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2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM

Posted By: NeoXOM

2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/05/09 03:15 PM

This is my lifted kia.
Rear TJ springs & IRONMAN KIA001B front
Also have 3 inches body lift.
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Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/05/09 03:17 PM

have to add that now i'm running 32x11.5r15 maxxis mudders.
If you look carefully I made some cuts to have thos big meats on my sporty, the wheels are from Daihatsu Rocky.
Regarding loosing power I dont mind it because my diesel engige died and engine swap has been performed to have a 2.8 V6 GM engine.
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/05/09 03:24 PM

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What kind of brush guard is that?
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/05/09 03:25 PM

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Regarding loosing power I dont mind it because my diesel engige died and engine swap has been performed to have a 2.8 V6 GM engine.

Do you have pics of the V6 engine swap and what mods did you have to do to get it to work? [/quote]
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/05/09 03:25 PM

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I think that my Chevy Blazer (85)s-10 had the 2.8 v-6.....Lots of power----Potential for true dual exhaust here <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

How much weight are we adding with the v-6 setup??

Nice job on the body lift I see...Where did you get it from/how was it done??

Good Job and keep on smilin' <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/05/09 03:26 PM

well replying all questions, yest it's the same s10 engine, mine came from a cherokee, some GM cars shared same engine, mine it's a carburated one but think that injected are better.

Rear fare felt down I'm trying to find the replacement.

Extra weight.... Don't know exaxtly but feal the sport more stable, don't know if is the new IRONMAN coils or have more weight.

the work: well i maintained same OEM radiator, all drivetrain inclusive the same transmission, just cut the bell housing and welded the GM one, also flywheel had to be modified.

To allign the fan with the radiator, had to put a 3 inches bodylift, I made it from metar pipes with roud metal stops using the rubber bushing original placed between chasis & cabin, the bolts has been changed completelly for a 7 inches due to original bolts are wedded to chasis making all difficult.

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Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/05/09 03:27 PM

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what size wheels are you running under your Sporty, Brand, diameter, width, Backspace? This is always one of my favorite questions.


15x7.5 if I'm not wrong, back spacing I owe you that, have to take the measurements but are the OEM daihatsu Rocky ones

But I'm happy with the 32x11.5, the car is pretty stable.

with that lift (6 inches combining suspension & bl) easylly can run 34x9 MT's
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/05/09 03:27 PM

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So, Sorry for sounding stupid. You mated a chevy 4.3, which is my favorite small motor, I should'nt say small, since it is actually allmost a smallblock. to the drivtrain of a sportage? Yes i guess that waa a question. I swear, the first sign of that happening, i will go find one in the yard. Do tell.
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/05/09 03:28 PM

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More questions!! Is your rig auto or manual trans? Did you have to sacrifice the A/C? How difficult were the mods?
My rig has 268,000 miles on it and may soon need either a rebuild or modified replacement. I like the idea of a V6 conversion if I don't have to alter the rig too much.
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/05/09 03:29 PM

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So, Sorry for sounding stupid. You mated a chevy 4.3, which is my favorite small motor, I should'nt say small, since it is actually allmost a smallblock. to the drivtrain of a sportage? Yes i guess that waa a question. I swear, the first sign of that happening, i will go find one in the yard. Do tell.

It's a 2.8, not a vortec 4.3, it could be better, if I'm not wrong even smaller in size, but don't think that my sporty manual transmition can't handle all that power without dying.

mine ispassing all the power from engine direct and off roading have to put the car on 4L 1st gear, if i put 2nd sporty will start running, the 4.3 it's my dream but had to change also the transmission & transfer to have more reduction and avoid to use the brake to contron the car.

I think that moderator should move all last post about the engine and discuss the same in other thread to debate about pros & cons and other possible engine swaps to not corrupt this topic <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/05/09 03:29 PM

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All what power those 2.8's are junk especially the carburated ones. Do what you will but thats a poor power train swap should of used a 4.3L.
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/05/09 03:30 PM

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I'm agree that best option is the 4.3L but remember that the sporty is not does not have heavy weight components to receive all that power without hurts, in my case i had a diesel engine and components like R&P transmissions, etc are differents and works on a different ratio than the gas ones, 4.3 means change all drive train, 2.8 I maintained my Kia transmission, transfer, etc
It's not the same Modify an Sporty than buy a Blazer K5 and put the Sporty cabin on top.

Cost for my Swap was arround 2.5k including labor, suspention and parts.

4.3 would be more expensive for me.

When I was looking for an engine, one friend was selling me a 258 engine, reason why i didn't took it, because had to change transmission (t18), transfer (dana 20), cut the front of the car, more body lift, in order to re-locate the radiator and all those bigger components adding to much weight, incluseive change the diferentials to danas, front dif is an aluminum one IFS, not too heavy, rear one an handle more stress.

This is my daily drive and my super modify rig is a 79 CJ7.

Agree that next step will be take off the IFS and replace doth dif with danas 4.56 R&P actual ratio on the OEM ones that I have & mabe a biger engine, at this moment I'm planing to put them Buick aluminium heads, overhaul that engine with oversized pistons and instal it a Turbo...

After that will definetly fly, but it's a long term project
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/05/09 03:30 PM

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Should of at least went with a 3.4 fuel injected and still uses the same bell housing as the 2.8.
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/05/09 03:32 PM

tha's is other option that I'm considering a 3.* fuel injected.

