uses a 7 inch ring gear. The Miata years noted above used the 7 inch ring gear in the rear axle, with the exact same specs for the diffential that Kia used for the front axle (EXACT!!!). But that's just for the differential carrier and side bearings. The pinions and pinion bearings may be different. Ah, but I digress...

Anyhoo, if you want a clutch LSD for the rear, you will either have to find one used or get one through the dealer. Eaton quit making the Sportage LSDs years ago. The only ones left are old stock and are really hard to find. However, Eaton made the LSDs for Kia. So the dealer part is the same as the aftermarket Eaton.

I looked at one of the Kia parts online websites and found this page: Kia parts - 2001 rear axle assembly. Look at items 8 and 10. You want the "limited slip" parts. Part #8 is the complete differential with housing. That will be the easiest to install (just bolt it onto the axle). Part # 10 will require transferring the ring and pinion gear. And if you went that route, you'd be better off replacing all of the bearings at the same time. For the price, to include labor if you would need a shop to do the set up, it would be cheaper to just buy the complete housing (#8). Trust me. I've been through this. Again, Everet knows a guy through another forum that can get the dealer parts at or near cost. That can save you a few bucks, for sure. Send Everet a PM. That's your best bet...

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Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/03/14 05:15 AM

For general beach driving, I found a stock standard Sporty to be more than ample (I'd get manual hubs though..).

For tracks with big holes, my front TF locker pulls through all I've encountered so far - maybe easier to obtain the TF front locker compared to the Eaton?
I'd go for a locker over an LSD any day, I don't find my rear factory LSD does much..

Just my 10 cents <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: RyanR

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/03/14 05:25 PM

Thanks for all the help. I called Kia and gave them the vin# and they said the one I'm working on came with a LSD, but it sure acts like a open diff. Tires turn opposite direction when rear jacked up. Must be wore out. Maybe I can take it to my rear end guy,and he can make it stiffer. I'll try calling a miata parts outlet for front. I assume the factory front is open.
Posted By: RyanR

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/03/14 09:19 PM

I tried ordering 1998 jeep Tj 106 AA rear springs and know one has any idea what 106AA means.
Posted By: Peabody

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/04/14 07:20 AM

OK... I had to do a bit of research on this one, just so I had my facts straight.

The Jeep springs used to lift the rear of the Sportage are 104AA, 105AA and 106AA. The OEM springs all have tags on them with these numbers. They were used on Wrangler TJ models, though they may have also been used on the Cherokee models too. Each tag number is thought to reflect a different spring rate, with 104AA being the lower/softer spring, 105AA in the middle and 106AA being the stiffest. However, it could really be a reference to the load rating. I think the springs all have the same height. But they compress differently under load, thus giving the Sportage varying degrees of lift (approximately 3", 3.5" and 4" lift, respectively). Again, that could be due to varying spring rate or load rating. But that's splitting hairs...

Regarding the purchasing of springs - new springs, specifically - you will probably only find the 106AA springs through a Jeep dealer. The after market options are coil springs with the part numbers 3229 or 3227 (Moog and a few other manufacturers use these numbers). The 3229 springs are standard for the Jeep Wrangler, and appear to fit all models within the line, regardless of submodel (i.e. Sport, Sahara, etc). The specs, per the Moog catalog are as follows:

Spring rate: 200
Uncompressed length: 11.28 inches
Bar diameter (diameter of the spring steel): 0.625 inches
Load rating: 653 (LBS, I think)

The 3227 springs are standard on the Rubicon line. I had to back-track to a message I had received from Everet that pointed me towards some aftermarket springs for the 2000 Jeep Rubicon. This was the fix for my Sporty's "loose rear" after adding dual batteries, a big steel bumper with swing-out spare tire mount, cargo rack and 2 gas cans (5 gallons each) on the back end. They are the springs I'm running now. They tightened up the ride, but aren't too stiff. To be honest, they are perfect for my gypsy wagon. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" /> I'm very happy with them. I would "guess-timate" these as being the 106AA equivalents. Here are the specs from the Moog catalog:

Spring rate: 200
Uncompressed length: 12.113 inches
Bar diameter (diameter of the spring steel): 0.625 inches
Load rating: 821


Summary: Look for aftermarket coil springs with the part number 3229 (standard TJ line) or 3227 (newer model Rubicon). They both will do the job. But I suspect the 3227 will give you a bit more lift and stiffness, or perhaps better handling with a heavier load, which was the case with my Sporty... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />

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Posted By: Peabody

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/04/14 09:11 PM

Did a little more research on the 3229 and 3227 coil springs from Moog. The 3227 is used on the Wrangler Sport (2002-2003), Sahara (2003-2004) and Rubicon (2003-2006), while the 3229 is used on the Wrangler Sahara (1997-2004), X model (2002-2005) and Sport (1997-2005) - all with the 4.0L/6 cylinder engine. The take-home on this is the Moog 3229 and 3227 springs are direct replacements for the 104AA/105AA and 106AA, respectively. The amount of lift and stiffness of ride will vary. But I'd expect the 3229 springs from Moog to be compatible with a 3-3.5 inch front spacer lift, while the 3227 would likely work better with a full 4 inch spacer lift in the front. Take that all with a grain of salt, though, because the size of your Sporty (2 door vs 4 door) and the amount of "gypsy" you have strapped to the <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/butwiggle.gif" alt="" /> will affect the stiffness of the ride and the amount of observed lift. Also, the load ratings are in my previous post are in pounds, while the spring rates are pounds per inch (lbs/in). If I were doing a lift on a 2 door, I would probably go with the 3229 springs, being that the body is lighter and the amount of compression from body weight will be less. As far as pricing, either set sells in the $59-$75 range (US prices). There's no difference in cost between the two. Food for thought...

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Posted By: Peabody

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/04/14 09:20 PM

And, for reference, here are some pics of the springs that were/are on my Sporty. The stock (KIA) rear spring is on the left, the 105AA that I had been running prior to adding the bumper and batteries to the back is center, and the 106AA equivalent is on the right. The spring on the right is about an inch taller than the 105AA. But it might be hard to tell from the camera angle.

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Posted By: RyanR

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/06/14 05:44 PM

Thanks for all the help.
Posted By: RyanR

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/09/14 05:15 PM

So I have everything ordered for the lift. I'll let everyone know how the install goes.
Posted By: Tommychu

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/16/14 03:06 PM

Is there another way to get ahold of Everet? I emailed last week (the @upyourkia.com address) and haven't heard back yet.
Posted By: RyanR

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/17/14 02:04 AM

I got my front lift from Everet today, and it looks good! (Thank you Everet!!) Already started the install, and I'll keep you posted.

Did u pm Everet? You may give him some time, he's been sick.
Posted By: RyanR

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/18/14 05:49 AM

Done with the front. It was a little tricky getting the spring spacers in, but it's done. I'll post more when I get the rear springs.
Posted By: RyanR

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/21/14 05:24 AM

We'll all done with the lift. Overall it wasn't bad. Allandall it took about 8 hours. Rear was superfast. I used KYB rear shocks, 99' rav4. Rear springs I ordered from my local spring shop, for 04' Rubacon. Wheels are Vision Warrior 357 16" x 8", with 265 70 16 4 ply ( to keep weight down) I made steel brackets for the factory front bumper to push the corners out so I didn't have to butcher the plastic. I also trimmed the plastic inner fenders front, and back of the front tires. I'm going to try to post before, and after pics (But I suck at that stuff).

