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Oyaji's '87 FJ60

Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 05/08/10 06:44 AM

Here's the rig I picked up today. Hopefully this one won't have any of the baggage/drama that the last couple that I've taken on have had. Not a hint of anything other than a tiny bit of surface rust. Not a drip of oil coming out of the 135k 2F engine. New clutch, and the thing drives GREAT! I'm excited...

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I owe a huge thanks to Grasscat (of the Mitsu Forum) for taking me all the way from the Bay Area to Kernsville to pick this up. Michael, you are truly a friend!
Posted By: 52degrees

Re: New To Me 1987 FJ60 - 05/08/10 05:00 PM

That body style is one of my favorite FJ bodies.

Oh, wait... I like pretty much all of them (except for the new mall Cruisers <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" />).

Nice ride! Time for some tires? Are suspension lifts available?
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 05/08/10 05:28 PM

Yep, aftermarket/OEM support is everywhere for this one. I'll get a set of OME lift springs in the not-so-distant future and probably run 33" tires with rocker protection.

It ran a little hot coming home last night, so my first order of business is to find out how reliable the OEM gauges are and probably get the radiator rodded out. It's got 135k, but it's still 23 years old.
Posted By: Adam F

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 05/09/10 01:13 AM

YES! I love it! Round headlights rock!

I'd like to have one with a 1uzfe Lexus V8 swap!
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 05/09/10 08:17 AM

Haha, thanks Adam. Yes, I'd like to have one with that swap, too! People want an arm and a leg when those engines are available, though, so we'll see. I've read a lot about Cummins swaps in these, so I'll have to weigh my options when the time comes.

My wife has been very cool about my "mid life crisis" rig orgy, but I don't think she'll remain that way for too much longer. This one will have to be what I stick with, so I'm looking to make the best of it. She told me tonight that I need to take my time refining it, and I agree. I have a whole bunch of stuff in the garage that's been waiting for the right rig, and it's here, so I'll start with installing the CB radio, aftermarket stereo/speakers, high-lift mount, GPS and CO2 tank. From there, it'll get rock sliders and 4" OME lift. Once I sell the D44s, and associated equipment, that I have sitting around, I'll get an FJ80 rear axle with disk brakes and the proper ARB locker. I still need to rebuild the Warn 8274 that I have on the shelf...

I'm trying to take it easy, but we'll see what happens. There are forces driving me to make the Sierra Carnage pre-run that is coming up in a couple of months.

Thanks for posting!
Posted By: Adam F

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 05/11/10 02:20 AM

Sounds good!

Around here, a cummins 4 or 6cy is 3000-4000 where a 1UZ is 1000 or less.
Posted By: justice

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 05/11/10 09:09 PM

Congrats on the new rig Jon. Cant wait to wheel with you in in it! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Thats my favorite cruiser. I wanted one back in 92 but the price was still too steep for me back then on Cpl's Pay. That will make an excellent adventure rig...
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 05/11/10 11:35 PM

Thanks, J. The drama continues, however, and I'm sick to my stomach. I bought this rig 4 days ago, and obviously spent too much. I noticed it was getting hot at the end of the drive home, and today pulled the dipstick to find runny "milk" coming off of it. I can't win for losing with these freaking things! I've got to get the head off of this 135k original mile paperweight, boat anchor, or whatever you want to call it. I'm tired of this crap...
Posted By: kewlynx

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 05/13/10 03:45 AM

Damn. Pop by NAPA and get their coolant test for exhaust to verify, or get a leakdown done before you tear into that thing.

FWIW, these guys have been quite helpful to me in the past while working on my friend's FJ60:

http://www.fjparts.com/toyota-manual-c-33.html

Ya might as well toggle these for your thread faves:

FJ60 2F water pump

FJ60 thermostat swap
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 05/15/10 04:22 AM

Thanks for the links Margie. Those will prove helpful as I'm doing a complete cooling system overhaul while I save my pennies for an H55F and eventual V8 swap (thanks for the pointer on the UZF Adam).

I posted a question in O/T about a leak down test hoping to pull in some of the tech guys from the other sections. I bought the tester but don't know how to use it yet, and I find conflicting procedures when I google the test.

Thanks...
Posted By: kewlynx

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 05/17/10 07:29 AM

A simple compression test is also okay; 2 low digits in adjacent cylinders points to a head gasket. A coolant exhaust test is the next non-invasive test (kit available at NAPA); leakdown is da low-down.

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I see you're getting some decent input over in OT.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 05/29/10 01:28 AM

Thanks for the info Margie. Onward and upward.

One thermostat housing bolt broke off in the front of the head. I finally got the manifolds broken loose, valve cover off, rocker assy off and pushrods out. The valve cover had "vaseline" all in the top of it, so this work was absolutely necessary. When removing the head bolts, the exhaust side ones were all VERY hard to break loose, and one of the head bolts broke off in the block. When I took the radiator/fan out the other day, I found sludge all over the front of the engine. After talking to a local Cruiser head, it looks as if the engine was steam cleaned prior to sale, and the front sludge is what couldn't be gotten to.

I will NOT pour money into this engine. Just a head is acceptable, but when I pull the block (necessary to get the broken head bolt out), it won't be going back in. I'll be picking up a sub 100k early Vortec engine and putting it in. This may turn out to be more money than fixing the 2F, but at least my "bang for the buck" will be measurable in positive values.

This is absolutely the LAST thing I wanted to do when I purchased this rig, but it is what it is. I'll post pictures of the damage once I get the head off the block.
Posted By: Adam F

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 05/30/10 03:42 AM

That sucks to hear.

But a Vortec engine is great. Are you talking Vortec 5.7? Or 5.3/6.0? The 5.7 is great, but the 5.3 and 6.0 are even better.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 05/30/10 08:52 AM

I really would like to run a 5.3 or 6.0, but the one mounted to a manual transmission from the factory is a unicorn. I need a VIN for a truck with that combination to give the computer programmer, or the truck won't smog at the referee station. I could just register it in OR using my military privileges, but that won't help me if I fail to convince my wife that Kali is not where she wants to buy a house before I retire from the Navy.

I'm looking at the 96-99 5.7 Vortec. The TBI 5.7 is easiest, but the Vortec has quite a bit more power with better economy (yes, 99+ versions are best).

Regardless of the engine I choose, the Aussie made Mark's adapter kit sold by AA will make this a straight forward and somewhat painless swap (the smog part is NEVER fun).

EDIT: I just want to add that there is the added expense of a $350 Camaro oil pan set up that has to be run on the 99+ engines to clear the front diff since the truck pan hangs too low. The 5.7 engines don't have this issue.
Posted By: Adam F

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 05/30/10 04:25 PM

Well...you could just run vortec heads on an old school 1st gen 5.7L block.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Head/Gasket/Block Pics - 05/31/10 06:58 AM

I'm trying to find a good deal on the 95-99 Vortec with all the smog stuff attached. I should be able to get one for under $1000. We'll see.

Today, I got the head off. I don't see any immediate signs of head/gasket failure. I just don't know...

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Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Interior Work - 05/31/10 07:13 AM

Once I got the head off, I couldn't do much else without making a big decision to take the plunge and pull the rest of the original engine out, so I decided to do some "fun" stuff. I had a set of Hunsaker seats and a Grant steering wheel, so I got busy putting them in.

