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AUTO LOCKER

Posted By: Adskia

AUTO LOCKER - 12/20/08 11:12 PM

well........you wouldnt believe it........ have a mate that works at a gear company here in australia......... have been having a good chat to him and in the new year.... he is going to make a auto-locker for the front diff in my truck........ it will be based on the LOCK_RIGHT style of self locking ones and will be able to be fitted into the orginal housing....... the cost will be 1/10th of the other stuff we can supposedly can but cant get........SO.... my question goes out to you guys that are stuggling for traction...... we will see how mine goes ......... who then after that who would like one..... remember it is only for the front at the moment.......the rear will come later......

Cheers Ads
Posted By: k120189

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 12/21/08 01:30 AM

the right question to ask is not who wants one but who can afford to get one shipped from aus. i would love a lock-right style locker in my front end but i dont think i could ever afford the price to get one shipped
Posted By: DEFBOY35

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 12/21/08 04:19 AM

shipping from australia should not be too bad for a package that small. the weight of it should not be that extreme either i would imagine.

glad to see that this may be a possibility for everyone. a little late for me as the stock axles are soon going!
Posted By: DamKia

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 12/21/08 03:56 PM

Agree with the cost. They are less than 3lb in weight. I have the rear autolocker sitting on my bench but have not had time to fit it.

One other possibility is using a Suzuki 26 spline autolocker, although I am not sure about the sidegear shaft diameter vs. what ours is and how that would affect its operation. May need to make special thrust bearing shims for each end, but in all it is something worth looking into if you have a front diff out at any stage.

Ads, I'll put my hand up for one...
Posted By: logansportage

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 12/22/08 06:50 PM

Like all others, I'm very interested. But it all depends on cost and shipping charges to get it state side.

If we can get a list of people who will pony up the money we can put in a bulk order. Then all share in the shipping costs to get it state side. We would need to get a representative to collect the money, place the order, and then ship to the respective parties once it hits state side.

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Posted By: DennisThompson

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 12/23/08 02:14 AM

I am interested if the price is right. Shipping should not be bad, I shipped a few spacers lifts to Australia and it was very reasonable. Money will be tight since I have to rebuild my engine. Let us know.

Dennis
Posted By: Adskia

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 12/25/08 01:44 PM

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Agree with the cost. They are less than 3lb in weight. I have the rear autolocker sitting on my bench but have not had time to fit it.

One other possibility is using a Suzuki 26 spline autolocker, although I am not sure about the sidegear shaft diameter vs. what ours is and how that would affect its operation. May need to make special thrust bearing shims for each end, but in all it is something worth looking into if you have a front diff out at any stage.

Ads, I'll put my hand up for one...


well........damkia... its good you say that as i need to get my hands on a sample autolocker so i can have the metal tested for its hardness...... so if you are willing to help out mate..... as i can get this started in the new year.......also.......i have harrop engineering interested in reasearching there elocker fitment into the sportage diffs........... i can supply them with a couple of "broken " diffs.... in the new year..... dont get me wrong guys and gals....... there has been a shiteload of "yeah there is a locker" and "yes we can do that"
am 100% committed to getting these happening....as i DO NOT want to break anymore diffs.......it will be happening........ as for price on the auto lock-right style lockers....... i cant see them being anymore than 300-350AU$ plus shipping...for the stars and stripe boys and girls , i think that puts it just under the 200$ mark...if that helps.....will be in contact ......cheers Ads
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Posted By: Adskia

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 12/25/08 01:53 PM

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Like all others, I'm very interested. But it all depends on cost and shipping charges to get it state side.

If we can get a list of people who will pony up the money we can put in a bulk order. Then all share in the shipping costs to get it state side. We would need to get a representative to collect the money, place the order, and then ship to the respective parties once it hits state side.

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not a bad idea mate......... so you know .....its me that will be doin the ordering thru a good mate who works at a gear company....... who is prepared to do testing of metals etc..... so they are bullet proof....... i dont think a bulk buy would make them any cheaper..... but it would save a bit on postage......... just a thought...... will do mine as the ginipig first and will start to sort somthing out after that........ about mid january i think......
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Posted By: jaboo5322

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 12/25/08 02:36 PM

Ok. You've peeked my interest. Your time table puts this close to right after income tax. And for the projected price, i don't think i can aford not to put some money back for that project. Thanks.
Posted By: DamKia

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 12/25/08 04:10 PM

Currently up in Townsville. I'll look into having the metals tested up here If you like...(given the "hens teeth" nature of the item, this would be my preference)

Other than that I may send the unit complete to you, and may relieve you of one of the first prototypes.

Another option may be to pick up an old lockright from the papers or www.outerlimits.com a little closer to home and test them...pretty sure the only thing that would really change would be size and spline counts, metals would be the same.

I would still look at the possibility of basing the unit on the Zook 26 spline with minor machining differences to the two center parts (with the "v" notches) No point reinventing the wheel if all it takes is 10 mins in a mill.

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Posted By: Adskia

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 12/25/08 11:41 PM

thats the idea damkia....... i need a sample locker unit so as to test for the hardness(rockwell) measurement...then its a case of machining up a set to actually fit our housing........ like you said no point reinventing the wheel....... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Sportage

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 12/27/08 01:52 PM

I'll start putting money in my money box!!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: race4fn

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 12/28/08 05:56 AM

You can sighn me up for a locker!
Posted By: Adskia

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 12/28/08 07:26 AM

awesome guys, i am thinking of doing a few test ones .......... have to wait and see after new year.....
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Posted By: logansportage

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 01/05/09 10:36 PM

A bulk order would not save much on the cost of the item, but it would cut costs on shipping each unit individually over seas. This would help us state side people save some money.

Less shipping costs means a greater chance to get enough orders together to help get the units state side.

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Posted By: Adskia

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 02/11/09 07:53 AM

heads up........... have given my mate the related stuff for him to start buiding these autolockers........ will be done in 2 weeks......
Posted By: logansportage

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 02/11/09 06:18 PM

How are these lockers going to differ from the TF locker?

We need to make sure we get ones made for the front that are 26 spline and the rear that are both 26 spline and 28 spline.

97 and older Sportages state side have 26 spline rears and 26 spline fronts.

98 - 02 Sportages state side have 28 spline rears, but still have 26 spline fronts.

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Posted By: Adskia

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 02/12/09 09:42 AM

all taken care of mate....... i have a 28 rear and a mate of mine has a 26 spline rear and have given my other mate both..... google 'lock right diff locker" and that is what it will be......... havent seen a tf locker.....
Posted By: k120189

Re: AUTO LOCKER - 02/12/09 06:24 PM

trackfinder lockers are just like the autolocker style diff you are building

i wonder which would be cheaper and which would be easier to ship

by the way the trackfinder locker has a very well translated manual
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