Still upset I can't just order diff locks at a reasonably good price.
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/21/14 06:51 AM

Why not? The difflocks ain't that expensive from Korea especially shipped to the US.

You should try Australian prices for difflocks, you guys get them for a steal. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

I use photo bucket for my pictures, Found that the easiest way to post on sites.


Cheers, Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/21/14 03:09 PM

Diff locker is well worth whatever it costs <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Front lift spacers are a P.I.T.A. to do.. especially with stiffer coils. How's your cv clearance from the strut forks?

I got KYB RAV4 shocks for the rear too - but have found them way under damped, still usable at least. Mine is the long body version, could be why
Posted By: RyanR

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/21/14 04:35 PM

The cv clearance is tight. Actually the boots rub.
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/22/14 02:43 AM

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Diff locker is well worth whatever it costs <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Front lift spacers are a P.I.T.A. to do.. especially with stiffer coils. How's your cv clearance from the strut forks?

I got KYB RAV4 shocks for the rear too - but have found them way under damped, still usable at least. Mine is the long body version, could be why


Mine is under damped as well Davey all round, KYB struts in the front and OME RAV 4 rears and mine is the little bumb. I think it more related to the heavier spring rates.

myself and Runt 313 a still looking into trying to source a shock replacement to provide better dampening as well as fixing the front AARm issue with the 4 inch lift.

No issues with my struts as I was able to source the extended front struts which fixes the rubbing issue.

Cheers, Chris
Posted By: Peabody

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/22/14 06:00 AM

Here's what I'm running in the rear. Made all the difference after bolting a few hundred pounds of steel and 2 batteries to the rear of my Sporty.

The shocks are Pro Comp ES9000 series - #924515 . They are spec'd to fit the following vehicles (front shocks, I think):


1984-2010 Ford F-250, 1984-2010 Ford F-350, 1984-2010 Jeep Cherokee, 1984-2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 1984-2010 Jeep Wrangler

They're working for me. If you need a little more oomph in your shocks, give one of those sets a try...

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Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/22/14 06:06 AM

Thanks Peabody,

will look into it.

been a twin tube shock do you have clearance issues? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

I would like to try and find a fix for the front at the same time so it is balanced if I can.

Cheers, Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Peabody

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/23/14 06:25 AM

Howdy Chris - I haven't had any clearance issues with the twin tube shocks. But they are a tight fit in the lower mounting bracket. If I recall correctly, the shocks have an internal stop to keep them from over-extending. Here's a link to the original thread with more detail on the shocks and their fitment on the Sporty. I think that may help answer some of your questions...

Shocks or Springs?!?

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Posted By: RyanR

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/28/14 12:31 AM

I looked at the boots again they aren't rubbing. They only were rubbing when the front was jacked up.
Posted By: Tommychu

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/22/14 05:31 AM

http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/Boat-Trailer/3-1-2-in-End-Cap/8095150.p

This is an end cap for a keel roller on a boat trailer. It's 1 3/8" tall, 3.5" wide, made of polyurethane and fits rather nicely on top of a Sportage body mount. Not as nice as a 4crawler kit, but for $3 apiece I couldn't say no. I'll post install pics sometime this weekend.
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/22/14 11:36 AM

Nice find smile
My body spacers are made from a 12" PU parallel boat roller cut into 1.5" blocks.
Posted By: Tommychu

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/23/14 01:45 AM

So that's a thing.
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Somebody left a 13/16" reamer in the drill press. Awesome, I don't have to go looking for it in the tool room. Also urethane machines a LOT easier when it's cold. These were sitting all day in -15 Celsius outside.
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Little hole is now big hole.
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Confirmed 1 3/8" thick.
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They fit much better above the factory bushing than below since the curved edge mates nicely with the 'bowl' on the body side, but my factory ones were so horribly rotten that I decided not to disturb them after the first couple nearly crumbled right apart on me. The nuts came off very easily- surprising since my Sporty came from Ontario and I've had to take the torch out on every other fastener I've taken out on the undercarriage of this thing. I suppose that's mostly due to the fact that my impact puts out 550 lb-ft.
Also, I was far too busy watching my heater hoses to remember to pull the PS reservoir off. Don't skip that step. Spent the whole day today adapting my lines and bracket to run a Honda reservoir since there aren't any Sportages in the junkyards around here and all the other Mazda/Kia ones I saw had the barbs in entirely the wrong places.
Posted By: kiaracer

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/06/14 11:52 PM

Is there any source on an adjustable panhard rod? I'm a little concerned about the axle being pulled right when i get ready to put my 4 inch lift on. I've basically read through all 40 something pages on this thread and saw some that said it wasn't a huge deal and others that said there was rubbing on one side. I see Everet has on Upyourkia that he has one in development but it seems like I saw that on the site a while ago and Google doesn't seem to be my friend when i search for other sources.
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/07/14 04:22 AM

Hell of a read aint it <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I've got 5ish inches of rear lift, and my axle is noticeably shifted to the right.
Car also pulls slightly to the left when driving.

A quick look on masterjeep.com shows some that are/were available, it's just a matter of sourcing them.
Elsewhere in the thread is a drop bracket for the chassis end mount, might be easier to make one of those instead.
Posted By: kiaracer

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/07/14 02:29 PM

Yeah I read it off and on at work, it took me about 2 days and I also took notes!

I had read about the bracket idea and I might have to go that route. I haven't had any luck finding one. I might have to do some measuring but will probably have to do the lift first to get an accurate measurement and maybe I can find one that will work. My other option is to either make one or have it made which I have the resources to do but I'd rather buy one if I can find one.
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/08/14 06:48 AM

Hi Kia racer,

Have you tried this email address picorp@hanmail.net ? This is the gent we managed to source all our parts from in Korea including 5.38 Pinions, extended forks, difflocks and the adjustable panhard rod which I have fitted to my Sporty. His name is Michael. try writing your query and use a translation tool to convert you query into Korean as this seems to work in getting a quick responce. a link to the thread showing my suspension fitted.
http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showf...&an=0&page=4#Post1276433

The adjustable panhard rod is extremely beefy and I have had no issues at all with it so far including clearance which I had read could be an issue. All good so far.
Hope that helps.