I have very long legs for a 6' guy. I wasn't comfortable with the seats at the stock height, so I had some custom 2" brackets bent up at my favorite metal shop. I had some flat bar cut down and drilled as spacers so the factory sliders could work properly, and bolted everything to the factory mounting holes. I LOVE these seats and the revised seating position.

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As for the steering wheel, I noticed that there was a good layer of crap on the original wheel while driving it home on the day I bought it. I wasn't to happy about grabbing on that all the time, and with the higher seat height, the original one was really close to my legs. I grabbed the Grant wheel off the shelf in my garage and put it in the Cruiser. I have GREAT gauge visibility with my seat height and think this will be a very comfortable driving configuration. I'm sure it may be a little tough to turn at a standstill once I put 33s on, but it'll be ok.

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I purchased a Tuffy stereo security console from my local parts house and worked on getting it into position but ran out of time. I'll post pics of it in place once I get it in there. I will say that the top pad is at the perfect height for my arm to rest on and be ready to shift. I'm VERY happy with these upgrades as a whole.
Posted By: Adam F

Re: Head/Gasket/Block Pics - 06/02/10 05:26 PM

You should be able to get a vortec for that money. Around here I can get one for 600-800.

Is it just me, or are those cylinder holes in the head gasket ovalized very bad? Or did you bend the gasket in half after took it out?
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Head/Gasket/Block Pics - 06/02/10 06:11 PM

You know, Adam, I thought the shape was wierd, too. But, since they are ALL that way, I thought that it was a design thing? I didn't bend it.

EDIT: Looking at the combustion chambers on the head, the holes are supposed to be shaped that way.

I placed my order for a 96-00 Vortec. $1250 including EVERYTHING remotely attached to the engine except the transmission with 90k or so on the clock. Not the GREATEST deal, but it is what it is. The dismantler is reputable and offers a warranty on the engine. It should be delivered to the shop that will burn in the mounts on Thursday or Friday.
Posted By: kewlynx

Re: Head/Gasket/Block Pics - 06/03/10 04:11 AM

Wasn't just you Adam, I was thinking they were a little egged out too.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Head/Gasket/Block Pics - 06/05/10 04:30 AM

My 5.7L Vortec was delivered today. It came out of a '99 Suburban with 103k. A little grime here and there, but a good douse of Simple Green and a pressure washer should clean it right up. I plan to change the rear main seal, front crank seal and water pump. Then she'll get adapted to the Toy trans and motor mounts welded in. I'll get a Howell harness, an aluminum radiator and custom shroud, and this thing should be on the road.

I removed the 30 lbs of factory engine harness today, and cleaning should start early next week. I want to pull the remaining parts of the 2 and transport the FJ to the shop by Wednesday. We'll see how that goes, but in the meantime, I'm waiting for AA to send the Mark's SBC to Toy adapter kit and my Centerforce clutch and pressure plate. Things are coming together, and my goal is a running/driving truck by the end of the month.
Posted By: Adam F

Re: Head/Gasket/Block Pics - 06/06/10 03:29 AM

Sweet. You'll love the 350. Low end power is soooo nice.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

2F Out and Engine Bay Pics - 06/11/10 07:51 AM

FINALLY, a little progress. I got the 2F out of the way today. The engine bay is pretty clean for an 87, but I'm going to get the unnecessary wiring stripped out and steam clean it and the undercarriage. It looks like the t-case will have to be split so the tail housing can be machined for a custom reluctor ring that needs to be added so the Vortec emissions system will function properly. Since the transmission is coming out, I'm thinking heavily about taking the plunge and adding an H55 gear box to the build. $2000, but WELL worth it for a 5 speed, I think. Thoughts?

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Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

5.7 Vortec Pics - 06/12/10 12:01 AM

In with the "new"...

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Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: 5.7 Vortec Pics - 06/26/10 08:06 PM

Well, over the last two days, a lot of work got done. Custom Cruisers, in Gilroy, is handling my fab work since I can't weld worth a flip. I wanted to use the stock Suburban exhaust manifolds for smog reasons, and this required mounting the engine 1/2" to the driver's side. Ron and John machined my transmission crossmember elongating the holes to shift the trans to driver by 1/2". A 1/2" (I think) spacer was made to move the P.S. pump to the outboard side to accommodate the engine. It was quite a bit of work, but it looks as if it will work well.

After the engine came back out, I replaced a bunch of parts for piece of mind on a 100k engine. I should start wiring and installing the OME lift early next week.

Moving right along...hopefully, I'll be driving it when I go to San Diego next month.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

5.7 Vortec Installation (with pics) - 06/29/10 08:10 AM

Today, I got to the shop early and got some work done. John put the flywheel on while I cleaned up the bellhousing and got some odds and ends going. Once the adapter, clutch and bellhousing was bolted up, we took a little time to check the engine bay one more time.

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Here is the engine with all of it's necessary accessories

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And with the Howell harness attached

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And bolted in

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We pulled the transmission out to put in a twin stick kit in. Yeah for 2 Low!

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The last thing that came in today was the heavy OME kit to clear the 33s that I traded a D44 for.

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Ron and John will get the transmission installed tomorrow while I'm off taking care of thesis stuff, and I hope to get the wiring harness routed and computer mounted on Thursday. My custom radiator will be here Thursday, as well, so hopefully, the cooling system will be finished up this week. On Friday, I plan to install the OME kit and get the rig out for exhaust. There is still a lot to do, but I'm plugging right along and hope to have this rig back on the road in the not-so-distant future.
Posted By: Adam F

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 06/29/10 11:09 PM

Good progress.

What trans did you end up going with? I'm trying to figure out your trans adapter setup. Looks like a stock bellhousing goes to the adapter, then the adapter goes to the motor. On my setup, the adapter replaces the stock bellhousing.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 06/30/10 12:33 AM

Hi Adam,

Thanks for the comment. I decided to go with a Mark's adapter from Advance Adapters. The adapter allows everything aft of the adapter to stay in its original position. I'm keep the stock H41 4 speed transmisson. I'll drive it for a while until I recover some of my savings and can get an H55 5 speed.

I got word that the transmission/tcase are back in, and I'll be able to start wiring tomorrow. There's still lots of work to do. In the end, this will have been a very expensive thing to do, but it will be better than anything that I could have purchased for the same relative amount of money. I sure don't like the newer offerings that the automakers have out there for twice as much.

I'm not including too much in terms of product descriptions as that will be part of my virgin tech article and true contribution to the wire.
Posted By: Adam F

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 06/30/10 02:17 AM

Nice. Looking forward to that write up.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 07/02/10 06:18 AM

Yesterday:
I went by the shop to see what Ron and John got done. The engine was in and hoist was away.

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Here are a few shots of the clearance within the bay. The rear has LOTS of room with great access to normally hard to reach items for maintenance. The front is set up PERFECTLY for the custom radiator and shroud that Ron is making. The driver's side is the only potential tight spot with the exhaust clearance very tight. Ron assures me, however, that his exhaust guy has a lot of experience overcoming these issues.

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Next are a couple of pics of the twin stick kit installed. The shifters still need to be formed, installed and welded, but the kit is pretty cool.

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Pictures of the transmission modifications

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This last pic is a radiator similar to the one that will be built for mine. The one in the picture is for an FJ40, and mine will be 3" wider to maximize surface area in the available space.

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Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 07/02/10 06:29 AM

Today:

I started the day by pulling the power steering pump from the 5.7 to install a more appropriate power valve for my application. After reinstalling it, I sorted through wiring, got an idea for how I want to lay out the loom and took out the Toyota A/C stuff since we plan to adapt the GM compressor into the system.

