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#43627 - 11/25/02 04:11 PM Cheap/Free mods for 87 4runner 22RE w/5speed??
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I just want to do something more to my truck. I already have 3" lift in the back..

Things I've done so far:
plugs/wires/fuel filter/radiator/front brakes & calipers/air filter

Things that need to be done:
rear brakes and e-brake assembly (No parking brake now)
Needs new clutch
Steering wheel squeeks now. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

Anybody have any ideas for free/cheap mods to increase HP and/or longetivity?

I'm thinking !CAT... my current cat is stock with 120K miles.
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#43628 - 11/25/02 04:17 PM Re: Cheap/Free mods for 87 4runner 22RE w/5speed??
John Smith Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Registered: 12/27/99
Posts: 1056
Loc: Silver Spring, MD, USA
Throw a can of BG44k in the fuel tank to clean up your intake. You should be able to find a can for around $20.

Have you done your timing chain yet? It is due. It is not a small job but is relatively cheap if you do it yourself.

The clutch is not complex but it is a PITA unless you have a body lift and tranny jack.

I know most of these are not performance mods but they will keep your truck living longer. Short of a blower or turbo you are not going to add too much performance to this engine with low buck mods.

<small>[ November 25, 2002, 10:19 AM: Message edited by: John Smith ]</small>
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87 StdCab w/22R TLCA# 9074
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#43629 - 11/25/02 05:10 PM Re: Cheap/Free mods for 87 4runner 22RE w/5speed??
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I have not done timing chain just yet.. but from what I read i'll be doing it soon.. Do I just replace the timing chain and be done with it? Do I have to adjust timing for the engine at all with a timing gun?

For the clutch.. I can lift the truck with a fork lift... and don't have a tranny jack.. I might just try and live with it for the winter. It only slips sometimes in 4'th gear on LONG trips. So its going out, just not sure when.

I will definately do the fuel tank additive. Thanks!!!

I'm all about longetivity and increasing life with this truck. I love it!! Its got 118K miles on it now and I would be VERY pleased to get 200K+ out of it. I couldn't be happier with any other truck.
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#43630 - 11/26/02 06:25 AM Re: Cheap/Free mods for 87 4runner 22RE w/5speed??
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Hey Magnus,

I've got a ton of low-buck mod ideas... swaybar disconnect, low-profile bumpstops, (DON'T crank your t-bars or get thicker ones, if you plan to wheel), 1" body lift, soft top (for summer), rust prevention/inspection...

Are you near Chicago? So am I, drop me an email at toyota.4x4@att.net, and we'll get together. If you're interested, a few Toyotas are exploring Forest Roads in SW Michigan this Saturday. Basically pre-scouting for challenges next summer, so this trip will be moderate wheeling: we plan to cover alot of ground.

Later,
Kenton

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Magnus:
<strong>I have not done timing chain just yet.. but from what I read i'll be doing it soon.. Do I just replace the timing chain and be done with it? Do I have to adjust timing for the engine at all with a timing gun?

For the clutch.. I can lift the truck with a fork lift... and don't have a tranny jack.. I might just try and live with it for the winter. It only slips sometimes in 4'th gear on LONG trips. So its going out, just not sure when.

I will definately do the fuel tank additive. Thanks!!!

I'm all about longetivity and increasing life with this truck. I love it!! Its got 118K miles on it now and I would be VERY pleased to get 200K+ out of it. I couldn't be happier with any other truck.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">
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#43631 - 11/25/02 08:53 PM Re: Cheap/Free mods for 87 4runner 22RE w/5speed??
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Hi Kenton, I will drop you an e-mail.. saturday sounds like fun.. I'd also like to bounce some questions off of people.

I already cut off the endlinks on the front sway bar. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

I'm not sure if my truck can handle moderate wheeling. I need to buy a spare tire and my clutch slips when I've driven the truck for 2+ hours.
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#43632 - 11/26/02 04:05 AM Re: Cheap/Free mods for 87 4runner 22RE w/5speed??
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do any exhaust mods you can afford. K&N air filter, cut a hole in the airbox, get a high flow catalytic converter and muffler, then a header.
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#43633 - 11/26/02 04:34 PM Re: Cheap/Free mods for 87 4runner 22RE w/5speed??
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No problem. Drop me an email after the holidays, and we'll get together!