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Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/09/14 02:23 PM

Chris, what was the rough price (US$) for the panhard rod?
I need to realign my rear axle at some stage..
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/10/14 11:06 PM

Davey,

I'll have to dig through my emails tonight.

cheers, Chris
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/11/14 08:32 AM

Around $245 US delivered. It was nearly two years ago.

cheers, Chris
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/11/14 02:03 PM

Thanks mate, will look into it <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Dave
Posted By: kiaracer

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/12/14 01:38 AM

Yeah that looks pretty beefy. I'll send the guy an email and see if he still has them available. The lift probably won't happen til this spring or summer.
Posted By: tspot

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/13/14 01:35 AM

does Dave's Rocksport still exist? all the link I find are dead. Was he making custom springs? I saw he had them for all 4 corners, that woulda been sweet.
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/16/14 06:13 AM

Haven't seen Dave post anything in a few years. I don't think he is building anything.
For rear springs, just use Jeep TJ rear springs. If you want new, get them from RockAuto.
If you want to get lift springs for the front, try King Springs in Australia. Why go with springs when you can do spacers?
Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: tspot

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/16/14 09:37 PM

Haha Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Likely I will be contacting you soon for one of your kits. I was thinking springs for the front would be nice to stiffen the ride just a bit. But I dont have unlimited funds and shipping from australia vs shipping from the states, well i know which one will be cheaper. Do you have any adjustable pan hard rods? That is the other piece I would like because although lots of guys say no issues with less than 100mm of lift, there was someone who had 40mm of lift and had rubbing on the shock in the rear driver side. my understanding is this is becuase the stock panhard bar will pull the axle over when the rear is stretching out. is this correct or do i misunderstand? I started posting on local jeep sites today looking for some 104AA's.
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/17/14 12:12 AM

Most guys that rub are running different shocks than the Gabriel ProGuard and they are running stock wheels. If you run something with 4" of backspacing, you shouldn't rub.
Don't make a panhard rod yet, maybe this year.
Everet
Posted By: tspot

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/17/14 02:49 AM

Yea I had already decided I want to push the wheels out further but after checking out the price for H&R 1" spacers Im thinking its more economical to just find some steel wheels with the backspacing that I want. or maybe some Suzuki wheels, I have to research this more. So in that case I wouldnt have to worry about the rear rubbing so much, but i would still like the axles to be in line with each other. I did see someone just made a drop bracket for the panhard bar, which would probably be easier and cheaper but I havent seen any really good instructions on exactly how to make it so it lines the axles back up.

I just noticed today the notes about the CV boots rubbing with the spacers on the front. Fixes seem to be extended fork, which from what i read seem to be only availale from Korea now, and I dont really want to import anything from korea. or dropping the diff. dropping the diff seems pretty easy, but does this then lift the front even more? how badly do the boots rub? is it something I will really have to worry about?

I have read this post about 2.5 times through now, there is a ton of awesome info and it did answer alot of my questions, thanks to all those who contributed so that those of us who are late to the party can catch up.
Posted By: promodmerc

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/19/14 05:50 PM

I have read all 9 pages twice but I have not seen this posted (unless I over looked it) so I will ask.

What is the measured spring o.d. for the 104AA & 106AA springs? I bought a pair of springs almost 4 years ago from a local salvage yard but there were no tags on the springs. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

The salvage yard did put a tag with the VIN on the springs. The 4th digit is F. Viewing the JK Forum's spring thread the "F" means it was a GVW 4000-5000 lbs which would lead me to believe the springs are 104AA.

I honestly don't feel like going through the 78 pages of post on the JK Jeep forum to see if it is listed. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Peabody

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/20/14 07:52 AM

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And, for reference, here are some pics of the springs that were/are on my Sporty. The stock (KIA) rear spring is on the left, the 105AA that I had been running prior to adding the bumper and batteries to the back is center, and the 106AA equivalent is on the right. The spring on the right is about an inch taller than the 105AA. But it might be hard to tell from the camera angle.

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Bumping my old post in this thread. Don't have the ODs measured. The Jeep springs are of similar height and OD. But the steel rod used for the coils is notably thicker on the 106AA vs 105AA. Hope that helps. If needed, I can jack my Sporty up and measure the springs.

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Posted By: promodmerc

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/20/14 04:44 PM

Mr. Peabody, It would be great if you could measure the actual rod diameter. My eyes are not what the use to be. I can see the difference in your pictures but trying to compare my springs to your pictures <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

I'm sure this would be of help for others down the road as well. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Peabody

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/22/14 07:57 AM

Measured the springs today. The 106AA "equivalent" (aftermarket purchased from RockAuto) measured 5/8 inch diameter, while the 105AA (the real deal) measured 19/32 inch diameter... slightly smaller, but measurable.
Posted By: tspot

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/22/14 08:32 AM

Peabody, what, if anything, did you do on the front to prevent the CV boots from rubbing?
Posted By: promodmerc

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/22/14 07:07 PM

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Measured the springs today. The 106AA "equivalent" (aftermarket purchased from RockAuto) measured 5/8 inch diameter, while the 105AA (the real deal) measured 19/32 inch diameter... slightly smaller, but measurable.


I'm getting between .572-.585 (rotating my calipers)which which is just under 19/32 so they must be 104AA or 105AA.

This is good news as I really didn't want to lift 4". I have a two door (with a Rally Top shell & removed rear seat) so I could see more than 3" of lift.

On the front I'm debating on replacing the springs. I had an alignment done mid October and the shop said they could not get the camber in spec as the front end has too much sag. It definitely needs from struts as the passenger side is leaking.
Posted By: Peabody

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/23/14 09:23 AM

I haven't had a problem with the CVs rubbing. However, they make contact with the upper fork when the wheel is hanging. I've considered devising a stop to limit the amount of hang, but haven't followed up on that thought. The other option would be to lower the front diff, as some have done. But that's easier to do with the non-american Sporties because one of the brackets is different. I'm a bit hesitant to go the route of lowering the diff, as I see it defeating the goal of gaining max clearance for the undercarriage. I'd rather have the inch or two of clearance and less articulation in the front end than knocking an aluminum axle housing on a rock. But that's just my opinion.

FYI: Rescue Tape can seal small holes in your CV boot. I used it to patch mine after discovering the limit of travel... the hard way... and it's holding up well. Definitely worth keeping a few rolls in you rig for emergency repairs on the trail. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: tspot

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/23/14 04:54 PM

Thanks Peabody. So even with a 4" lift, the only time the CV boot rubs is when the wheel is at full hang? That is not so bad, seems like you could just be mindful when you are in these kind of situations. Id say 99% of my driving would not include those kind of situations. Im just building a trail rig, but we all like to push it once in a while haha.

Actually I might try to contact the guy in Korea to see if the 50mm fork extensions are still available. This really seems like the ideal solution and they aren't HUGE so maybe shipping won't be ridiculous. Any downside to using fork extensions?
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/24/14 07:50 AM

Extended forks will give the same CV boot rub if the lift is the same, it rubs on the lower suspension arm at full hang. The biggest downside to these forks is they're not available any more <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> at least I tried and was told they can't be had in Korea.. if you find some let me know!!
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/24/14 11:02 AM

Working on it <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />

Hopefully have some news early next year <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Cheers Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: tspot

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/25/14 05:43 AM

I thought the extended forks were supposed to fix the CV boot rubbing issue?? Are you saying it just makes it rub on something else?