For the rest of the day, I tried my hand at fabrication in making a bracket for the Howell computer. I have a new found respect for those who can dream up even these simple mechanisms. I'm generally pretty good at generating ideas, but today I stood around scratching my head for a good 3 hours. In the end, though, I prevailed and got the computer where I wanted it. Tomorrow, I'll pick up where I left off and finish making the holding strap, paint my handiwork, and plug in the connections for the 'puter. I should have some pics to post up on this piece later. Fabrication is straight up challenging (but fun)!

My Viair onboard air kit also arrived today, so I'll get pics of that up once I start the installation. First things first, though...I want a running engine!
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 07/03/10 06:54 AM

I finished mounting the computer. I'm really happy with how it came out and am glad I chose this location as there is plenty of firewall to penetrate for the ALDL connector and engine management fuse block.

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My radiator also came in today, and Ron worked his magic. You can see the surface area of the cooling surface. This thing is PERFECT! The mounting is awesome, and solid as can be while still sitting on shock absorbing isolators.

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Tomorrow, Ron will work on the shroud, and I hope to finish the gauge plate that I made out of 1/16 aluminum plate. Next week the truck goes out for exhaust, and I hope to get this thing running soon!
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 07/17/10 06:05 AM

Well, it's been a couple of weeks, and it seems like little progress has been made. All of the little stuff takes SO much time. Finally, today, the FJ60 went to the exhaust shop! I picked up the last puzzle pieces necessary to start it up, so that should happen Monday or Tuesday when it comes back with exhaust. I can't wait!

In the mean time, I took a couple of pictures of stuff that is not so exciting, but important nonetheless.

Twin sticks

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New custom battery boxes

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Notice I said "boxes"

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The 200 amp solenoid for the dual system

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I hope to drive this thing next week!
Posted By: Greg_Canada

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 07/27/10 03:55 PM

Lookin' good!
I'm so jealous of the lack of rust....
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 07/31/10 04:14 AM

Thanks!

Today, I picked it up and installed the OME Heavy lift kit. It is the PERFECT height for me, and once I get my 33s on the wheels, this thing is going to be sweet. There is NOTHING like pulling hills in 4th gear without down shifting and accelerating the whole way. 85 is no longer a valid limit to the speedo...

I'm stoked to be driving this thing. Thanks to all who've commented. I'll post pictures of the final engine install, along with some pics of it with the OME lift on, later this evening.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/03/10 06:34 AM

Well, I'm a little late getting to this, but here are some pics for anyone watching...

The final engine pics. I loaned one of my batteries to someone, so I don't have the dual system completely wired, but the solenoid is in and ready to go. The fan shroud is a custom one made to go with the custom radiator. The radiator is installed as it came, straight off the shelf, so if the day comes that I need to replace it, I won't have to do any modification to the new one. The exhaust came out GREAT, and I'm perfectly happy with the tone and performance. NO droning with this Magnaflow...

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Some OME suspension pics
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I really need to get those 33s mounted...
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Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/03/10 06:42 AM

I picked up another item over the last couple of weeks. This piece is from wagongear.com and converts the FJ60 tailgate into a storage locker. Kevin makes a VERY nice product, and I'm more than happy to sport it in my rig. I plan to keep my ARB tire plug kit and recovery strap in there for now. I'm sure I'll get a lot of use out of it.

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Close up of the locking cam latch
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Next up is getting the 33s mounted, and I'll start installing electronics. Lots left to do, but I plan of driving the hell out of this thing...
Posted By: kewlynx

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/04/10 04:27 AM

Lookin good Jon!

If the camper wasn't going to be on the back of the Taiga Taco most of the time, I'd like that storage locker for the gate. Is that metal or heavy plastic?

Toss your flares and jumper cables in there too for easy access.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/04/10 05:44 AM

Thanks, Margie.

The frame is powdercoated metal, and the door is very thick ABS plastic. I'll be ordering the side panels that he offers in the near future. They'll also be locking with the same type of latches and will allow the side pockets to be used for mounting equipment and more storage.

I encourage anyone to check out Kevin's webpage. His product speaks for itself.
Posted By: kewlynx

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/04/10 08:33 AM

I was just looking at what looks like a wire harness in the gate there; you might consider making that lay down with some metallic duct tape (the good stuff) to keep things from snagging and ripping its lips off.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/09/10 03:39 AM

Carlos had a Cherokee bumper that I was going to buy from him, but I flaked because I knew I wouldn't be able to get around to modifying it for quite some time. Sorry, Carlos...

After messing up that deal, I found out that FJ60 ARB winch bumpers are hard to come by in the U.S. right now. In fact, the distributor for the West Coast was out with no foreseeable restock date. So, when I found one on sale, and in stock, at Iron Pig Offroad, I jumped on it.

Friday, I spent 6 hours cutting and grinding to get the 2" receiver tube that the PO welded TO the front bumper and frame off of the rig. On Saturday morning, I got the bull bar put on. I also received my new solenoid pack for my old school 8274 from Warn. Now, I just need to test the motor, get the winch cleaned and mounted, and I'll be ready to go. I'm going to run synthetic winch line, so I'll need to make sure the winch drum is nice and smooth.

The 33" X-Terrains should be mounted and balanced on Monday or Tuesday.

Here are some pics of the weekend's progress.

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Posted By: kewlynx

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/09/10 04:07 AM

Too bad you're so far away; if she hasn't sold it already, I know someone who has the Yakima roof rack off her '85.

Bumper looks good on there.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/16/10 06:49 AM

Thanks, Margie. I have 2 sets of yakima gutter feet and crossbars on the shelf in the garage. The reason they're not on the truck is because I have the roof rack that came on the rig. So, this weekend, I focused on getting the rack back on top, getting the kayak cradles mounted and test fitted, and getting the FTM-350 mounted up. I don't have any pics of the radio since I didn't get to work on my face plate mount, but below are a few pics of the exterior improvements.

I got the 33" X-Terrains mounted and installed a larger mirror on the driver's side. Once TLC gets another, I'll put one on the passenger's side, as well. The visibility improvement is amazing over the old one.

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Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/28/10 06:35 AM

Labor Day finally brings an opportunity for camping, so I've been working over time on the rig. Unfortunately, there won't be any wheeling involved, but it will be sleeping outside, just the same. We'll be loading up the kayaks and heading down to Arroyo Seco or Big Sur for a couple of days with good company.

I went ahead and mounted some anti-tailgater/campsite lights on the rear of the roof rack. I should get them wired up tomorrow.

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The V8 has been feeling a little sluggish under load, so I've been doing a lot of reading. During my digging, I found that GM put out a TSB on the fuel injectors on this engine. A quick call to my favorite parts guy revealed that he had everything I needed to do the update in stock, so I tackled that last night and today.

Old vs. new. The new setup is pretty cool. It didn't really help with the sluggishness, but it is good insurance and definitely worth the coin in cost to get the parts. Reliability is the word for me these days...

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Inside the upper intake cover after I did some scraping and cleaning. The GM tech I was chatting with mentioned large amounts of carbon buildup in there when the engine hasn't been maintained religiously. Well, the front half of this thing had carbon caked in there. Scraping with a shop vac providing continuous suction took care of most of it. I will say that this engine is a dream to work on compared to the last two I've done work to. We'll see how things shape up after I put a few miles on it...