In response to Churnd: in my experience the airflow isn't the big restriction; after you've done other things like put on headers, opened up the exhaust (collector, cat, pipe, muffler) a little (no more than 2-2 1/4"), increased lift/duration with a lumpy cam, and/or bored/smoothed the throttle body then it might be worth doing the air intake better. Until then, I think a K&N is an expensive hassle with little/no improvement, and cutting a hole causes more dirt and water to get to the engine, which shortens its lifetime.

I think the best improvement for air intake is to alter the box for a broad opening as high and cool as possible with large-area, STANDARD autoparts-store stocked, air filter, and put a sticker on the box stating what filter it uses. Unfortunately I haven't seen anyone make the modification that I'm satisfied with (cheap, easy, effective), except a snorkel, which I don't like (too gaudy).

Kenton

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by Magnus:
<strong>Hi Kenton, I will drop you an e-mail.. saturday sounds like fun.. I'd also like to bounce some questions off of people.

I already cut off the endlinks on the front sway bar. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

I'm not sure if my truck can handle moderate wheeling. I need to buy a spare tire and my clutch slips when I've driven the truck for 2+ hours.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">
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#43634 - 11/26/02 04:51 PM Re: Cheap/Free mods for 87 4runner 22RE w/5speed??
Anonymous
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On the intake note... After doing a larger AFM, cone K&N, different rubber couplings and larger x-over pipe it has made a decent difference. Enough to feel? Im not sure, I did notice a difference doing the larger afm, and cone filter, as those we done at the same time. Doing the larger x-over pipe was noticable in terms of top speed on the freeway, not seat of the pants. Scrounging pick-n-pulls, you can do the intake for under 65 bucks, so its hard to go wrong. also, Im not sure if youd notice any difference without a cam or header.. And right now, its still a stock t-body, soon to be bored 4mm over.
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#43635 - 11/26/02 05:16 PM Re: Cheap/Free mods for 87 4runner 22RE w/5speed??
dknight Offline
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Registered: 02/20/00
Posts: 456
Loc: NY
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by kenton:
[QB] Unfortunately I haven't seen anyone make the modification that I'm satisfied with (cheap, easy, effective), except a snorkel, which I don't like (too gaudy).</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">gaudy??? A snorkel is cheap insurance. It saved my engine twice now - money well spent. It does attract more attention than I'd like ('cept for the cuties) but I think it is worth it. It won't help with adding power though.

I agree with your other comments regaring 22re intake, 'cept I prefer to use toyota filters.

I wonder if insulating the *long* air intake under the hood might give some cheap easy gains. I don't understand why the Toyota engineers decided to run the air intake above the radiator. Seems silly, but, perhaps the air moves fast enough not to heat up much....?
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#43636 - 11/27/02 06:29 AM Re: Cheap/Free mods for 87 4runner 22RE w/5speed??
Anonymous
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by dknight:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">Originally posted by kenton:
[QB] Unfortunately I haven't seen anyone make the modification that I'm satisfied with (cheap, easy, effective), except a snorkel, which I don't like (too gaudy).</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">gaudy??? A snorkel is cheap insurance. It saved my engine twice now - money well spent. It does attract more attention than I'd like ('cept for the cuties) but I think it is worth it. It won't help with adding power though.

I agree with your other comments regaring 22re intake, 'cept I prefer to use toyota filters.

I wonder if insulating the *long* air intake under the hood might give some cheap easy gains. I don't understand why the Toyota engineers decided to run the air intake above the radiator. Seems silly, but, perhaps the air moves fast enough not to heat up much....?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Helv, Helvetica, Sans">For ME, it is too gaudy, and it isn't insurance because the odds of me hydro-locking my engine are very low.

It does help with adding (a slight amount of) power, by the way. Cooler (more dense) air. Hood scoops on sports cars are 99% show, but that one percent is real.

Toyota filters are only re-badged generic filters (oil, air, everything). Possibly top-shelf generic filters, but generic nonetheless.

I agree going over the hot radiator may cause a slight drop in performance, however I can't see an easy (underhood) fix. Even trading AFM and battery places may not give enough room.
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