Who are you talking to 4runner? I just tried emailing picorp yesterday, still waiting for a response.
Posted By: Peabody

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/25/14 06:56 AM

What 4runner is saying is that the extended forks are no longer in production and the residual stock has dried up. Here's a link to them on Masterjeep. This is a company in South Korea that sells aftermarket parts for the Sportage. They have none in stock. Picorp has been hit and miss. I suggest contacting "nicemotors" on eBay. If you can find what you want in South Korea, this guy can get it for you. He may even be able to source it for you. That's how I purchased my rear locker via Masterjeep. If I was looking for parts direct from Korea, I'd go through him again. No harm in trying... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/25/14 02:29 PM

As far as I know the extended forks fixes this issue, although I don't have any down travel thanks to my lift on the front I do not experience this issue. I am also running a front diff drop with the extended forks, with 40 mm lift springs (no spacers) making a approx goal of 90 mm lift in theory although I expect it is a bit higher., with no rubbing.

I am in the process with a suspension company in QLD AUSTRALIA called Performance Suspension http://www.performancesuspension.com.au. In designing a new AArm for a 4 inch lift to regain some down travel and take the pressure off the upper balljoint causing separation in extreme cases as RUNT 313 has managed to find in his offroad excursions.

Thanks to Runt313 we were also able to provide Chris the company owner with a set of extended forks to see if he can reproduce them. He is visiting his production factory in Taiwan where he gets.a lot of his development work done early next year and is taking the forks with him to see if they can reproduce them.

He is quite keen to modify a Sporty although he realises it will be a low volume seller so if it comes off if every one can get behind his efforts by purchasing that would AWSOME. He is also looking into struts and rear shocks to suit with heavier valving but that is further down the track. Just want the AARMS and hopefully extended forks in production. So if there is an Aussie near the Gold Coast looking to lift their Sporty, give Chris a call as he want's to get his hands on a vehicle to see if he can get all these items to work.

I have sent him struts, forks and AArms but nothing beats having the actual vehicle in the workshop. An interesting observation was the stuts from a VW AMAROCK PICKUP WERE A SIMILAR DESIGN TO THE SPORTY's and he was hoping he could modify to fit.

I was attracted to this company originally as they had designed and released in Australia extended ball joints for the Nissan D40 Navara/pathfinder and I was hoping they could do the same thing for the Sportage.

Here is hoping the AArms come off and I am testing a set before to long in the new year. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />

Cheers Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: tspot

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/26/14 03:27 AM

Peabody, thanks for the tip on nice motors. I was asking Davey what he meant by this post.
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Extended forks will give the same CV boot rub if the lift is the same, it rubs on the lower suspension arm at full hang. The biggest downside to these forks is they're not available any more <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> at least I tried and was told they can't be had in Korea.. if you find some let me know!!


4runner - a new A arm sounds pretty cool, shipping might kill the deal for me but im definitely interested.
Posted By: kiaracer

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/15/14 01:50 AM

i'm interested as well. I'm back to looking at a lift again. My front struts are shot and what better opportunity to replace them than while doing a lift to it. I planned on replacing the front springs too so I'd like to find some lift springs that will fit without having to use a spacer. A spacer just seems as a "cheaty" way of doing it and I'd like to do it right the first time instead of having to go back and fix something that broke later. I'm a technician at a Kia dealer and I hate working on the same problem on the same vehicle more than once.
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/16/14 06:02 AM

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What 4runner is saying is that the extended forks are no longer in production and the residual stock has dried up. Here's a link to them on Masterjeep. This is a company in South Korea that sells aftermarket parts for the Sportage. They have none in stock. Picorp has been hit and miss. I suggest contacting "nicemotors" on eBay. If you can find what you want in South Korea, this guy can get it for you. He may even be able to source it for you. That's how I purchased my rear locker via Masterjeep. If I was looking for parts direct from Korea, I'd go through him again. No harm in trying... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />


It seems Picorp is back on line. I recieved an email off him today with an updated price list. picorp@hanmail.net

Here is the latest update.
PLEASE REFER TO THE BELOW ITEMS FOR SPORTAGE AS WE CAN
SUPPLY IT FROM OUR STOCK.

WE CAN SUPPLY A PARTS FOR SPORTAGE 2001 YEAR AND
PLEASE REFER TO THE BELOW PRICE AND INFORM US WHAT YOU NEED FOR
CHECKING COURIER CHARGES(BY EMS).
1. PAN HARD ROD : U$160.34
2. REAR 28 SPLINE LOCKER : U$420.00
3. FRONT 26 SPINE LOCKER : U$420.00
4. REAR 26 SPLINE LOCKER : U$420.00
5. 5.38 RING & PINION SET : U$394.00

THANKS.
MICHAEL.

Cheers, Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/18/14 03:21 PM

BAH Attachment doesn't seem to work.. can't upload pic.. etc..


Here's a little clarification on CV boot clearance.

This pic (click Attachment in title bar above..) is taken at full down travel, note the CV boot contacts the lower suspension arm.
This would only rub when in 4WD and hanging the wheel in the air, so not a problem in daily driving.
I'm yet to wreck a boot, and I hang the wheels in the air often <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" /> [img]http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/download.php?Number=1295829[/img]

Attached picture 1295829-DSC00679reduced.JPG
Posted By: tspot

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/03/15 07:34 AM

I cant get your pics to work!

Thanks though Davey that does clear things up. I have some custom ideas starting to fix any rubbing issues in the front that I dont think would be too expensive.

With a 4" spacer lift on the front, do the boots rub on the struts in daily driving situations or again only when hanging the front wheels?
This is something I think could be fixed easily but im wondering if it will be ok to drive on for a while after i install the lift but before i get the costom work done

Thanks for posting that info 4runner, I tried emailing that guy a month ago but got no reply. I emailed about forks though. Im starting to lean towards locker so i might need that info.
Posted By: ultim8m

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/17/15 04:47 AM

Ive just picked up a 1999 sportage, im in Perth, Australia, and have read through this thread and seem to have confused myself more.

at this stage i am looking at dobinson springs with kyb struts for a 40mm lift , with this combo do i need to do the swaybar drop? and is this a better option than tj rears and spacer kit?
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/17/15 04:59 AM

Hey mate, you've come to the right place for info at least!

Dobinsons and Kings do 40mm spring lifts, I believe Dobinsons also do a 70mm version.

TJ rear springs will get you about 3-3.5" (75-85mm) in the back, while front strut spacers will give you about twice the spacer thickness eg 2" spacer gives ROUGHLY 4" lift or a bit under.

I have some rear Kings or TJ coils if you ever want to try some, I'm in Perth too

Welcome to the forum and Sporties <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: ultim8m

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/17/15 05:27 AM

I was debating whether to go for the 40mm or the 3-4" lift

with tj springs i need to get rav 4 shocks is that correct? and tj bump stops?