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I got my comms gear mounted up today. Details can be seen here: http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showf...&an=0&page=0#Post1216731

Tomorrow, I'll install 4* shims to get my caster straightened out. Steering has been a little touchy since installing the OME lift. I also will finish installing my S/S brake lines from TLC 4x4 and the Russell speed bleeders that Margie and Brian recommended. Finally, I hope to get some wiring done on my various lights and interior stuff. I have an ARB fridge to figure out mounting for and need to get packed for next weekend. My stuff has cobwebs and dirt (not dust) on it from sitting in the garage... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Mad_Scientist

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/29/10 01:06 PM

Hi Jon,

Just seen this thread for the first time. Wow! What an awesome truck. Great work <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> Post up a video of the V8 burble.
Posted By: Greg_Canada

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/29/10 09:53 PM

O that's nasty.... mine was not nearly that bad inside....
Love the ARB bumper... looks sick...
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/30/10 09:06 AM

Thanks for the comments.

Greg, you're right, it was nasty. I'm gradually working my way through it and am longing for the day I can get the dag-burned thing running right.

Reuben, thanks for dropping in. I'll try to get some footage up once It's good to go. Although, I don't think the ceramic mic in the video camera will do it justice. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Today, while in Menlo Park for the boy's soccer game, I got the call to drive up to San Leandro and pick up some sliding windows for it. I had contacted the fella to buy them from him, but since he couldn't make it down to meet me, he said I could have them if I'd drive the whole way up to get them. Well, I couldn't refuse and drove the extra 20 minutes North to nab them. With the way things have been going with the engine, I needed something positive, and this was it!

This weekend, I flogged on this dolphin quite a bit but didn't quite get the thing straightened out. I'm trying to get a new MAF for it tomorrow. The saga continues...
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 09/25/10 06:29 AM

I finally got the rig running right. I know the importance of having a few basic ignition and pressure testing tools that I will ensure I pick up for the tool box. An in-line spark tester and an O2 sensor adaptor for a pressure gauge are a must! This thing runs like a champ! Hopefully, after a couple of tanks of gas for the computer to learn my driving style, I'll be able to realize the fabled MPG improvement that this engine is supposed to get over the 2F. Well, if I can keep my right foot from smothering the gas pedal, that is... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

This week I had no classes to attend, so I spent some time getting outstanding things wrapped up.

I got the interior power buss and grounding point installed and connected
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And the HAM radio connected
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I got the dual batteries installed and wired
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I had the folks at Kar Tunes build some door mounted boxes for my components. They are a little bulky but necessary what with the limited mounting depth that the door glass presents. These speakers are by far the best I've ever had in one of my vehicles. I bought them for less than half price at a store closing sale in San Diego before I went overseas and have been saving them. Wow, am I glad that I did! They are powered by an Alpine CDA-117 via an Alpine PDX 4.150 (150 Watts RMS per channel). I'm installing a set of Alpine coaxials in the rear doors tomorrow.

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Finally, I've been on the waiting list at Lavender Bros Automotive (XXX Traction) to get some rocker protection fab work done. These sliders are one off and BEEF. Toby designed them to sandwich the crease between two tubes. We discussed notching the seam to allow them to tuck up close to the body and decrease ground clearance reduction. I brought them home to clean and paint them today, and Toby will install them on Monday.

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One more for scale
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It's almost ready to wheel. I'm looking forward to getting out on the trail!
Posted By: 4xmonty

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 09/26/10 07:36 AM

Hey Jon
I have the same Alpine amp just finishing up my hook up.I'm looking forward to seeing how it sounds with my Infinity spkrs
Russ <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 09/26/10 08:40 AM

Hey Russ,

I've been going easy on the speakers as I break them in, but I'm pretty sure they'll make my ears bleed if I crank them up to their potential with this amp. Even at a volume level of 12, they are LOUD. I had no idea what they were when I bought them. I only knew they were 40% off. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Greg_Canada

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 09/26/10 02:27 PM

Nice my bud has the same speakers in his car, they sound great.
You're going to want to fade the sound from the back to the front, honestly, in my truck i just unplugged the rear speakers. when you have 150 watts a piece to some nice speakers, you only need 2 <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 09/27/10 02:55 AM

Yeah, the ones in the rear aren't slouchy speakers either. I got some 1" spacer rings and put some Alpine SPR-17C's in the rear doors. My kid rides back there and likes music just as much as I do, so I couldn't just put in a pair...

I'm researching what to do for a sub. I'm thinking I'll pick up a 1.1000 Alpine amp since it will stack on top of the 4 channel for a compact install under the driver's seat. Then I'll run a slim-line sub in a permanent mount somewhere. We'll see later. I'm good with what I've got for now, I think.

I got everything buttoned up today and will drop the rig off to get the sliders mounted tomorrow. I didn't get them painted, so I'll have to figure that out once they're on the rig. It won't be as easy, but they'll get done.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 09/28/10 05:52 AM

I got a call last night with a prod to get off my butt and get those sliders painted before Toby welded them on today. Thanks, Russ! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" /> I cleaned them up with some Acetone I had in the garage and primed/painted them in the area that would be too close to the body once mounted. They were still a PITA to get painted, and I got some overspray on my crappy body paint, but they are mounted and I like 'em! Enough yapping, here are the pics...

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Semi-Flat Black...I'll add some non-skid to the tops to cut down on wear and provide a good stepping area at each door.
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Posted By: Mad_Scientist

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 09/29/10 01:12 PM

Looking good there my friend <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> Nice looking welds <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 09/30/10 03:42 AM

Thanks, Reuben. I only wish I could weld like that...it was all Toby Lavender's doing. He's great at what he does!

Here's a link to his shop's site: XXX Traction
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 11/15/10 07:21 AM

No pictures, but I made a little progress on some bland but important, things.

My fuel mileage has been bad with the V8, but I've finally put a couple thousand miles on it. It's running well now that I had the two catalytic converters replaced. One was completely blown out, and the other had about 40% of the "straws" melted shut. No wonder the thing was acting funny.

I also have been trying to figure out why I have popping through the exhaust on deceleration. When working with Howell on a replacement computer, I realized that my manual transmission Express van profile does not have a provision for the AIR injection pump that was plumbed into my rig. I made some block off plates for the manifolds and installed them with GM gaskets. A trip around the block had the rig running a little better, yet, and with no popping. I'll give it a test on the hills to see if it really is better tomorrow.

When removing the AIR flanges from the manifolds, I noticed a fuel smell. I wonder if the O2 sensors weren't getting a jacked up reading with fresh air from the pipe being allowed into the system at the manifold. Maybe it's been running rich on account of this. Hopefully, I haven't put enough rich running time on the new cats to jack them up, too.

I went on to replace the driver's side window regulator, replace a jacked up t-case dfill plug, replace a jacked up tail light lens, change the oil, add a grab handle over the driver's door...little stuff that just needed to be done. I ordered a set of OEM non-retractable shoulder harnesses for the back seat. My kid deserves them.

Like I said, work has been a bit boring, but things are being done nontheless. Thanks for reading, and I hope to have an interesting update soon.
Posted By: kewlynx

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 11/16/10 02:21 AM

So it's like "all jacked up", yes?

Interesting issue with the air pump setup.Hmmm..
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 11/16/10 06:09 AM

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So it's like "all jacked up", yes?