Do you know specifically on which vehiceles came???
Posted By: DEFBOY35

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/06/09 04:24 AM

just looking at your front suspension picture, you could swap out the stock top hat for the strut assembly for a custom one that would possibly give a little more height out of the spring, but definitely allow for more travel.
Posted By: DamKia

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/06/09 05:37 AM

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just looking at your front suspension picture, you could swap out the stock top hat for the strut assembly for a custom one that would possibly give a little more height out of the spring, but definitely allow for more travel.


I'm guessing all you would gain would be up travel, putting your driveline at risk from damage. Down travel is limited by our old bogey, the "saddle" to axle clearance at full droop.

The overall trick with the suspension is not overall height at either end, but matched "spring rates" so that the front runs out of travel as the rear does (compression and droop), irrespective of how much absolute travel that is. This keeps the CoG as close to central as possible, minimizing "lurching" (sudden shifts in CoG) at the ends of the suspension travel.
Posted By: minydigger

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/06/09 03:55 PM

* 1991-1994 Chevrolet Lumina Z34 and the Euro 3.4 sedan
* 1991-1996 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
* 1991-1996 Pontiac Grand Prix
* 1995-1997 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Z34
* 1995-1997 Chevrolet Lumina LS
* 1997 Chevrolet Lumina LTZ
Here's a few also came in a factory turbo and supercharged
Posted By: DEFBOY35

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/06/09 07:36 PM

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* 1991-1994 Chevrolet Lumina Z34 and the Euro 3.4 sedan
* 1991-1996 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
* 1991-1996 Pontiac Grand Prix
* 1995-1997 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Z34
* 1995-1997 Chevrolet Lumina LS
* 1997 Chevrolet Lumina LTZ
Here's a few also came in a factory turbo and supercharged


i wouldnt go with the lumina 3400 dohc motor, they are known to be troublesome.

the sohc 3400's out of the later years were strong motors.

i have thought about swapping in the 3.1 out of my car since i wrote it off, but need to figure out if the coolant routing will work in a rwd application, a problem to be overcome by any of the transverse mounted 60 degree v-6s listed above. the next possible obstacle to overcome would be the upper intakes pointing back towards the firewall for the intakes.
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/09/09 12:07 AM

well partially right, at this moment don't have all height that springs give because I still have the stock shocks limiting the suspension.
the reason os because I will put some spacer to compensate the loosing when Customized bumpers will be instales + the winch and will need larger shocks and dont' want double work.

after changing the shocks will have more height/flex.
Posted By: DamKia

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/09/09 11:41 AM

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well partially right, at this moment don't have all height that springs give because I still have the stock shocks limiting the suspension.
the reason os because I will put some spacer to compensate the loosing when Customized bumpers will be instales + the winch and will need larger shocks and dont' want double work.

after changing the shocks will have more height/flex.


You will break your inner and outer front driveshaft CV joints if you stretch them too much. A case of more is not necessarily better.

You ARE limited in how much flex you can get from the front suspension angles.

If you want to get more travel, then get custom fabricated some longer upper and lower wishbones and leave the original distance between the lower inner wishbone chassis mount and the point at which our "saddle" now bolts to ("<" to "||"), extending the distance from the saddle point to the steering knuckle ball joint (from "||" to "X", to "||" to ">")
ie. Lower wishbone.

chassis...............old.......new
<----------||-----X-------->
............Saddle

(I hope you understand the diagram)

New halfshaft axles will also be needed, as will heavier springs and mods to the steering (lengthened TRE's).

More work, but a better result.
Posted By: jays2001

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 12/11/09 01:46 AM

early 4th gen camaros had3.4 engines also and they are all over junkyards and on road cheap buy take 3.4 out for kia then put the v8 in camaro kill two birds with one stone. i miss my camaro <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 01/22/10 11:57 PM

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* 1991-1994 Chevrolet Lumina Z34 and the Euro 3.4 sedan
* 1991-1996 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
* 1991-1996 Pontiac Grand Prix
* 1995-1997 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Z34
* 1995-1997 Chevrolet Lumina LS
* 1997 Chevrolet Lumina LTZ
Here's a few also came in a factory turbo and supercharged


i wouldnt go with the lumina 3400 dohc motor, they are known to be troublesome.

the sohc 3400's out of the later years were strong motors.

i have thought about swapping in the 3.1 out of my car since i wrote it off, but need to figure out if the coolant routing will work in a rwd application, a problem to be overcome by any of the transverse mounted 60 degree v-6s listed above. the next possible obstacle to overcome would be the upper intakes pointing back towards the firewall for the intakes.


I tried to find those 3.4 but unable to find them here in Panama, most of our GM came frm MEX.

I got an 3.1 FI Multiport from an Oldsmobile Cutlas and will install it.

The only problem that has been found is the upper intake but will figure out when will instal it, options (cut firewall or move the transmission and all other components)

Will create bases for the engine due to locations are not similar to the 2.8.

as soon will start the instalation will post pictures.
Posted By: NeoXOM

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 02/20/10 04:00 AM

upgrades just start and these are the pictures of the progress:
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This is the space between engine and radiator
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This is the space between firewall and the air intake
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Here is the space for the air compresor of the 3.1 hit the steering box, have to check how to re-locate it because the original kia and the 2.8 have it at the other side
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here is the engine just put, no engine bases yet...
engine and transmission had to be pulled up feu inches, that is the space that the wood is ocupying right now:
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Posted By: 69442

Re: 2001 Sporty engine swap 2.8 V6 GM - 02/20/10 05:20 AM

Those pics hurt my eyes like putting on my grandmothers coke bottle glasses <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />
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