I've got the radiator out at the moment and getting another this week as i got dudded with the old pepper to fix a leak trick. whilst on that topic, i was going to swap to electric thermo while its all out?

where abouts in perth are you? it would be good to see one with all the work done and get some advice on the options
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/17/15 05:47 AM

Depends how you plan to use ya Sporty, and what sized tyres you plan to run.
You can install TJ springs in the back with std shocks, you just won't have as much articulation or droop. I am still running the standard bump stops too.
Elec fan is probably a good idea so long as it's big enough and ideally shrouded. I'm still running a standard (though renewed) clutch fan with no problems.
I'm SOR, 6163, whereabouts are you?
Posted By: ultim8m

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/17/15 07:03 AM

i was only considering electric because of the improved power and less drag on the motor, if i went that way it would be a 16" with the factory shroud, i may just stick with the viscous setup,

it will mostly be used for camping and beach, but i enjoy the occasional play in an offroad area too, tyres i wasnt going to go too big, 235/75r15 or maybe 30 x 9.5 would be the max

im in the far north, ellenbrook, but head down that way fairly often
Posted By: ultim8m

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/18/15 02:53 AM

After receiving a very detailed email from Everet (thank you) i have decided i will be ordering a 3" spacer kit, and then getting some tj springs and rav4 shocks.
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/18/15 03:26 AM

I've got some TJ springs here, used of course, $50
Posted By: ultim8m

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/18/15 03:57 AM

Brilliant, I will grab those please, are they the 104aa's?
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/18/15 03:59 AM

Yeah I think so, from memory I put the 105's on mine
Posted By: ultim8m

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/18/15 04:28 AM

Brilliant, Thank you

What shocks would you recommend with them, Everet suggested gabriel proguard, however we only get the guardian or ultra over here, i havn't been able to find the proguard locally
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/18/15 04:35 AM

Go with whatever has the highest damping rate, as RAV4 shocks are a little light for our application.
I'm guessing your 99 Sporty is the short body version?
Posted By: ultim8m

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/18/15 04:42 AM

yer its the short body, all stock at the moment other than wheels, and basic stuff like spotties, nudge bar and roof racks
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/18/15 06:20 AM

I went with OME RAV 4Shocks as they are the longest I could find. Rear travel is AWSOME. Don't forget to source the correct bushing for the bottom eye of your shock. I went to Peddars for mine.

I wouldn't want a shock any longer as with my springs (Dobinsons 35 mm TJ JEEP HARDTOP) on full droop I can get the springs to move slightly on the top perch. The lift is around 90mm or almost 4 inch.

The shock is under valved however the OME shock I believe is the perfect length for those of us with 4 inch lifts. Try a custom shock maker utilising the OME RAV 4 shock specs for long and see if they can provide a firmer valved shock. If you are successful let us all know.

Cheers, Chris
Posted By: SlidinSportage

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/27/15 10:41 AM

heys huys I'm new to this page aswell as lifting vehicles, I have been looking through the posts but I'm getting a headache as there is so many so would someone be able to help me out with front and rear spacers, I have stock suspension and just want a bit more ground clearance without braking the budget which is tight lol, I know up your kia does something but I havent heard back from him yet. Thanks.
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/27/15 03:05 PM

Rear - rather than use spacers, either go for Jeep TJ Wrangler springs (about 3", tagged 104AA) or aftermarket Sporty springs (Kings 40mm, Dobinsons 70mm). If you really wanna use spacers, you can find 50mm poly ones on ebay for TJ Jeeps

Front - Kings or Dobinsons springs, or a 40-50mm spacer. Can make your own if you're handy.
Posted By: SlidinSportage

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/28/15 10:47 AM

Will the stock sportage shocks handle the Kings springs with a lift of 40-50mm? Eventually I would get extended shocks but can't afford to do it all at once.
Posted By: Davey

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 06/28/15 01:26 PM

Stock shocks with Kings is fine.
RAV4 shocks are longer and a bit underdamped for the Jeep springs, I haven't sourced a better alternative yet.
RAV4 shocks and standard or Kings will allow your rear springs to fall out <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Blue91SL

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 07/23/15 05:05 AM

Hey guys, I'm looking at getting a set of 436AAs for my Sporty. I don't see much info on them, but for the price I'm willing to try them out. They're off of an '06 Unlimited, and I'd love to know if anyone has any input on them. Cross-referencing them to a Moog part number, they are 3226. I know the 104AA and 106AA are 3227 and 3229, so I'm assuming they will at least fit. But how much of a lift?
Posted By: Dmarlar69

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/20/15 10:33 PM

I was just wondering if there is another name for the drop down brackets for the front sway bar, and where can i get them.
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/21/15 10:52 AM

Google UP YOUR KIA

Or give Everet a PM .

Or try his email.

everet@upyourkia.com

Cheers, Chris
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/22/15 03:24 AM

Do you need them for a lifted Sportage or do you need them for a stock suspension sportage?
Everet <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: rduran89

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 10/27/15 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by 4runnernomore
As far as I know the extended forks fixes this issue, although I don't have any down travel thanks to my lift on the front I do not experience this issue. I am also running a front diff drop with the extended forks, with 40 mm lift springs (no spacers) making a approx goal of 90 mm lift in theory although I expect it is a bit higher., with no rubbing.

I am in the process with a suspension company in QLD AUSTRALIA called Performance Suspension http://www.performancesuspension.com.au. In designing a new AArm for a 4 inch lift to regain some down travel and take the pressure off the upper balljoint causing separation in extreme cases as RUNT 313 has managed to find in his offroad excursions.

Thanks to Runt313 we were also able to provide Chris the company owner with a set of extended forks to see if he can reproduce them. He is visiting his production factory in Taiwan where he gets.a lot of his development work done early next year and is taking the forks with him to see if they can reproduce them.

He is quite keen to modify a Sporty although he realises it will be a low volume seller so if it comes off if every one can get behind his efforts by purchasing that would AWSOME. He is also looking into struts and rear shocks to suit with heavier valving but that is further down the track. Just want the AARMS and hopefully extended forks in production. So if there is an Aussie near the Gold Coast looking to lift their Sporty, give Chris a call as he want's to get his hands on a vehicle to see if he can get all these items to work.

I have sent him struts, forks and AArms but nothing beats having the actual vehicle in the workshop. An interesting observation was the stuts from a VW AMAROCK PICKUP WERE A SIMILAR DESIGN TO THE SPORTY's and he was hoping he could modify to fit.

I was attracted to this company originally as they had designed and released in Australia extended ball joints for the Nissan D40 Navara/pathfinder and I was hoping they could do the same thing for the Sportage.

Here is hoping the AArms come off and I am testing a set before to long in the new year. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />

Cheers Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />




Hello,

I am from Brazil and my Sportage is with 45mm lift on suspension.
I'm having a lot of problems with the front arm and ball joint.
Have you finished developing this kit?
Not found on the website indicated no kit to sportage.


[img]http://www.4x4brasil.com.br/forum/image.php?u=57317&dateline=1443525585[/img]


Posted By: Itsokay

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/21/16 10:26 AM

Tried getting some simple info on stroke length and shock size from the "upyourkia" dude but was met with some resistance... Apparently wanting to know what the stroke length of his coilovers are to determine what tire size to use is not a common question... I thought we were all here to help one another out??? Am I missing something?
Posted By: Itsokay

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/22/16 05:39 PM

I simply wanted to know the shock size and stroke. Which is a normal question to determine how much increase in travel will it offer and which size tires would work best. The response I received was and I quote "I don't give out that information anymore, last time I gave that information out someone posted drawings and part numbers!"...... So you have to BUY his kit FIRST (at whatever price that is, I never got that far with him to ask how much...) in order to get any technical specs about it! Seems like a pretty shady way to do business but what do I know...? So far for me "Upyourkia" has not been a very good resource! If anybody knows another "viable" source I could get some answers from please post. Thanks.
Posted By: Itsokay

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/25/16 07:21 PM

Does anyone have pictures of what exactly comes with the "upyourkia" kits? Sounds like there not a lot there at $200??? Just curious.
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/26/16 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by rduran89
Originally Posted by 4runnernomore
As far as I know the extended forks fixes this issue, although I don't have any down travel thanks to my lift on the front I do not experience this issue. I am also running a front diff drop with the extended forks, with 40 mm lift springs (no spacers) making a approx goal of 90 mm lift in theory although I expect it is a bit higher., with no rubbing.