Interesting issue with the air pump setup.Hmmm..


Yep, aaaaalllll jacked up... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

The AIR system is getting jettisoned. I'll get around to procuring some proper AIR-free manifolds at some point, but the block-off plates will suffice for now.

I moved my 2M antenna to the ARB, and it seems to be working fine. I'm going to borrow a SWR meter from rascott at some point so I can tune it.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 11/16/10 07:35 AM

Here are some pics of the antenna mount. Thanks for the cable Richard (rascott)!

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Posted By: rascott

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 11/16/10 06:25 PM

this looks real nice, jon.
does the antenna fold parallel to the bumper?
on your next swing by, take that meter with you to play with(i have one for cb also).
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 11/21/10 08:53 AM

Thanks, Richard. It was good talking to you the other day, and I'll definitely let you know next time I'm up in SC. Kai's on a soccer break for a couple of weeks, so it'll probably be a bit.

To answer your question, the antenna does fold in any direction I want it to. I'm looking at ways to secure it when not in use, but I haven't quite figured that piece out yet. On the other hand, I don't really even notice it when it's up anymore.

Today, I neglected my school work and decided to get started on my first welding project. Right after I got the 60, I bought a rear bumper kit with the thought of putting it together myself. I finally got around to getting started on it.

I fought the old bumper carriage bolts for a while until I decided to hit the military exchange and pick up a 10A Craftsman recip saw they had on sale. For anyone with AAFES access, all Craftsman power tools are 20% off. I got the "sawz-all" for $66. A good deal, methinks, but I digress. This morning, the saw made quick work of the bolts, and I had the bumper off in no time. After that, I used the saw to cut off the ends of the rivets holding the old brackets on and beat the brackets off with a ball-peen hammer, some drift punches and cold chisels. Finally, I clamped the new brackets on and marked the holes for drilling.

After burning through a 1/2" DeWalt bit with my hand drill motor, I decided it was time to step it up. I went down to OSH and picked up a Cobalt Irwin bit and chucked it up in the tool I waited a LONG time to get. My old Craftsman drill press!

A little story...I called on a Delta belt/disc sander that I found on C/L and went to pick it up around the corner from my house. While at the fella's place, I noticed he had some old school stuff sitting around with LOTS of dust on them. I told him I wanted the Porter Cable pedestal grinder and Craftsman drill press. He said he wasn't ready to let them go, so I gave him my contact info and drove home with the POS sander I had bought. Over the next month, I called him several times to let him know I was still interested in those old tools, and one day he said "come and make me an offer!" I immediately drove over there and handed him cash deposits on the stuff so I could ensure they would remain mine. I finally got them home, where they sat in the corner until today.

Anyway, here are some pics of my prize boring the holes in my new bumper brackets. I'll post more pics later as I put that Miller welder, I bought last year, to work.

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And a couple of the drill press for kicks

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Posted By: kewlynx

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 11/22/10 06:40 AM

American steel. Sniffsniff. I miss it.

Nice score!!
Posted By: CJM

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 11/27/10 04:34 AM

just found your thread .. read it all

nice work !! always loved the 60's
have a peek at this one http://toyotatrekker.proboards.com/index...&thread=392 .. he's thinkin' of havin' me do a "4runner" type removable top as well ..
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 11/27/10 06:56 AM

Thanks, Cory! If you can, please PM me a ball park on the expected cost of said "Big-a$$ed Trekker Conversion!" I can't do body work to save my life.

I cut the damaged rear bumper crossmember out on Thursday and need to try and get the rivets drilled out to remove the end pieces.

Today, I picked up an H55F (5 speed) to put in place of the H42 (4 speed) that the U.S. version Cruisers got. I'm going to reseal it, put bolt up the spare t-case that I got with it, and try to get it installed before my drive to see the family in Oklahoma at Christmas. Next Saturday, I'm going to pick up a knuckle rebuild kit, wheel bearings and the t-case rebuild kit/transmission seals. I've got quite a bit of work to do, but I want to get all the stuff collected before I start taking the truck down. I have new front brakes sitting on the shelf for when I get the rest of the parts.

Once these last few maintance items are taken care of, I will have been through everything with the fine-toothed comb and should be able to trust it on a real trip. I still have to try to figure out cruise control for the V8. That's the next research item on the list.
Posted By: CJM

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 11/28/10 07:30 PM

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Thanks, Cory! If you can, please PM me a ball park on the expected cost of said "Big-a$$ed Trekker Conversion!" I can't do body work to save my life.


email me bud .. cj@toyotafiberglass.com .. it's just easier . we'll need to discuss a bunch of different options


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Posted By: kewlynx

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 11/29/10 03:26 AM

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I still have to try to figure out cruise control for the V8.


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Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 12/18/10 07:37 AM

Cory, I haven't forgotten about the email you sent. School has gotten in the way of all other thought. I'll send a reply eventually... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Margie, the cable thing scares me as there's no cut off if something happens to the driver. I'm looking into c/c units.

Now that the quarter is over, I got a much anticipated item checked off of my to do list for the 60. The H55F is in! The 150 miles that I drove between Valley Hybrids, in Stockton, and the house were a bundle of joy with a V8 and 5 speed combo. Georg, and crew, did a GREAT job on my trans/tcase. Now to put some miles on the thing!

My next decision will be to decide if I want the 4.10 differentials out of an FJ62 he has for me. With 33s, the 3.70 gears work fine, but I think I'll want the 4.10s for 35s. I'll surely want a pair of air lockers for the rig, regardless of the gears I choose. I need to make my decision soon so I can rebuild my front axle over the school break.

I have a rear tow bumper with tire/gas can carriers on order and expect it to be done after Christmas.

Today, I hooked up a new solenoid pack to the 8274 winch I've had on the shelf. While the PO thought that the motor was bad, it turned out that he probably didn't hook it up to power correctly. It works! I need to do some work on the bottom end of the winch, but the $$$ motor I thought I'd need to replace works well. I can't wait to get it mounted up after we get back from San Diego for the weekend.

I've had an intermittent fuel pump cut-out issue, but overall the rig is running reliably, finally! The power is good, and the addition of the 5 speed should bring some economy. We're becoming happier with this truck every time a bug gets worked out. I'll try to post some pics over the next couple of days.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 12/31/10 08:37 PM

A lot has happened this month. After my last post, we drove the truck about 1500 miles on a round trip to San Diego to look at houses. The fuel pump issue continued, and I traced it down to a loose clip in the weather-pak connector on the howell harness. I soldered/resoldered a couple of connections, and it's good to go.

Yesterday, I went back to Stockton, and learned how to pull apart and rebuild a front axle. I did decide to replace the 3rd members with those containing 4.10 gears. Now I have a fully rebuilt front axle with new brakes, a resealed rear axle and 4.10 gears. The truck runs GREAT, and I feel confident that I can drive it now without fear of the unknown.

Now that the rig is reliable, I'll be focusing on getting the onboard air sorted, the sleeping platform built and my winch buttoned up and installed. I've also got the rear bumper coming, will trim the rear quarters and add rear panel sliders, and am having a new seat pan fabricated. After all the miles I've put on, now, I realize the seat spacers I made aren't what I want them to be.
Posted By: kewlynx

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 01/01/11 05:36 AM

Cool; sounds like it's coming along. Seemed to me the gal whose water pump I replaced last(?) winter also had an intermittent fuel pump problem that turned out to also be wiring- '85/2F. Didn't have my hands on that one tho'.
Posted By: CJM

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 01/07/11 02:14 AM

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Cory, I haven't forgotten about the email you sent. School has gotten in the way of all other thought. I'll send a reply eventually... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


no worries ..
I'm BOOKED right now till June anyway .. so just continue doing what your doing

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Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 01/30/11 06:38 AM

I put in another work day on the Cruiser. Georg @ Valley Hybrids in Stockton installed my rear ARB locker. I'll be working on getting the OBA system up and running so I can use it, but here's proof that it's in there.

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I also picked up my new 4+ Plus rear bumper and mounted it. Here are a few shots of the rig as it stands today.

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Finally, here's proof that I do actually do some work on my own junk. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />

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Posted By: kewlynx

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 02/02/11 06:59 AM

'Bout time we got to see you on your knees and gettin' dirty!!

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Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 02/02/11 07:58 AM

Hehehe...yer a funny girl! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

That picture was taken right before I almost caught those mechanic gloves on fire. The back of my hands are still showing marks. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />

I hope to get some pics from a drive I plan to take on Friday. We'll see how it goes...
Posted By: Greg_Canada

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 02/02/11 04:41 PM

Looking awesome, but you NEED to do something about those wheels <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> the 90's were 20 years ago LOL...
Rear bumper is niiiiceee
Posted By: justice

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 02/04/11 07:13 PM

Actually those wheels were popularized in the late 80's..I remeber a freind of mine had a set on his lowered Mitsubishi Truck in 88..The tailgate said "ITS BISHI" on the back.

Any plans to armor the Gas tank yet? I need to take care of that one myself on both rigs. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 02/04/11 10:12 PM

Ha-ha...yeah, yeah, I get it...the 80's called and want their wheels back. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Those wheels have been LOW on the priority list, but I do, in fact, hate them. I have a set of round hole ones that are spray painted black to put on. At least they're 15x8 unlike the saw blades. I'll get them put on soon enough.

Justice, I have been looking at underbody protection. I think I'll be re-routing the exhaust so that it goes over the driveshaft instead of under the oil pan. Once I do that, I'll make a skid plate for the transfer case and figure something for the gas tank. The spare tire used to be under it, so it's UP in there. I should be able to make something using the bolt holes for the spare tire "hoist."

First things first, I need to get my OBA installed so I can power the rear locker and make sure the tank is protected where I'm mounting it under the body. I also sprung a leak in my 6 month old aluminum radiator at the top row. I have a new one coming in under warranty, and I need to get the mounting clamps tightened up so I can ensure the mount isn't what is causing the damage. There is a little more play than I'm comfortable with in there.

Thanks for the comments! Now, off to get a little dirty... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 02/10/11 09:59 AM

I finally got those skinny saw blade wheels off the rig today. I replaced them with a set of old school Enkei two piece 15x8 aluminum wheels that were spray painted black when I got them. If anyone has a line on any of them, I'd like to purchase one for a spare. Here are a couple of pics.

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I also got some pictures of my new seat bracket from [email]Don@FC[/email] Fab. I'm really excited to pick it up and get it installed. I'll finally have a comfortable angle to the seat for the long drives I like to take. My request was a seat pan that has a comfortable seating angle, that uses the factory mount points, that is set up for 5 point harnesses, and that will accommodate my Tuffy console. Here are some pics of his impressive art work.

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Posted By: stock87

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 02/10/11 04:48 PM

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I also got some pictures of my new seat bracket from [email]Don@FC[/email] Fab. I'm really excited to pick it up and get it installed. I'll finally have a comfortable angle to the seat for the long drives I like to take. My request was a seat pan that has a comfortable seating angle, that uses the factory mount points, that is set up for 5 point harnesses, and that will accommodate my Tuffy console. Here are some pics of his impressive art work.

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Posted By: Greg_Canada

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 02/10/11 05:41 PM

The wheels transform the truck! waaaaay better looking.
Seats brackets are... BEEFY
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 02/10/11 06:47 PM

Thanks for the comments.

Those frames will definitely hold my big a$$ in place if they ever need to do their job, although I hope I never have to test them. I'll get an idea of weight once I pick the frame up and get it installed.
Posted By: Mad_Scientist

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 02/11/11 01:27 PM

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That rear bumper looks very stout. Awesome truck <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 02/12/11 08:58 AM

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That rear bumper looks very stout. Awesome truck <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


Thanks for dropping by Reuben!

As for the seat mount, it IS beef! When I picked it up today, I figured it must weigh at least 30 lbs. The next post has info/impressions.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 02/12/11 08:59 AM

Bottom Line Up Front: [email]Don@FC[/email] Fab is a metal master, and if you want to REALLY improve your rig, properly install your seats!

Anyone who knows Don, or has seen his work, knows that I've stated the obvious, but If you want to know why I'm posting about it, read on about my seat bracket...

One word on the impact of a seemingly insignificant modification...un-freaking-believable!

A little history:
When I bought my FJ60, I thought the seats were the most uncomfortable that I'd encountered in a rig during my 5 hour drive home from the purchase. I have long legs, so I had some "risers" bent at a sheet metal shop and installed them between the factory sliders and my Hunsaker Synkro seats. While I was instantly satisfied by the chair-like seating position, I didn't like the flat seat profile. I also didn't like the fact that my head was in the headliner or the fact that I had to crane my neck down to see stoplights.

Enter my visit to Valley Hybrids to get an un-named hippie to do some work on my junk. I interrupted Don while he was busy at work on the Crop Duster to talk about the art he was making on the thing. I explained that I was interested in his making me a seat frame that would:
1) bolt to the existing mount points in the 60
2) have a tilted base for my seating comfort
3) accommodate 5 point harnesses
4) accommodate my beloved Tuffy console

Well, the below pictures are what Don came up with, and the 2.5 hour drive home allowed me to discover that it is EXACTLY what this rig needed. It rounded out the package, and I can't wait until the next time I get to drive it.

My first impressions:
I was previously disappointed in my OME springs because I felt there was too much roll when taking long curves at highway speeds. Boy, was my disappointment misplaced! Some things happened when Don and I installed this bracket. Don mentioned that it may reinforce the body, and he couldn't have been more right. I was able to hold speed through corners, on the way home, that I always felt real uncomfortable with before tonight.

Sitting IN a seat is completely different than sitting ON a seat. I previously stated that I "loved" these seats. What I felt before pales in comparison to how I feel about them now. When a seat is sturdily mounted with the base at the proper angle, it keeps you planted and ergonomically correct. Now I know why real sports cars mount the seats the way they do!

If any of you have the opportunity to take on this upgrade to your rig, do it! I would put proper seating right up there with proper headlights with regard to drivability. Thanks for enduring my rambling, now here are some pics.

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Posted By: CJM

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 02/25/11 03:05 AM

NICE !!!


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Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 02/25/11 05:29 AM

Thanks, Cory!

Tonight, I put the lower end of my 8274 back together with new parts from Warn. I hope to bolt it up to the bumper and install the new cable this weekend. We'll see...

I'm also working with John, from the Mitsubishi section, to make a new panel for my heater area. The new one will eliminate the ashtray that I don't use and have holes for a line of Carling switches for my ARB lockers, VIAIR OBA system and auxiliary lighting. I'll also install a panel of 3 12V outlets. I'm pretty excited.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/27/11 08:17 AM

Bringing things up to speed...