I am in the process with a suspension company in QLD AUSTRALIA called Performance Suspension http://www.performancesuspension.com.au. In designing a new AArm for a 4 inch lift to regain some down travel and take the pressure off the upper balljoint causing separation in extreme cases as RUNT 313 has managed to find in his offroad excursions.

Thanks to Runt313 we were also able to provide Chris the company owner with a set of extended forks to see if he can reproduce them. He is visiting his production factory in Taiwan where he gets.a lot of his development work done early next year and is taking the forks with him to see if they can reproduce them.

He is quite keen to modify a Sporty although he realises it will be a low volume seller so if it comes off if every one can get behind his efforts by purchasing that would AWSOME. He is also looking into struts and rear shocks to suit with heavier valving but that is further down the track. Just want the AARMS and hopefully extended forks in production. So if there is an Aussie near the Gold Coast looking to lift their Sporty, give Chris a call as he want's to get his hands on a vehicle to see if he can get all these items to work.

I have sent him struts, forks and AArms but nothing beats having the actual vehicle in the workshop. An interesting observation was the stuts from a VW AMAROCK PICKUP WERE A SIMILAR DESIGN TO THE SPORTY's and he was hoping he could modify to fit.

I was attracted to this company originally as they had designed and released in Australia extended ball joints for the Nissan D40 Navara/pathfinder and I was hoping they could do the same thing for the Sportage.

Here is hoping the AArms come off and I am testing a set before to long in the new year. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />

Cheers Chris <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />




Hello,

I am from Brazil and my Sportage is with 45mm lift on suspension.
I'm having a lot of problems with the front arm and ball joint.
Have you finished developing this kit?
Not found on the website indicated no kit to sportage.


[img]http://www.4x4brasil.com.br/forum/image.php?u=57317&dateline=1443525585[/img]




Unfortunately not yet. Still have not given up however We are in two different states approximately 3000 km from each other.

He needs a vehicle their to do some measuring and I have not been able to find anyone that is close to the Gold Coast area with a Sportage to assist . I may have to make the trip across myself if this is to happen

Cheers, Chris
Posted By: Itsokay

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/26/16 05:40 AM

Class.... Bueller.....Bueller......anyone.....????? Can anyone tell me of any other reputable source other than "upyourkia" for information on lifting a Kia Sportage...??? Or does anyone have pictures of a lift they have done so I can see what is involved??? I have looked through this link and see no pictures of actual components... Help a brutha out please. . .
Posted By: Itsokay

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/27/16 09:31 PM

Cool, thanks everyone.....
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/28/16 01:37 PM

Mate search is your friend, there is heaps of information on this site. It is probably the most comprehensive resource you will find for our vehicles along with Kia-forums.com.

Here is all to when I had my suspension fitted. http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/1058036/Searchpage/1/Main/133862/Words/4runnernomore/Search/true/Re:_Suspension_been_fitted.html#Post1058036

Don't take this personally but you have come across quite aggressive with your posts, just my observation do could be a reason why you have not had much luck. Like I said with just an outsiders observation.

Hope the link helps. Cheers Chris

Posted By: promodmerc

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/31/16 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by fabsport
I simply wanted to know the shock size and stroke. Which is a normal question to determine how much increase in travel will it offer and which size tires would work best. The response I received was and I quote "I don't give out that information anymore, last time I gave that information out someone posted drawings and part numbers!"...... So you have to BUY his kit FIRST (at whatever price that is, I never got that far with him to ask how much...) in order to get any technical specs about it! Seems like a pretty shady way to do business but what do I know...? So far for me "Upyourkia" has not been a very good resource! If anybody knows another "viable" source I could get some answers from please post. Thanks.


First off he does not make coil over shocks. He makes lift spacers which are used with your existing front struts & coils.

Second off, did you bother going to his website? It tells you EXACTLY what is included.

Third off all the information you are wanting in regards as to how large of a tire you can run is all listed in this thread.
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/31/16 06:41 PM

Hey Promodmerc,
Haven't posted here in awhile.
I actually do sell a coilover kit that is custom made by Sid the Kid. He has spent months developing and testing his kit and for me to give up the shock/spring information is just not smart for business. Also the kit is around $1000.00 and I think there are pictures posted on this site.

Thanks for explaining that everything in the kit is on my website.

I'm going to update my website soon and will be including this picture of the kit:
[Linked Image]

Unfortunately, I will not be supplying prints and part numbers for this kit (that sells for $185.00 NOT $200.00 and includes 1-3 day shipping), because I'm shady.
So this may sound like quite a bit of money, but some people don't understand the cost of doing business. Things like buying a lathe, mig welder, drill press, precision jigs/fixtures, consumables, quality not crap parts, and yes... a small profit.
I have read that Day-Star is coming out with spacers for around $200.00, so I guess that $185.00 is quite high for a kit with a lot more stuff.
Hope to be shipping kits by mid-Feburary due to some health issues and back-ordered pieces.
Everet


EVERET@UPYOURKIA.COM


Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/31/16 07:01 PM

fabsport,
Sorry that you are disappointed that I didn't give you the information you wanted.
If you would have done any research at all, you would know that I am anything but shady. I never attacked you and I was quite honest in the reply I gave you.
Good luck in making your own lift kit.
Everet


Posted By: promodmerc

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/01/16 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by Everet
Hey Promodmerc,
Haven't posted here in awhile.
I actually do sell a coilover kit that is custom made by Sid the Kid. He has spent months developing and testing his kit and for me to give up the shock/spring information is just not smart for business. Also the kit is around $1000.00 and I think there are pictures posted on this site.

Thanks for explaining that everything in the kit is on my website.

I'm going to update my website soon and will be including this picture of the kit:
[Linked Image]

Unfortunately, I will not be supplying prints and part numbers for this kit (that sells for $185.00 NOT $200.00 and includes 1-3 day shipping), because I'm shady.
So this may sound like quite a bit of money, but some people don't understand the cost of doing business. Things like buying a lathe, mig welder, drill press, precision jigs/fixtures, consumables, quality not crap parts, and yes... a small profit.
I have read that Day-Star is coming out with spacers for around $200.00, so I guess that $185.00 is quite high for a kit with a lot more stuff.
Hope to be shipping kits by mid-Feburary due to some health issues and back-ordered pieces.
Everet


EVERET@UPYOURKIA.COM





Interesting fact on the Daystar bringing a kit to market. A friend of mine posted on my Facebook mid summer last year of a story on a lifted Sportage and the person had Daystar make up the one off at the time and had mentioned that he was working with Daystar about getting it in to production.