I recently transferred back to SOCAL after some time overseas and in Grad School. We found and closed on our first home, and I'm dealing with previous owner modifications that I never dreamt of. And I thought fixing rig modifications gone wrong were a PITA...

Anyway, soon after I got down here, Justice took me out to Anza Borrego on a day run. Ran the Squeeze and Heart Attack Hill and had an ass-puckering good time. Here are some pics.

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If any of you SOCAL guys want to get together sometime, please let me know.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/27/11 08:30 AM

I made a run to Stockton to see Don and Georg for some work.

First, let me just say that [email]Georg@Valley[/email] Hybrids is a stand up guy and did follow up work on the t-case and diff work he previously did with no questions asked. It took him a day to get it all done with my dumb-ass looking on, and once again, I learned a lot. Thanks again for the hospitality, bro!

[email]Don@FC[/email] Fab, on the other hand, worked more metal magic on the Wag. When he build my seat pan, he integrated a tab on the pan behind the seat for the shoulder harnesses to temporarily bolt to. He said he didn't like the angle of the belts pulling on my shoulders, so I asked about the possibility of making a removable harness bar that I can use while off-road with my kid, but that we can still use the rear seat for passenger duty on the road. He gave me exactly that.

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As you can see, the bar bolts into the location of the brackets that lock the rear seat back into place. Don welded a scab plate in and added a third threaded hole for the bar. To use the bar, I just fold down the rear seat, remove the factory brackets and bolt in the harness bar. With the bar removed, I can put the factory brackets back in and use the rear seat as normal. When the bar is in place, it really stiffens up the body, and I like it A LOT.

The other thing Don did for me was weld in a plate with a welded nut for the Toyota optional shoulder belts that I ordered a while ago. Now when the rear seat is in use, I have shoulder belts for the precious cargo that rides back there. Thanks again, Don!

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The last thing we talked about at length during my visit was topping and caging this thing. Damn, I'm on the edge and slipping...:D
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/30/11 08:38 AM

What happened yesterday...

So, I loaded up my wife and kid to take them on a run to pick up some furniture we purchased, and I swear the only time this thing acts up is when she's in the rig. She hates it, and I think it hates her.

As I was trying to pass a dumb ass who couldn't maintain a steady speed in his Lexus, I down shifted to fourth and floored the pedal on a hill. Suddenly, the rig starts making a gawd-awful racket (kind of a low end knocking noise) and doesn't want to accelerate well. Then I smell a burning smell and the check engine light starts to flash. So, I slow and drive to our exit and come to a stop sign. At idle, the truck runs with a miss, and a little "rattle" from what I think is the bottom end. When I get to the parking lot, the sound has gone away, and the idle is just a little rough.

We pick up the furniture and decide to go easy and try to make the 30 mile trek back to the house. At one point, the truck starts stumbling very badly as if it's running out of time. I pull over, turn off the engine, start it back up, and we're on our way again.

I get back to the house and pull out the scanner to pull seven codes. I have the standard EVAP greeting I always have since my evap isn't hooked up yet (fix in progress), I have two general misfire codes, two #4 cylinder misfire codes, and I have a knock sensor low voltage code. The knock sensor code I've seen before when I've had that stumbling happen. I think the misfire codes are the big issue and are what caused the drama. I think the burning smell may have been valve damage.

I'm going to start with a compression check to see if it reveals anything straight away. Can anyone think of anything else that leaps out at them in the troubleshooting process? When I put this engine in, I changed the fuel spider to the new one, I changed the cap/plugs/rotor, and I changed the crank sensor, cam sensor and ignition module chasing a random dying problem. It also has about 5k on the cats and new O2 sensors.

Thanks for any advice/conversation you provide before I burn this fricken thing to the ground.

Jon
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 08/30/11 08:40 AM

Today's discovery

I took compression readings starting with #5 for a starboard reference and got 180. I then took #4 for a whopping 0. I followed up with 2 and 6, for adjacent cylinder reference, and got 190 and 180, respectively. It looks like I'm pulling the valve cover tomorrow to see what damage I've done. This engine was a used unit with 100k on it when I bought it, so I may go ahead and pull both heads and get them refreshed. No reason to push my luck on the rest of them, I guess. Is there any other "while I'm in there" stuff I should be looking to do when I have it apart?

On another note, I found out that the flashing SES light I encountered, and drove with for 35 miles, is supposedly to warn you that the pumping of your cats full of raw fuel is in progress and their death is a certainty. GREAT! There's another $700 down the shitter if it's true.

I guess I'm living and learning, now...

Thanks,
Jon
Posted By: CJM

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 09/02/11 01:25 AM

yikes .. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> ..
and it's not like you can eliminate the cats !!



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Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 09/02/11 05:22 AM

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and it's not like you can eliminate the cats !!



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Nope, nor do I want to. When the system is working as designed, the engine makes PLENTY of power and runs VERY clean. '99 tech trumps '87 tech any day in terms of power, cleanliness and efficiency.

I've started pulling things apart. I think I may use this opportunity to rearrange the electrical bits while all the interference is out of the way. I've decided that I don't quite like the way my PCM is mounted and will try to explore another option.

Once I get the heads out, I'll post some pics of the damage.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: Oyaji's '87 FJ60 - 09/24/11 04:35 PM

Got set back a bit by an unrelated event...

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but I decided to get off my dead ass and get the heads off the Vortec. As mentioned before, I dropped compression in cylinder #4. Here's why...

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Nasty cylinder head...

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Really nasty intake manifold. I found that the metal Felpro gaskets were installed, so the intake manifold has been off before. I have no way of knowing if the heads were reconditioned or not.

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I can't understand why the front half of the intake is so caked with [censored]! I did notice that there were flakes caked in what I assume to be sticky oil from the K&N filter. I can't think of anything else that would be gummy like that. The flakes are from when I tried to clean my MAF sensor and it let go.

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What an FJ60/Vortec engine bay looks like with the monster top end of the Vortec removed. That's a lot of stuff! I'm thinking of re-positioning my ECU using the bracket that Elbert posted a GM part number for.

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Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

FINALLY some progress - 12/22/11 01:48 AM

Well, I decided to spend a little cash and put in the Comp Cams Magnum roller rockers and some chromoly pushrods. I guess I figured "what the hell" since I was in as deep as I was anyway. They made hitting "zero lash" as easy as it could've been, I suppose. I also installed the ARP head studs with 12 point nuts. The head job wasn't much fun in a lifted FJ60. Here's where I stand.

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Here's what is holding me up:

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The old Felpro lower intake gasket is made of metal with substantial rubber to seal the passages. The new one is plastic with MUCH less rubber to effectively seal things up. Should I try and get the metal gasket as a standalone item? Also, should I put any sealant around the water passages? A couple of google searches say some different things, so I was hoping someone here might have some insight. Also, does anyone happen to have a manual that they can scan/take a picture of the torque sequence and values for the intake manifold and upper plenum? I can't find my printout that my GM guy in Monterey gave me before my last move.

Thanks for any help you all can provide. I'm really excited to get my truck back on the road!
Posted By: kewlynx

Re: FINALLY some progress - 12/22/11 02:10 AM

I think this is where I'd recruit some input from the ih8mud crowd; lotsa 2Fs over there, and they might have the manual you need, if you can't find it in the ncttora's library. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

I hear ya on trying to work on a lifted FJ-- at 5'5", that water pump I swapped out a couple years ago wasn't fun.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: FINALLY some progress - 12/22/11 02:26 AM

Hi Margie,

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I hope all is well with you in the Far North. Merry Christmas!