I told my friend that apparently the guy didn't bother doing his homework as you had a kit that had been out for many years.
Posted By: Itsokay

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/12/16 05:43 AM

First time I've seen any pictures of any items that come in the kit you sell. Thanks for posting it. It lets people see what you're actually selling. Sorry for wanting to know what my money goes for. I just thought that's what you do before you hand a complete stranger money! Thanks again...

I ended up getting more information on another 4x4 website and forum with no resistance whatsoever and was able to get drawings and part #'s and have already made my front spacers....
Posted By: Itsokay

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/12/16 08:59 AM

I saw the posts in regards to what the kit had in it and looked for days to find pictures of the kit but unfortunately most of the older post I was able to open had been deleted. This site has too many pop up ads and extra garbage that slows this site down that even turning them off on my end didn't help. I asked a simple question to the guy everyone was leading me to and was told to basically buy his kit in order to find out the information I asked for. Come on people....! There are not 50,000 people building lifted Kia's that a guy can't give out helpful info!!! When I determine the correct size of the coil over shocks I will be using, I'll absolutely post all the necessary information to anyone who wants it with drawings and part numbers because it's honestly not that big of deal! Sorry... was not warned ahead of time of the thin skin of those using this site.
Posted By: Itsokay

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/12/16 09:08 AM

Have a nice day guys but next time pay attention to the actual question asked! Thanks for all the input. wink
Posted By: cairo627

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/29/16 04:57 PM

Hey guys, I've messaged/emailed Everet a few times regarding a lift kit. Is he not doing lifts anymore? if not can i find these used anywhere online? im still looking for the $185 range. thanks for any help you can give me smile I just purchased the vehicle for a fairly good price and would like to see her offroad abit haha
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 03/06/16 03:34 PM

cairo627,
I have been out of touch for a while do to some medical problems and surgery.
If you haven't received a response from me, please contact me and I will get back to you.

Sorry for the hassle.
Everet
Posted By: 530sportage

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/06/16 06:15 PM

Hey guys I'm still pretty new to this site but it has helped me tremendously with the infamous hesitation off idle but that's a different post. I purchased a 3 inch spacer kit about a yr ago from everett that has performed flawlessly in that time. The rear lift springs com from a jeep tj hard top. I've since upgraded to some 31x10.50x15 Kenda Klever mud tires mounted on a 15x 8 chrome mod. And am in the process of relocating the rear shocks to a Toyota style setup. My issue is I've reached the absolute max in suspension flex and CV livability at those extreme angles. I also have a welded rear spider gear in the works as well that I plan to use a high temp nickle rod to ensure proper penetration. Sorry about getting off subject but I thought a little background on the wheeling style I use. Its not a basher but I definitely push it through some things that definitely exceed the suspensions current capabilities. That being said what's the next logical direction? Do I continue trying to modify and strengthen the current drivetrain or do I toss the 286,000 mile setup for a complete Toyota setup from a rolled 82 Toyota truck. Once again sorry for the long speech. Any response will be appreciated. I'm also having a hard time loading pictures. I'll post asap.
Posted By: 4x4Wire

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/06/16 06:25 PM

There is one consideration to carefully review.

The larger the tires, the more weight. And, the extra weight does begin to take a toll on engines and transmissions.

The Kia does have a durable engine based on stock vehicle weight.

You are getting up in the milage range where it might be best to shift to the Toyota. More parts selection at a reasonable price and a proven engine.

Posted By: 530sportage

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 04/06/16 07:10 PM

That's about what I came up with. I'm also interested in the vortec 4.3 swap so look out for a sas'd sporty around the local Nor-Cal wheeling spots this summer. I plan to run some skinny 35s maybe a 35x10.50 bogger. Also looking for a 2 door sportage to build.
Posted By: Kiamad

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/18/16 01:17 AM

Im guessing this has been asked and answered before, but what size jeep lift corresponds to what size kia lift? Im looking into dobinson springs if that helps
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/18/16 12:22 PM

You don't use jeep LIFT springs for the rear, you use STOCK jeep springs.
Email me @ everet@upyourkia.com
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/18/16 01:58 PM

Hi Kia mad,

I used 35mm TJ SOFT TOP SPRINGS in my sporty.and that gave me approx 90 mm or 4 inch of lift if that helps. See my thread for photo reference. http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/1058030/1.html

Cheers, Chris
Posted By: Everet

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/19/16 01:45 AM

Thanks for helping out Chris!
Everet
Posted By: Kiamad

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/21/16 12:05 AM

Hi Chris

I see you used 50mm extended forks. Would a 50mm suspension spacer also work in this instance or would the drive axles interfere with the top of the fork? Also, where did you get your extended forks from may I ask? I see a post about parts from korea, any idea if they still have extended forks?

Cheers, Desmond

Ps. Love the build :-) I'm personally in the process of designing an ARB-like steel bumper for my sporty
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/21/16 07:17 AM

Hi Desmond,

Not sure on the spacers? Everet would be the best one to answer that question. I don't think you would need a 50 mm spacer. from my understanding I believe it has multiplying effect. 20 mm could result in a 40 mm lift etc. I could be wrong. I am sure Everet can let you know or read through the sticky thread at the top on lifting your sporty.

In a lot of threads guys have mentioned with 4 inch lift utilising spacers that they had issues with the a arm hitting the spring perch.

Try Picorp (Michael) picorp@hanmail.net from Korea. I understand they made another batch of extended forks. They also can source a few other bits as well including Difflocks and adjustable pan hard rod.

All depends on what you want to achieve. If you only want to lift 40 or 70mm you can get that lift of Spring through Dobinsons.

Keep us up to date. Your bull bar project sounds interesting.

cheers, Chris
Posted By: Kiamad

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/21/16 11:23 PM

Hi Chris
Cheers for the help, very much appreciated :-) I'll send Michael an email, and see what I can find out. Im attempting to gain as much lift as I can without a SAS conversion. My rig isn't road legal, so most of my work is not certified. As for the ARB-like bullbar, I'll keep you up to date, I've just gotta work out the strongest method of extended the chassis rails, as the front tubular crossmember is my biggest issue at the moment
Cheers, Desmond
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/22/16 02:39 PM

If you any to keep the independant front end then 4 inch suspension and 3 inch body lift is your max. Tyres up to a 32 but will require some mods on the rear of the front guards to prevent rubbing.

Cheers Chris
Posted By: dehelmer

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/28/16 08:02 PM

How big on tires bfore needing to re-gear?
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/29/16 01:16 AM

A lot of people are running in America are running 31's without regearing. Me personally, I believe 30's are the max before you need to regear.

I am running 245/75/R16's (almost a 31.). I remember driving it without the gears done. It was like like winding out a sports car with long gears (without the power).

It was surprisingly acceptable however Darwin is quite flat so I can't comment on what it would have been like in a hilly area although I imagine you would have been grabbing gears very quickly.

Having the gears done made it much more pleasurable to drive although it is still not as punchy as what it was with standard tyres on. I tow with my Sporty so needed the extra oomph. I hope when I install my extractors and larger exhaust it will bring me back to pre larger tyre and lift power wise which I would be more than happy to live with. hopefully I will gain some economy back as well, will replace the O2 sensor at the same time. Be nice to get 500km to a tank again instead of struggling to get 400-420.
Cheers, Chris
Posted By: 4x4Wire

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 05/29/16 04:43 AM

Tagging on to what Chris said, the re-gear is more dependent on terrain. For example, if you are relative flat, you can get by with a couple tire size increases before it becomes noticeable. Or, if you tow, you will notice a difference. WRT terrain, steep, think Rocky Mountain passes, you will have a problem. Or, if you are into sand running... US cars seem to come with small tires and you can bump up at least one tire size and retain close to stock performance. Much bigger and you begin to run into clearance issues. By then, re-gearing is highly recommended.
Posted By: promodmerc

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 08/12/16 06:26 PM

Just a word of caution regarding using Upyourkia 3" & 4" front lift if you plan on using new, front Moog springs.

The Moog springs have a higher spring rate than OEM KIA springs, and you will not be able to get the 1-1/2" or 2" spacers in if you use Moog springs.

If you are dead set on using new Moog springs Evert will need to make you 1" spacers.

When I ran into my issue at the end of May, I talked to Evert on the phone and I was the second person that had the problem with the 2" spacers with new Moog springs.

Evert was kind enough to make me 1" aluminum spacers, and all I had to do was send him the 2" spacers in return. cool
Posted By: eknomf

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/07/16 06:19 AM

I just picked up a Sporty and am trying to figure out the best way to lift/build it. It is a 2001 5spd and will be a budget build. A few questions on lifting:
-What 16" rims fit these well? I have read on here grand vitara. Any specific year? I am having trouble finding backspacing info.
-I am debating installing a lift versus lots of cutting. Buying a lift would double my investment into this beast, which I am not sure I want to do. Will 31.5s fit with no lift and some cutting?
-Has anyone tried welding the front diff with bigger tires? Will I break the driveline?

Thanks! Will post some pics once I start.
Posted By: 4x4Wire

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/07/16 06:39 AM

I am not a Kia expert. But, I caution against immediately cutting the body to achieve clearance.

A basic lift is dome with springs. Okay, you can add spacer blocks. But, where you add the spacer can mean a lot.

Welding the front diff... that brings up the Lincoln Locker discussion.

As a matter of disclosure, I have driven a fair number of miles in a Jeeper with a welded rear end.

That said, you would be foolish to weld the front diff. Basically, that is your steering component and welding will induce steering ability in standard (non-OHV) driving.

There is a discussion thread dealing with the various TJ springs than can be adapted to fit a Kia.
Posted By: eknomf

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/07/16 07:29 AM

Thanks for the comments John. I have lifted a few ifs and solid axle vehicles before and decided I want to keep the suspension on this one near stock for now so I can drive it harder without breaking things. I have a set of 30s and 31.5s available and am trying to decide what can fit without lifting. I would like the clearance of the bigger tires, but they are much heavier so I worry about over stressing the front end.

Not committed to welding the front; just wondering if these trucks are strong enough to handle it. If I need to turn, I can always just unlock one hub... This one was super cheap and is beat up, so not too concerned about hacking it up a bit.

It will be 99% off pavement, so I don't need to retain road manners.
Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/07/16 10:28 PM

Suzuki Grand Vitara &XL7. 97-04.

Offset ET 5mm positive.

I think you would want to run the steelies if you are. To to interested in aesthetics although they still look good on the sportage . I personally think the dual spoke alloys from the XL7 look the best.

I have a set of dual spoke alloys from the XL-7 on my sporty and am running 245/75 R16's

Hope that helps.

Cheers, Chris
Posted By: eknomf

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 11/26/16 08:03 PM

I ended up putting a spare set of 30x9.5 geolanders on the stock rims. Didnt go with the 31.5s as the set I have are e rated and too heavy. With the 30s it works great with no lift. Also took off most of the plastic (on trees..) and clearanced the bumper with a zip disc for a better approach angle. To be honest I did not expect much out of this kia compared to other 4x4s I have owned, but it is an impressive little machine!

Now I need to sort out a few of the issues inherent in a $600 car, like the door chime stuck on and the gas tank that shoots gas back out at me when filling.

Maybe the wrong place for this, but...
-Anyone done a full belly skid on one? It looks doable, and i found some old threads with links to skidplate dimensions, but the links are down.
Posted By: ratrod16

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/29/16 01:54 AM

I am trying to lift my 99 shortage 3" front and back. How many do I need and how much?
Posted By: 4x4Wire

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/29/16 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by ratrod16
I am trying to lift my 99 shortage 3" front and back. How many do I need and how much?


Okay, I'll break the ice and grab onto this slow pitch...

How many of what???

Okay, your goal is 3" of lift front and back. Generallly it is done with four appropriate size springs to replace the stock springs. I am not a Kia expert. But, there are posts in the archives where Jeep Rubicon springs have been used on the Sportsge.

In addition, there are some coil spring spacers that can add to your lift. Generally they start at 1" and are in one inch increments.

See: http://upyourkia.com/

He does 3 and 4 inch lifts and has been a past contributor to the forums.

Posted By: 4runnernomore

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 12/29/16 09:46 PM

Rat rod,

Read the first post in this thread. It tells you what you need straight up to achieve lifts from 2-4 inch.

Also Dobinsons springs in Australia make a 3 inch Spring front and rear for the Kia Sportage.

This forum will just about have all the answers for your questions. It is a very good resource.

All the best with it.

Cheers, Chris
Posted By: tamrin

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/01/17 05:10 AM

Hi All, Happy new Year

I'm looking the fast respond to confirm about the maximum suspension lift, as I got some information's that 4" still safe and will be ok for 31 10.5 15 tire
My KIa is Short 2000

Please advise - Thanks
Posted By: 4x4Wire

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/01/17 08:28 AM

I have to ask, have you read through the entire thread of posts? Specifically beginning with the first post?

What is provided in the thread, beginning with the first post, is information that defines amount of lift required for specific tire fitment and Year of vehicle.

These specs are provided as guidance based on user reported experiences.

Posted By: Itsokay

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 01/04/17 02:22 PM

1st - Happy New year to everyone. I hope this year allows for many more off road adventures for all of us...

2nd - As I also am a newbie to forums and starting online discussions, I think it is worth mentioning that not everyone who uses this site or new to this site will know the proper method of locating information initially. I found it very tedious and time consuming my first try because of the amount of data and threads that were on here regarding my inquiry. Be patient with us new people right out of the gate. This is a really cool tool for everyone to use but does take some getting use to using for non-techy people such as myself.

3rd - HOW BOUT' THEM COWBOYS!!!!!!!

LOL!

Sorry.....
Posted By: Coy77

Re: Lifting a kia sportage? Look here first! Also tire size recommendations. - 02/02/17 03:35 PM

Does anyone have a SOHC 2.0 Sportage? If so whattires sizes are you running?
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