Jon
Posted By: kewlynx

Re: FINALLY some progress - 12/22/11 03:32 AM

K', so had to go back up in the thread for the swap! See what happens when you let these sink?? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

If you have some specific particulars about that 5.7, it would be a big help, as there are some variables in the torque that I've seen with a quick google.

And a Merry Christmas to you! Fixin' to go from +20 to -30 this weekend. Weirdly tropical.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: FINALLY some progress - 12/22/11 06:48 AM

Thanks Margie. It is a "R" Vin L31 5.7 Vortec that was found in A LOT of applications but most commonly known from the 98 and 99 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks, 'burbans and vans.

Here, the weather's no less strange. I encounter 25-35 degree temps on my 1 hour one-way commute every morning on the motorbike. I think we've all got it a little weird right now...
Posted By: kewlynx

Re: FINALLY some progress - 12/22/11 08:04 AM

Don't know if this thread will help or not, but looks like Provost has been down that bunny trail with heads:

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/tech-general-engine/324845-vortec-head-bolts-torque.html
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: FINALLY some progress - 12/22/11 08:29 AM

Thanks, but that's for head bolts. I went with good 'ole ARP head studs with an 80 ft/lb torque value. Mine are securely clamped...

I think I've got what I need. I'll post up some more info once I complete the job. Thanks again.
Posted By: kewlynx

Re: FINALLY some progress - 12/22/11 09:07 AM

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Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: FINALLY some progress - 12/23/11 01:56 AM

Ok...a friend set me up for a conversation with his engine builder, and he set me straight on some things. I'm going to use the plastic framed Felpro gasket that came in the head set with a VERY light coat of sealant around the water jacket areas to fill in the pitting on the iron Vortec heads. For future reference, below is the torque spec for the lower and upper manifolds. I'll tighten both with an X-pattern for the center 4 bolts and work my way out symmetrically from there.

The lower manifold requires a three step torque process measured in in-lbs: 27-106-132

The upper manifold requires a two step torque process measured in in-lbs: 44-88

That pretty much sums it up. I hope to post that I have it running and driving this weekend. Margie, once again, I appreciate your input.
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

It runs...but needs some attention... - 01/01/12 10:14 PM

I drove the Wag last night! I took it around the block and back into the garage only to find puddles of coolant forming under the driver's side. I crawled underneath and, to my horror, saw coolant seeping out of the ARP head studs. Apparently, I failed at thread sealing the damn things. After doing a little reading, I'm going to try a different thread sealer by pulling one stud at a time, adding sealer and re-torquing. Hopefully, I don't bone the head gaskets...

On the fuel front, I added a 100 micron filter between the tank and pump, and the pump immediately sounds better. I still need to get a 10 micron filter to put between the pump and engine, but I think this quality filter setup will help with my issues. I guess I'll see...
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

On the road again! - 01/21/12 05:58 PM

For anyone still paying attention, I've put nearly 1000 miles on the truck since completing the head repair, and I'm really pleased with how it's running. I've also installed my revised fuel filter setup with a 100 micron strainer and cutout valve before the pump and a 10 micron filter after the pump. It works great!

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I also mounted a tach, which still needs to be wired up, and installed an anti-theft devise to keep my rig where I leave it. There have been a number of FJ60s stolen recently, and I don't want to lose this one. Insurance will NEVER cover what I have in it...

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Next up is to FINALLY mount my OBA system and get my ARB locker hooked up. I'll be heading to VA and RI for about 6-1/2 months of Navy school at the end of next month, and I want to try to get some driving/trail riding in over there.
Posted By: kewlynx

Re: On the road again! - 01/23/12 03:17 AM

Right on. Bums about the thieves. Probably using them for rural drug-running.

You'll hafta post in OT about your road trip for the rest of the Wire members; esp if going by way of NC.

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Posted By: rascott

Re: On the road again! - 01/24/12 06:01 AM

nice update, jon.
this all looks great. neatness counts, and there's beauty in funtion.
also- that anti theft system makes a statement.
glad you got the leak fixed. re-torque do it?
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: On the road again! - 01/24/12 06:56 AM

Margie, I'll definitely post up something about the trip when I make it. I'm hoping to meet up with Justice while I'm over there, too.

Hi Richard, thanks for the comments. A lot of time taking the one-by-one re-torque nice and slow, adding A LOT of the goop to the threads, and allowing a full 2 days of curing time before starting it, and it appears that I've got no leaks. I've been driving it for the 130 mile round trip to work for the past week and a half and I'm LOVING it!

I've been having some weird vibes coming from the front end that I think are caused by the ratty-assed used tires I've been trying to use. So, I ordered 2 new X-Terrains today to match the others. I also picked up a mount for my quick release blingin' fire extinguisher. I hope to get that mounted in the next couple of days. Things are coming along...
Posted By: Greg_Canada

Re: On the road again! - 01/25/12 04:59 AM

Lookin good Jon, any pics of the wheel?
Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

Re: On the road again! - 01/25/12 06:19 AM

Hi Greg. The steering wheel? It's this one but has the quick release mounted under it.

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Thanks for the comment.

Today I got my new front tires, and it made a HUGE difference. I'll drive it to work tomorrow to see if it still vibrates in the places that were driving me nuts before changing them out.

I also ordered some of these a couple of days ago and should have them within the month.

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I got them from Kevin Rowland, the fella that made my tailgate storage.

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Posted By: Oyaji_Jon

More changes are on the horizon... - 01/27/12 07:24 AM

I've put a couple of days on the new tires, and it seems that my vibration problems are solved. Then, today I scored.

I came across a 4L80E transmission out of an '06 HD truck that was rolled and got it for a song. A good friend also picked up a project that never got off the ground and all of it's associated parts. In the lot was a 3.8 Atlas II with a 4L80E adapter and Art Carr cable shifter! I traded the future "take-out" 5 speed and split case with Mark's adapter that I will swap said Auto and Atlas for. Finally, I found the elusive Scout II steering box that I've been looking for and need to go pick it up tomorrow.

Where is all this going, you may ask? In September, I'll be changing to one ton axles in a spring-over configuration. My plan is to swap to the HD Auto and Atlas in preparation for the one ton running gear. I'm excited...
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Re: More changes are on the horizon... - 02/16/12 07:57 PM

Brown Santa came the other day, and I finally took a break from house work to get some rig time in. Thanks Kevin (Wagongear)! Fit and finish is perfect, as always, and the key from my tailgate works these cylinders just fine!

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After getting the side panels mounted, I turned my attention to repositioning my HAM rig. I fashioned a mounting tab for the head unit and got it mounted above the rearview mirror.

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Finally, Don (FC Fab) made me some beefy brackets for the 62 sway bar I want to mount. They are perfect, but my tailpipe is in the way so I'll be hacking that off soon.

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I'll be getting my HAM and CB operational, sway bar mounted, and a few more things before the drive, but I'm happy with where I am for now.
Posted By: kewlynx

Re: More changes are on the horizon... - 02/20/12 06:25 AM

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Posted By: rascott

Re: More changes are on the horizon... - 02/22/12 03:56 AM

i'm impressed with the stowage compartments. great way to utilze otherwise wasted space.
thanks for posting the pics.
when do you launch east? and are you gonna be able to sightsee some on the way(and back)?
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